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    posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Game Over Mafia Win
    Chats are useful if there are mechanics conversations you want to have away from the rest of the thread, but there's always the problem that you don't know how much to safely share with the other person and who to trust. Most behavior info should go to the thread, and that's most of the communication in any given game.

    There were some interesting tricks you could pull, but to make them really central to the gameplay, there need to be abilities that encourage use of that design space, despite the risks.

    I did enjoy them here, and the setup was fine. The town lost this based on our play, decisively.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Should We Stay or Should We Go
    Also, I think a necessary step before we leave would be to identify any and all past veterans who may drop back in, and send them all PMs so they know how to find us. That way, even if the sub is eventually closed and archived after our material is ported, we have continuity.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    Quote from Iso »
    Not sure why I'm still listed as a Mod for this sub, but Shrugs


    You're retired when we all say you're retired, damn it!
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Mafia Hosting Sign-Ups & Hosting Rules
    So, who wants to review/write PMs and help host an Azrael specialty?
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    Alright. Then let's declare the specialty queue officially restored. We'll need to edit the hosting threads, and soon as folks submit finished setups, we can populate and fire one.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    Iso's retirement from the council has left some big shoes to fill, and we're looking for folks who are interested in coming on board with some fresh energy and new ideas for directions to guide the sub going forward. If you're interested, let us know.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Game Over - Ghost Ship
    Quote from Rodemy »
    @dbs: i wish i had died early. It's not that i am not dependable, it's just i have a hard time actually focusing on what people say. I'm a little slow on the uptake, but i usually figurr out at least one scum. I just have trouble conveying why or convincing people why.

    I was right about d_v for most od the game. Figured out vezok too late and had a hell of a tunnel on tom.

    That being said, this game was stressful and confusing to me, but i tried. I really did.


    I actually really appreciated all the effort you put into figuring this out. That was really evident, and in a group full of people who were ready to give up, you were right in there, fighting it out. That was awesome.

    So don't pay any attention to DBS' bit about you needing to be lynched because people wouldn't listen to you. I violently disagree with that both in practice and in theory.

    That said, DBS had some really good points about what happened to her, here. THere was a point in time for both Iso and I, a while ago, where we would put pressure on people for the sake of seeing how they'd respond to it, on an emotional level. And in the goodness of time, we each reached a point in our development as players where we agreed that trying to stress people out crossed a line, and shouldn't be done going forward.

    I really want us to be welcoming community and a good place for people to come and make a mafia home. And if DBS is feeling that that's not what happened in this game, if we were actually making a big issue out of her being from somewhere else instead of welcoming, that's something we've really got to keep an eye on going forward. We've always been a community that welcomed people from all over the place to come here, and play, and make a home here. Being good to one another > being a good mafia player. Let's keep true to our roots on that.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on 2017 MTGS Mafia Awards - Winners Announced!
    Haven't played in a ton of games this year, but I'd give a nod to the town as a group in revolution mafia, which knocked off two scum on day one, and picked off #3 by day 3. Everyone covered well for one another's weaknesses, utilized both roles and behavior effectively and cooperatively, and closed it out nice and quick.

    I know Iso despised it, but I *loved* the lockhimup gif that Proph launched in Disinheritance. Proph was one of the games' "spec ops" roles. He had the ability to post in a publicly viewable "spectator" thread that the the public players could see, and he was assigned an alignment (town). As a townie spectator, he not only nailed the scum with extraordinary accuracy, but succeeded notably (such as with the lockhimup gif) in getting key members of the scum pressured and lynched, all without a vote of his own.

    Quote from Prophylaxis »
    Iso/Wildfire team.

    POWER WOLFING DETECTED



    He also went out in a fairly amusing fashion. One of the mafia's countermeasures to the information the town gained from having the spec ops guys was an ability called sudden death, which did this:


    All spec ops players have gained the ability to vote for one another. Whenever a spec ops players voters for another spec ops player in Sudden Death, votes more than once in the same post, double-posts, or votes more than once each hour, they will be eliminated from the game.

    These conditions will take effect immediately after a moderator arrives on scene and announces the initiation of sudden death, but the rules will not be publicly revealed until one half hour after the moderator announcement. Sudden death will continue until only a single spec ops player remains. The last non-voting spec ops player standing will enter the primary game with their current alignment, no abilities, and five empowerment.


    Proph, as the most active spectator, was a favorite to wind up entering the main game via this ability. Moments after sudden death began, he was watching the game like a hawk, picking his moment to strike. No one else online and active.

    Quote from Azrael »

    SUDDEN DEATH HAS BEEN ACTIVATED.

    Rules will be posted in exactly one half hour. In the meantime, Sudden Death is currently in effect.


    He'd been waiting to get into the main game. Working really hard. Things were looking good. His moment had come. All he had to do, was survive one half hour for the rules to be posted...

    Quote from Prophylaxis »

    Quote from Prophylaxis »
    Also appropriate:

    Quote from Azrael »
    Prophylaxis has been eliminated. He was town.


    ...but instead, was epicly dream-crushed. (For violating sudden death's double-posting rule before it was revealed.)

    From there, Megiddo went on to do this, over the course of three hours:


    Quote from Megiddo »
    Vote silvercrys

    sorry buddy but I want to play Smile
    Quote from Azrael »
    Silvercrys has been eliminated. He was town.
    Quote from Megiddo »
    Vote GHOSTING
    Quote from Azrael »
    Oh, right, ghosting was in this game too? Well, he's dead now. He was town.
    Quote from Megiddo »
    <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/QvBEgEoG13Y&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://www.youtube.com/v/QvBEgEoG13Y&quot; width="425" height="350" movie="http://www.youtube.com/v/QvBEgEoG13Y&quot; wmode="transparent"/>
    ^ me right now

    Vote Brinatoo

    @tom: i would not even be mad TBH

    @axel: why? I'm the only person left in here (RIP proph) who would even remotely participate in the thread.
    Quote from Azrael »
    Brinatoo has been killed. He was town.
    Quote from Megiddo »
    <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/e_DqV1xdf-Y&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://www.youtube.com/v/e_DqV1xdf-Y&quot; width="425" height="350" movie="http://www.youtube.com/v/e_DqV1xdf-Y&quot; wmode="transparent"/>

    VOTE VOXXICUS
    Quote from Azrael »
    Voxxicus has been killed. He was mafia. Megiddo has won sudden death and enters the primary game.


    And then there was this ability, probably my favorite role, ever:

    1-Quick Draw -
    During the day, you may activate Quick Draw, targeting yourself and another player. The moderator will choose a time to begin quick draw, within two hours of opening the Quick Draw PM. The rules of Quick Draw are that the first player to be voted for by the other player after a Quick Draw is declared by the mod and the rules of Quick Draw are publicly posted by the mod, will be daykilled. Only one Quick Draw may be activated per day.

    Every time it was activated, I was on the edge of my seat to see who would manage to race to get to the thread first. And it got used a TON, by the scum player who received it, before the town took him down. That reduced the town's mislynch threshold to a bare minimum. They had to lynch correctly four out of seven times to win. But, with solid town play, that's exactly what they did. Tom and DV led the town throughout and consistently identified scum, Proph had a huge impact on the game despite having no vote, and Axelrod's end-game analysis sealed the deal. Was a fantastic game to watch play out. Also a great example of smart townie ability management.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Revolution Mafia - sign-ups
    Quote from Ecophagy »
    Et Tu, Azrael?


    *Twists the knife deeper*

    /In
    Posted in: Old Sign-ups
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    posted a message on 2016 MTGS Mafia Invitational (Hearthstone Mafia) - Game Over
    Sure. But there are 12 slots in the game. 3 of them mafia. 9 of them town. 2/9 of the town slots were eliminated as lynch targets by mechanics - between 20-25%. Leaving only seven slots out of 12 for the mafia to paint as scum, minus X nightkills. I don't think taking away the masons would make it unfairly weighted in the scum's favor - more like give them a fighting chance. It's just far too easy to clear half or more of those remaining seven and then just POE cruise to a win, even if you can't just crack the scum team D1.

    @ Iso - No need to apologize for being good. Just keep right on doing that.
    Posted in: Mafia
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