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  • posted a message on Citywide Bust (First Strike Podcast preview)
    "I'll bust your board." I love this card's name. It'd be cool if this is a good enough conditional sweeper to make it into some decks. Pretty sure it's just worse than Bontu's Last Reckoning for Ad Nauseum, but we'll see.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Boros Mythic (in Japanese)
    Quote from Yatsufusa »

    Also, extra turns have been mythic effects ever since Time Warp got promoted to Mythic. So no surprises there.


    *Cough* Karn's Temporal Sundering *cough*
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [GRN] Guilds of Ravnica previews and spoilers: Modern edition
    Glorious End arguably is a stronger effect than "take an extra turn" and it doesn't see play in Ad Nauseam.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Mothership Spoilers 9-13
    Quote from xaltair »
    It's a control player's wet dream in a two color deck, I wouldn't think of playing it in a 3 color build. This is a good mid to late game card and can shine if the deck plays some serious instants or sorceries.
    Also it's the second card in this set that lets you play a sorcery at instant speed.


    Cast a sorcery at instant speed? Briefing only allows you to cast the card this turn. It doesn't have you cast the card as part of it's resolution, and it doesn't specify you can cast it at instant speed, so I'm pretty sure it doesn't let you cheat on speeds.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/08/2018)
    My gut intinct is that GSZ is a smidge too powerful. Haven't done any testing, but I keep having visions of how much the card helps decks like Legacy Elves. Not saying the same would happen in Modern, but it would be pretty easy to find a way to break the card, I think. Happy to be convinced I'm wrong, I think a shorter banlist is an admirable goal, I just think GSZ isn't quite an easy unban.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Doom Whisperer and more Cool stuff inc previews
    Have people been testing this in some sort of a Modern Grixis control sideboard? I just get a Baneslayer parallel-vibe from this thing.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [GRN] Guilds of Ravnica previews and spoilers: Modern edition
    I still think Grixis Shadow is going be the most obvious shell people try slotting Secrets into. Having 4x Street Wraith helps a lot.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/08/2018)
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    Quote from 13055 »
    But please feel free to respond with a bunch of capital words again.

    Looking at your signature, just imagine if Slippery Bogle and Simian Spirit Guide were banned because they were supplanting all these similar decks that don't exist (and still didn't exist after the ban). Your decks technically still exist, but are more or less unplayable trash with no meaningful notoriety for 2+ years. Then some other random cards get printed to build up other completely different decks that use less than 10% crossover cards, and everyone tells you that you should like that and shut up about losing your old deck because it's not coming back.


    I mean you can try talking personally to me, but I'm a blatant bandwagon hopper. My signature isn't even up to date, I've been trying out Humans and KCI recently. This is the problem, I've constantly seen Twin supporters jumping between the objective arguments of unjust bannings and inability to do what they said they were trying to do, and emotional arguments of feeling personally attacked by the bans, and belittling comparisons to other banned decks.

    In response to your scenarios, I've been wary about SSG for years. It's just waiting for the Ad Nauseam-style combo deck that's a notch or two above Ad Naus itself, and then it'll get banned. I'm enjoying the Tier 2 combo deck while it's still around, and when SSG is banned, I'll shrug and find another atypical combo deck that I enjoy piloting.

    I'd be more upset about a Bogles ban, just because it was a pet deck at a low-point in my life and I've foiled it out as an homage to how it got me through some difficulties, but because of that I'd probably just shrug, find some foil Breeding Pools and throw Invisible Stalkers in. I don't play Bogles to grind, I play it to enjoy myself.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/08/2018)
    Quote from cfusionpm »


    As far as fixing an unjust ban, Wild Nacatl had EXACTLY THAT HAPPEN. Because that ban was ALSO A FAILURE.


    Sorry, do we get extra internet points for typing in all caps or something?

    At the time Wild Nacatl was banned, we hoped that this would allow room for other aggressive decks to shine. Artifact-based aggressive strategies have remained popular and a few other aggressive decks have emerged, but the Zoo decks eventually disappeared as a result of the ban and nothing else emerged as a viable traditional aggressive deck. We expect that with the return of Wild Nacatl, those decks will return as a viable option.

    Where does it say they failed? They listed the intended effect of the ban being "allow room for other aggressive decks to shine." They then state that Artifact-aggro decks remained popular and a few other aggressive decks emerged. That sounds like they succeeded. Zoo suffered (as expected) but to a larger degree than they anticipated, so it was unbanned. Nowhere in the unban announcement do they state any failures.

    But please feel free to respond with a bunch of capital words again.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/08/2018)
    It makes me happy to see Martyr Proc. : )
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/08/2018)
    Quote from idSurge »
    [quote from="ktkenshinx »" url="/forums/the-game/modern/797415-the-state-of-modern-thread-b-r-20-08-2018?comment=987"]
    THERE ISNT ONE. Just like there wasnt one for Grave Troll, because Dredge is just one more stupid deck out of all of the stupid decks of which Twin was once a part but for some god forsaken reason Wizards decided that Dredge got to live on, while Twin had to die. Amulet lives on, while Twin had to die.

    If ban's actually killed other decks, those people would probably care too!


    I've tried to avoid all this Twin talk, but I think Twin proponents are just living in this fantasy world where the "injustices" done to them are somehow greater than those of other decks' pilots whose decks were also hit with bans.

    You brought up Amulet, saying it "lives on." The deck has been much less powerful than it was with Summer Bloom. It was not a widely-used deck at the time of its banning, though, so people ignore that. In Dredge's case, GGT's initial ban was warranted, I think everyone agrees. When it was unbanned, it was because the archetype had suffered, and the meta was in a spot where the archetype could use a booster shot, and it wasn't until after new Dredge pieces were printed that the card was, again, rightfully banned. There weren't mistakes, the Modern pool of available cards is just always shifting, and bans need to be fluid to allow for that.

    Now, onto Twin. Everyone keeps saying Twin is "dead". When anyone dares to mention that Kiki-Exarch is a deck, the Twin supporters vehemently say it's not the same deck, that a 5 mana creature is not the same as a 4 mana enchantment that does the same thing, that it isn't close to as effective as Twin was. Guess what? You're right. In the same way that Amulet Titan is "not the same" as Bloom Titan, decks that use some form of Exarch/Kiki combo to win are "not the same" as Twin. Twin was ultra efficient and minimally deck-constraining. To expect something that powerful is foolish.

    Do you really think that Eggs is the same deck as KCI? Because it isn't. People had to get by with their sub-par version of Eggs before Scrap Trawler's printing, but I'm sure if any Eggs players were to voice complaints in this time, Twin players would adamantly claim their loss was bigger.

    TLDR; Twin has its parallels in the Modern pantheon of decks today, and Twin proponents for some reason think they are owed more than other deck pilots who have similarly lost decks.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Twitch spoilers - Ledev Guardian, Puston-Fist Cyclops, Parhelion Patrol
    Yea I was about to say, that is a pretty easy win condition for legacy dredge
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/08/2018)
    How are people feeling about Assassin's Trophy? Thoughts on how it will shake things up? I'm thinking GB becomes the better Jund, as to my knowledge the ability to hit any kind of walker with New Decay means there isn't as much reason to run red (Bolts). Also, GB was already gaining traction as people discover just how good Tireless Tracker is, while 2 color manabases make Field of Ruin easier to run. Will Abzan see an uptick, as well? I used to enjoy Jund a few years ago, it'd be cool to try out again with all these new (old) tools it's gotten recently.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Mothership 9/14 - Trostani, and others
    Quote from Schutzwald »
    Quote from theMarc »
    Literally nothing about Trostani's new card makes me think "discordant". Where is that name coming from?

    Maybe it means like the three arent agreeing on stuff? They dont look particularly harmonious in the art. Might be they are fighting about what they should do in this time of ravnican politics and threats? Or maybe bolas is fiddling with thier minds


    Yea MaRo has said that each guild is struggling with the influence of Bolas, I guess Trostani is having some doubts as to whether to openly help the rest of Ravnica, as Emmara seems to want, or shut themselves out to protect their own. I expect the name will make more sense when we finally start getting story.

    Her last line seems to kind of be supporting the "defend our own" option; Ravnica is getting dangerous, so they call back their own people. I'm reminded of a mother calling in her children when a storm is coming.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Creeping Chill - SCG Twitter
    Dang, I wanted this to not exile so I could finally have a better win-con than Seismic Assault for my Modern Gitrog brew. Infinite dredging Dakmor Salvage and milling my library with an original Eldrazi Titan and one of these. That would have been fun
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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