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  • posted a message on Mafia Hosting Sign-Ups & Hosting Rules
    Oh, I forgot to update this; Playstation Battle Royale ended in a Mafia victory.

    Tubba Fett, Fuwa, and D_V were replaced; Ganderin_Dan voluntarily replaced out due to outside factors in another game influencing his alignment knowledge of another player. Kpaca and Lastwhisper were modkilled.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Banned Mafia - SIGNUPS CLOSED! Still accepting replacements ;)
    Gosh darn it to want to play in this. Bah, stupid life being in my way.

    Playerbase looks pretty great.
    Posted in: Old Sign-ups
  • posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    I would also be interested.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    Quote from 864 »
    A modkill for the beeboy slot, while on the table, is trying to be avoided at all costs. It will come no later than start of Day 2.

    Quote from D_V »
    Stop saying modkill on the slot was imminent. From a player perspective it appeared that he was going to be replaced again. Go read the thread instead of just looking at the VC and saying he got lynched.
    It *was* imminent. Not when you replaced out, no, it wasn't, but when he was lynched? It absolutely was. The game as a whole hard lynched him from 3 votes after we said we would modkill him at the start of Day 2 at the latest. There was a conscious choice on the part of every single player in that game to not try to derail the wagon and either allow a potential replacement to post for the slot or allow the modkill to happen.


    First I want to say that I don't agree with how DV is handling the situation. It is unnecessarily hostile, but his arguments are good.

    These two quotes are complete opposites. Greater or equal to is not the same as lower or equal to.

    Also I want people replaced if they don't respond to their first prod in 24 hours. 6 days for force replacements is absurd. Considering 2 weeks deadline a slot could post 3 post and still be in the game by day 3. That is absolutely not ok.
    "A modkill...will come no later than start of day 2"

    Literally the slot was not going to be in day 2. That is the definition of "imminent" from that stage in the game.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    Quote from D_V »
    And Eco saying that he doesn't agree with me on that but providing no reasons is my point. Its just insulting to the players. You don't value or time or effort and he's right I won't play in a game of his again, because he truthfully doesn't care about the players.
    Full stop, this kind of statement is unacceptable. You have whatever gripe you want about what went down, but flat out saying that Eco, who has demonstrated on countless occasions commitment to this playerbase, doesn't care about players is wrong, and betrays a bitter mindset. There is obviously discussion to be had, but you lose any high ground or indeed any ground to stand on with this line of thinking. You don't have to like Eco, or anyone, but you do not get to come in here and attack anyone like that when it's so clearly untrue.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    @DV: I was primarily speaking to Vez's most recent posts and Osie's agreement; but yeah, it sucks with how thing happened. Specifically my game, saying we benefitted from someone exploiting the lurking/VLA policy is basically the opposite of what happened; as far as I am concerned, Nancy's actions (regardless of reason or legitimacy) ruined my game and wrecked what should have been a winnable game. I'm not happy that she didn't post, I'm not thrilled she wasn't replaced, but I can follow the logic of how it got there with reasonable moderating. Would I have made the same decisions? I don't know. But I don't think anyone here is saying "this behavior is okay," so much as saying, "the circumstances here were not cut and dry and we made the calls we made for a reason." Maybe that's me giving too much credit, maybe I'm giving too much benefit of the doubt; but I fundamentally think the mods of this event had the collective best interests of the players in mind. Even (for the sake of argument) granting the premise that there were bad moderation done on the whole, I don't think it's fair to attribute any of it to malice.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    I’m just gonna throw this out here, modkills should be a rare last resort solution. Lurking sucks, but it’s our job as players to deal with it when it falls within the rules. Should the rules be more stringent? Maybe. But they weren’t, and they were pretty standard fare for mtgs games. Day 1 should virtually never have a modkill of any slot; exceptions being game breaking play or something similar that damages the slot and requires it to be removed.

    Continuing to insist that modkills should be more prevalent will ultimately lead to games that aren’t fun and don’t actually count as Mafia. I call bull crap on the idea that you guys are okay with a day one LyLo, and if you truly prefer that, I’m thankful that you seem to be in the minority, because that doesn’t sound fun and would deincentivize joining games here. Game health does matter, it directly impacts how fun a game is.

    I don’t agree that everything done by the mods was done to perfection, but Silver and eco have adequately hilighted the shortcomings; they are aware of mistakes made and timing that could have been better.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Not much you can do about scum seeing an opportunity for towncred and yoinking it.

    Only way to double check is to see if your other townreads hold up.
    And ask yourself (yourself, not publicly where it’s bound to get WIFOM’d) “why is the hard cleared person still alive?” Sometimes it’s for the wifom, but always got to check.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    To specifically speak to the modkills, Regardless of what Nancy did or anything surrounding that situation, Gemma bringing it up and referencing games from another site as a way to generate a read is wildly not okay from a game integrity standpoint, and certainly warranted action. I can understand where it comes from; basically breaking the game wide open certainly had to be exciting, but it should be apparent that using that really isn’t how this game is designed to be played.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    Of course the game that I actually plan to go down first is the game that I live to F4. GG everyone, but frustrated with my game, but I obviously could have played better.

    Hilariously, I anticipated the likelihood of getting tracked N1, so I roleblocked Dels (my own partner) only to end up killing the tracker.

    Having a bunch of personal stuff come up is a bummer and I think I let down my team(s) because of it.

    See you all next time (well, once I get things sorted)
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Signups: unreliable cops 2
    As much as I would love to, I just can’t justify playing right now.

    /spectate
    Posted in: Old Sign-ups
  • posted a message on Signups: unreliable cops 2
    Meteor and GJ?
    Wow.
    /tempted (thinking)
    Posted in: Old Sign-ups
  • posted a message on Team Mafia Game 1 - The Death of Stalin - Game Over
    Quote from sheepsaysmeep »
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    Seriously, he didn't even play this game.


    sry i forgot about this for a while in the middle
    Dont mind me, I just think you should have been lynched, and town disagreed with me.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia Game 1 - The Death of Stalin - Game Over
    Vote Shadow
    Yeah, I don't want to wait for sheep, or give him the satisfaction. Seriously, he didn't even play this game.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia Game 1 - The Death of Stalin - Game Over
    Dels wanted too and I thought he might have been a PR. Worst part? I roleblocked Dels because I expected to be tracked.
    Posted in: Mafia
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