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  • posted a message on [POLL] What cards do you want banned or unbanned in the January 21, 2019, announcement?
    Little late there, dude.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on "What Deck Should I Play" thread
    Yeah, I'm not really a fan of just dumping dudes and turning them sideways.. That's why I really loved that KCI was actually viable, and then a clear contender, and then defacto top deck. I'm just trying to get over it being gone by finding something similar to cling to.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    I mean, technically it's the truth. The restriction is to lands, which make up a third of your deck, and Artifacts, the most broken card type, oh and certain Planeswalkers that you definitely shouldn't be able to cast on T3. You can't run Stirrings in a Green Stompy list, but technically Ponder/Preordain could be used in any deck that ran Blue.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on B&R Update: Ironworks Banned, Hada Freeblade, Spatial Controtion, Circle of Flame banned in Pauper.
    That is an interesting proposition. How different would NeoKCI need to be to be acceptable? I imagine a 5 mana, colored non-artifact creature with the same ability would be different enough to not be broken. What if you made it an Artifact? What if you brought it down to 4 mana? What if you made it legendary? Put it in Boltable range?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
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    If the problem with KCI was only power-level, banning Scrap Trawler would have been the solution, if there even was a problem to begin with. KCI was not only being the best performing deck of the last year at premier events, but it took very long time (even in the hands of expert players) and was not attractive in live coverage (as if official Magic coverage was any appealing to begin with, at least when there is game action it shouldn't be dreadful). I just hope KCI players don't start playing Lantern, because that's actually a miserable deck no matter what you play.

    Regarding Forsythe opinion on Stoneforge Mystic, his reasoning for not unbanning it is as silly as if they banned it in Legacy to stop Miracles.


    Are you sure you're not thinking of Eggs? KCI was not really that slow of a deck, especially in experienced hands.

    An experienced player knows the infinite loops of the deck and that could save you a lot of time... once you got there. But with combo decks there are many games in which you are forced to go off without knowing beforehand if you'll succeed, but it's that or losing next turn, and those turns can take long. KCI goes faster than original Eggs, but still slower than Storm.


    That's fine, but I don't think anyone has ever claimed that Storm causes Tournament logistics. Saying KCI is slower than Storm but faster than Eggs is describing legit 99.99% of every Modern deck ever. I'm not claiming KCI players get to grab food between each round, I'm just saying I don't think the deck was causing tournament-level logistic issues.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
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    If the problem with KCI was only power-level, banning Scrap Trawler would have been the solution, if there even was a problem to begin with. KCI was not only being the best performing deck of the last year at premier events, but it took very long time (even in the hands of expert players) and was not attractive in live coverage (as if official Magic coverage was any appealing to begin with, at least when there is game action it shouldn't be dreadful). I just hope KCI players don't start playing Lantern, because that's actually a miserable deck no matter what you play.

    Regarding Forsythe opinion on Stoneforge Mystic, his reasoning for not unbanning it is as silly as if they banned it in Legacy to stop Miracles.


    Are you sure you're not thinking of Eggs? KCI was not really that slow of a deck, especially in experienced hands.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    Someone else said it already, but not a whole lot has actually changed in the last year-year and a half. We basically go back to that point, with ships-in-the-night combo/aggro decks fighting with Control hanging on by its fingernails to try to combat the speed of the format. Mid-range falls behind with nothing to really grind out, as I can't see Control getting a larger share of the meta. Death's Shadow probably continues to operate as the new aggro/mid-range option of choice, as we were seeing in recent months. We probably see Stony Silence usage drop, as KCI was the bogeyman, and newer Hardened Scales Affinity is more resilient to it, as well as being solidly Green and being able to run side Claims. Grave hate probably takes over Artifact hate as the necessity of sideboards, to hate out Dredge, Phoenix, and hamper DS decks, and I could see UW Control continuing to mainboard RIP at the cost of Snaps and less reliance on Azcanta.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
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    Plenty of tweets dunking on Wizards logic with SFM, but I still see people saying its too good. I dont get it, at all.

    So I read this tweet as "Not right now" and that is positive enough. Meta will change and that point will no longer hold water at some point. I am not overly distraught by that tweet.


    The problem with the tweet is that it shows a lack of understanding of how these top tier decks operate. UW and Jeskai Control do not have the option to run SFM etc., and to claim that UWx's success prohibits SFM from being considered for unbanning is either intentionally misleading to mask some other data that prohibits SFM, or spring woefully uninformed preconceptions of those decks.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    Yeah, I would absolutely love to get a "meet the team" with the B&R Committee, but I feel that would just give the grumbling masses faces and excuses to berate them for not checking off their wishlists. I'm just curious as to how much of each format the members actually play, and how much of these decisions are just cold hard numbers. It's really hard to justify unbannings if you're never actually playtesting with said cards.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    Oh hey didn't see that Aaron actually Tweeted about that. Yeah that's not a great sign.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    I can sort of understand the thought process of killing the deck, even though I played and enjoyed it. If they hit Wellspring, which I've gone on record suggesting and will continue to stand by as being the more elegant solution, there would have been an off chance that the deck simply slotted in Prophetic Prism, or some other net-0 draw a card Artifact, and still retained the level of success it is currently seeing. Then they'd look mighty foolish and be forced to either kill the deck in two months' time or do an emergency banning to save face. Neither way is good from a confidence standpoint. This way, sure, they kill off what I thought was a really cool and intricate maneuvering of what makes Magic a great game, the complex rules, but they are totally justified in that decision. Everything we've been seeing was pointing towards something needing to be done, and this way they can't be explicitly proven they made the wrong choice. I'm fairly certain Wellspring would have dampened the deck's ability to dig for its pieces and go off so consistently, but it's not my job to convince them otherwise (take a note, Twin apologists). I don't even know if they ever entertained the possibility of touching Wellspring (if someone who Aaron listens to could ask him, I'd really like to know the answer), but it's entirely likely they only considered the three cards they mentioned, which honestly is fine, even if it kind of indicates no one in the Committee was a practiced pilot of the deck.

    The tweets about UWr not playing SFM are good to see; hopefully there's the same level of learning from the community, and we get to see the wrongly imprisoned Kor free once more.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)
    Could we update the first post to include today's article, which I believe is the most thorough announcement we've ever received?
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on [Primer] Amulet Titan
    Hey, guys, I've been trying to pick up the deck in the last few weeks in preparation for the KCI ban (rest in peace), and it's been taking me a while to feel like I'm getting better with it. Is it bad to be goldfishing with the deck? I feel like I need to get better at recognizing what is keepable, and this deck is very different from most other Modern decks, so I'm having trouble with that. Also, is there a better-splash people have been using? I've been testing the Daryl Ayers deck from the SCG Team Open (https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=20904&d=338394&f=MO) but I saw some people playing with a black splash for Trophy. What are people thinking?
    Posted in: Big Mana
  • posted a message on [Primer] Ironworks Combo
    Yea I don't see this continuing here, best option is Eggs, using Faith's Reward and Open the Vaults. It's been a wild ride, thanks for the fun, KCI. Sleep well, next to my Gitaxian Probes and Delvers.
    Posted in: Modern Archives - Proven
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
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    Nice to see that they addressed community concerns about stirrings by painting it in a positive light (while also mentioning that they'll keep an eye on it). Can't say fairer than that.

    Also, as an owner and player of KCI. thank goodness. I'm freeeeeeeee


    Lol was I the only person who honestly enjoyed playing the deck? I've heard other people say they were just playing it because it was that good, haven't really seemed to be many actual fans of KCI, other than myself.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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