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  • posted a message on Jund
    So, if I freed up a slot by cutting 1x Ancient Grudge, and if I freed up another by cutting Damnation (I just really haven’t seemed to need it), I’d end up with this:



    Had a tough time against a few different Control decks today, as I feared I would. My 75 (especially my 15) is pretty soft to it. So I’d like to use these two new slots to mitigate that weakness a little.

    I could add:
    2x Tireless Tracker

    Or:
    1x Tireless Tracker
    1x Fulminator Mage

    Or:
    1x Fulminator Mage
    1x Choke

    I know there’s a bunch of other options also. What do y’all think? I will say that I like that another Fulminator can help with the Big Mana MU’s too.

    Ayiluss, how have you liked that Chandra? I’ve never run one, but she seems like she could be a sweet addition.

    I have to say that I liked her quite a bit so far. She provides CA which matters against decks you bring her in and also acts as a removal against midrange decks. I wanted a card that has utility against midrange and control and Chandra seemed like a nice addition there. So far she hasn't disappointed me.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    I think that if you play 7 three drops and 4 BBE you can still go away with 24 lands if the rest of the deck has lower mana curve (more one drops) and play only 3 manlands which you should anyway if you play 24 lands. However 8 three drops plus 4 BBE seems very greedy to me. For 24 lands build I think 7 is the maximum number of three drops you can play.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    What do you guys think about Ancient Grudge? I saw plenty of lists without it and after some thinking I came to the conclusion that it's not very good right now. There's no (standard) Affinity, Hardened Scales Affinity and Lantern which makes Ancient Grudge a lot worse (since these are decks Grudge is the best Against) but I'm not sure about that.

    In case I cut Ancient Grudge what could I bring in instead of it?

    Here's my sb for reference:



    Side note: I play 1x Nihil Spellbomb in the md (that's why only 1 in the sb).
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Abzan
    Quote from jubeininja69 »
    How come recent abzan decks have moved away from dark confidant?

    I think people give Dark Confidant to little credit in Abzan. It's mainly because it's worse in Abzan than in Jund but he's still good. turn 1 discard into turn 2 Dark Confidant is one of the best lines you can make with this decks unless you play against Burn or some other hyper aggressive deck.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Mardu Pyromancer
    Quote from mikemikemike »
    I tried Nahiri a little bit this afternoon online and she seems a bit useless in some matchup
    As Ltlh is also sometimes useless
    Is mardu pyro really a deck for pw?

    I've never been a fan of PW in Mardu Pyromancer tbh. To me it seems like they don't synergy with the rest of the deck very well but you can play some of them. If you choose to Liliana, the Last Hope is the best option in my opinion.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Mardu Pyromancer
    I think Nahhiri is a fine option. I prefer LtLH but Nahiri has some nice options available too but I feel she's a little slow for what she does.

    Beside Tron Damping Sphere is also good against KCI and Storm so if you face these enough you can play it. I'm not a fan of Damping Sphere in Mardu Pyromancer though as you tend to cast more multiple spells per turn so it hurts you as well. As for Tron it's not worth to play it just because of that matchup because it's very bad in either case, with or without Damping Sphere.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    Bob seems good against decks meta is shifting to indeed. We can expect more mana and combo decks to fight Dredge and Bob is good here because he can help us to find more interaction. I went back to 4 Bob and 3 BBE, similar as Jadine did (I'm testing her md now). I agree with that Bob isn't that bad against aggro decks as well. He's not great and you don't want to draw more than one against these but that one is still fine. He can draw some cards (hopefully more removal) and then you just chump block with him before your life goes too low.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Mardu Pyromancer
    Dredge is indeed a very tough matchup and so is Tron.

    I'm personally not a fan of basic plains because it can be awkward if you draw it (instead of a red land) when you need double red. I know you can hardcast Lingering Souls under Blood Moon but have enough cards to discard it if you have Blood Moon and the flashback it. I don't like Risk Factor in grindy decks because your opponent can easily take damage unless he's on very low life and in this case you didn't do much. Other than that I like your list.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Abzan
    I personally still like 4x Fatal Push because you need enough one mana removal against creature decks. You can still add Decay and Pulse and Trophy of course to diversify your removal to play around Meddling Mage.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    We got new article from Jadine: http://www.starcitygames.com/articles/37909_Jund-Is-Finally-Good-Again.html. Unfortunately I don't have premium so I can't read it but have a nice read for those who can.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    I'm thinking about going back to Spellbomb/Surgical too. Leyline is good against Dredge but overall Spellbomb and Surgical are more flexible and better in Jund. I'm not fan of Grafdigger's Cage against Dredge though because it doesn't exile their gy. They just need to wait until they draw removal for it and then start doing their thing with full gy by that time.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    Quote from FlyingDelver »
    Quote from Ayiluss »
    I agree with not shaving all Bobs but in Jund I agree with FlyingDelver in that things are a little different comparing to Rock. With mana base being more painful in Jund I think it's fine to play 3. I'm leaning more towards 3 tbh due to the number of aggro decks in Modern. Against other decks you want 4 but against aggro you don't want to draw more than 1. If you play all 4 then it's more likely to draw a second one which is almost always bad if you play against fast aggressive deck where your life total matters. With this in minds I'll stick with 3 for now.

    Concerning Rock I think Tracker is better there and you probably should play it but Bob is also good. Bob being bad and that you shouldn't play him because of that is something I've ever agree with Hoogland. Tracker's version is fine but saying Bob is bad makes no sense to me. Bob is good against any deck where your life doesn't matter which means against everything except aggro but even there you can afford to draw a few cards and then chump block with him. I like Sol Malka's list with a few exceptions.

    There isone thing though I don't get considering Sol Malka's list (not just Rock but regarding all GBx decks) and this is Thrun. I don't think Thrun is a good card right now. I wouldn't play it in 75 at all. I'm very surprised he plays it, so much more to see it in the md.





    The thing is though that it would suggest that there is a "Tracker version" and a "bob version" in Rock. However, I think whether to run or not to run Tracker in Rock is pretty much off the table, I think its an auto include. Its just Rocks BBE. So the question is to replace Bob with Tasigur actually, it has hardly anything to do with Tracker. Hoogland pretty much plays Tasigurs and some extra spells in place of Bob. And I think that is the wrong part.

    That's true. He suggests playing Tracker instead of Bob but as you said you actually play Tracker instead of BBE, not instead of Bob. Tasigur didn't feel that good when I tested Hoogland's version but that said I don't like delve and other higher cmc creatures in classic midrange decks because they feel too clunky to me.

    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    I agree with not shaving all Bobs but in Jund I agree with FlyingDelver in that things are a little different comparing to Rock. With mana base being more painful in Jund I think it's fine to play 3. I'm leaning more towards 3 tbh due to the number of aggro decks in Modern. Against other decks you want 4 but against aggro you don't want to draw more than 1. If you play all 4 then it's more likely to draw a second one which is almost always bad if you play against fast aggressive deck where your life total matters. With this in minds I'll stick with 3 for now.

    Concerning Rock I think Tracker is better there and you probably should play it but Bob is also good. Bob being bad and that you shouldn't play him because of that is something I've ever agree with Hoogland. Tracker's version is fine but saying Bob is bad makes no sense to me. Bob is good against any deck where your life doesn't matter which means against everything except aggro but even there you can afford to draw a few cards and then chump block with him. I like Sol Malka's list with a few exceptions.

    There isone thing though I don't get considering Sol Malka's list (not just Rock but regarding all GBx decks) and this is Thrun. I don't think Thrun is a good card right now. I wouldn't play it in 75 at all. I'm very surprised he plays it, so much more to see it in the md.



    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Abzan
    Quote from kysg »
    Quote from Ayiluss »

    Don't want to sound rude but this isn't threat for the budget version of a deck. You should look at the budget forum. Hopefully you find there what you're looking for.


    Actually I would appreciate it if you found something better to do. Hopefully you just kinda go away.

    I don't know why you are so harsh know but your deck doesn't fit into this threat. You should rid the threat before posting. This is threat for competitive Abzan not a budget version and this isn't competitive version and as SmauG said it's not even Abzan midrange but more like Abzan Liege which is different deck.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    Quote from chaos021 »
    For those of you who have played 25-land builds, do you cut a land our any amount of Dark Confidant against Humans?

    I usually don't but you can cut one land when you're on the draw and bring him back when you're on the play. This is in the case if you play 3x Dark Confidant which I assume you do. If you play all 4 then it's even easier to cut him and in this case I would board him out even when on the play since you don't want to draw more than one against (faster) aggro decks like Humans and similar. I think drawing one is still fine though as you can draw a few cards with him and then chump block but I don't want more than one. 3 copies fits this the most.
    Posted in: Midrange
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