What are Ponza's main problems? I live in a VERY small Magic Community with Tournaments of no more than 6 people. I've had to go up against MUC, Tooth and Nail, Mono-Black Death Cloud/Control, U/G Control and White Weenie. I reallly don't know Ponza's weaknesses against any other decks.
Other:
4x Molten Rain
4x Stone Rain
4x Magma Jet
4x Seething Song
3x Pulse of the Forge
3x Pyroclasm
2x Demolish
Lands/Mana:
17x Mountain
3x Chrome Mox
2x Blinkmoth Nexus
Sideboard (So far):
3x Sowing Salt
3x Defense Grid
3x Shatter
3x Volcanic Hammer
2x Culling Scales
1x Zo-Zu (An Odd-Ball 1 in the SB, but I don't know what else to add?)
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Is it a solid decklist for Regionals? What about the SB? Any help is appreciated.
It plays like a stax deck with 5 trinispheres in the form of nether void, and better hand denial. ancient tombs and moxes is good enough acceleration.
*smack* Okay I'll be the first to do it.
Your saying MBC is viable? *buzzer* Wrong, MBC isn't viable because it lacks so many stuff. Decent card drawing (Other than Necro, Skeletal and Night's Whisper) It can't counter, and No artifact and enchantment removal.
Mono-Black is dead. I have been running Suicide for almost a year, and unless your in a janky metagame MBC is Dead.
I have recently played against a Proxied Gorger (Budgetish) and had 5 wins and 0 losses.
I finally got an ITL Chains of Mephistopheles yet I haven't played Psychatog except for in a multiplayer match. From what I've seen though, Chains is a beast.
What are some other creature considerations if I decide to keep this mono-black? Pretty soon there will be Type 1 "Sligh/Burn" The owner may not know how to run the deck, but all that burn will keep my Negator off the field, so an alternative will be needed.
I need to post my new build, off the top of my head I don't know it since I haven't messed with it. Once I get it I will edit this post and put it here.
Ouch man, Desperate Ritual, Chrome Moxes and Seething Songs on top of 20 mountains? That's WAY to much mana sources. Drop the desperate rituals and add in 3 pulse and 1 pyroclasm.
Phyrexian Negator is, indeed, a conundrum. The scrubbier the metagame, the worse this card is, even in a good deck.
Powered environments don't typically play as much aggro, instead aiming for more combo or controllish decks. These decks can have major problems with plays like "Swamp, Ritual, Negator" getting shoved down their throats turn 1 unless they have FoW.
The problem is that aggro-heavy metas such as yours can answer your Swamp/Ritual/Negator with silly things like Mountain/Lightning Bolt, which effectively gives them a 3-for-1 deal. 3-for-1 deals on the first turn win games.
In your particular meta, Negator becomes terrible when there's a 6/6 Ravager on the other side of the table. Heck, even an Arrogant Wurm or Wild Mongrel starts looking imposing after turn 2 or 3.
Well the Negator is still there because I haven't had a problem with it's downside. And I don't think Ravager will be a problem because the owner is taking it apart, Well actually he TOOK it apart.
I put this in Casual since no one takes Suicide seriously
I know, I know. Suicide is dead, but it's still my favorite Arche Type. I've been running the same build for almost a year and decided to change it.
First off, my metagame consists of:
Budget Psychatog(A Decent Build)
Parfait
There could be a Ravager deck, and a Madness soon
Type Two Decks
After much thought, I decided to attempt the inclusion of Chains of Mephistopheles and Crucible of Worlds I found that while Hypnotic Specter is good in Old Sui it is simple to slow for a new version of it. Since Suicide simply couldn't keep up with newer decks, it must become faster OR be able to control the board. Also, Null Rod in the mainboard? How would that work out?
With the addition of Crucible of Worlds and still having Yawgmoth's Will maindecked, Planar Void only hurts now so I should switch them with Withered Wretch correct? If I do include him, should I switch him to the Mainboard? a 2/2 for BB is nice aswell. It would only help against Psychatog and Madness (Against Wonder and Roars) Again, if I do add him in the maindeck, how much should I add and what to take out?
Everyone argues that the random discard caused by Hymn is great for decks such as Welder, but I have insane luck with a die when it comes to Hymn to tourach and rarely give the other deck a great opportunity, so I don't know if dropping Hymns would help me.
Also everyone tends to agree that Sinkholes are useless thanks to the fetchlands and Crucible of Worlds but in a metagame such as mine it really isn't useless seeing how I am the only one that has Crucible and Psychatog is the only deck that uses Fetches.
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I have yet to play WW, Is it a favorable matchup for Ponza aslong as I have Clasm and Culling? I could of played them for the past 3 tournaments but we weren't paied against each other.
I dont have any pyroclasm's but i guess that should be something i should add to my sideboard.
Run them in mainboard, it helps against matchups that your slith just can't seem to get through. Same with slogger and etc. It also helps to get rid of big creatures when combined with Magma Jet.
What about Memory Jar? Could that possibly be a nice addition to this deck? I like your second build more than the other. Yes you do need to up the count of Intuitions, 3 at most IMO.
Does 2 Kokushos in the main board help? My friend MD them but saw after ravager was banned that there was no need as they only truly helped in certain situations. He switched them with Sundering Titans and his build seems to be running better.
Creatures:
4x Arc-Slogger
4x Slith Firewalker
2x Kumano
2x Zo-Zu, The Punisher
2x Hearth Kami
Other:
4x Molten Rain
4x Stone Rain
4x Magma Jet
4x Seething Song
3x Pulse of the Forge
3x Pyroclasm
2x Demolish
Lands/Mana:
17x Mountain
3x Chrome Mox
2x Blinkmoth Nexus
Sideboard (So far):
3x Sowing Salt
3x Defense Grid
3x Shatter
3x Volcanic Hammer
2x Culling Scales
1x Zo-Zu (An Odd-Ball 1 in the SB, but I don't know what else to add?)
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Is it a solid decklist for Regionals? What about the SB? Any help is appreciated.
*smack* Okay I'll be the first to do it.
Your saying MBC is viable? *buzzer* Wrong, MBC isn't viable because it lacks so many stuff. Decent card drawing (Other than Necro, Skeletal and Night's Whisper) It can't counter, and No artifact and enchantment removal.
Mono-Black is dead. I have been running Suicide for almost a year, and unless your in a janky metagame MBC is Dead.
There's my Suicide Thread
I finally got an ITL Chains of Mephistopheles yet I haven't played Psychatog except for in a multiplayer match. From what I've seen though, Chains is a beast.
What are some other creature considerations if I decide to keep this mono-black? Pretty soon there will be Type 1 "Sligh/Burn" The owner may not know how to run the deck, but all that burn will keep my Negator off the field, so an alternative will be needed.
I need to post my new build, off the top of my head I don't know it since I haven't messed with it. Once I get it I will edit this post and put it here.
No, Gush is restricted in Type 1.
Ouch man, Desperate Ritual, Chrome Moxes and Seething Songs on top of 20 mountains? That's WAY to much mana sources. Drop the desperate rituals and add in 3 pulse and 1 pyroclasm.
Well the Negator is still there because I haven't had a problem with it's downside. And I don't think Ravager will be a problem because the owner is taking it apart, Well actually he TOOK it apart.
I know, I know. Suicide is dead, but it's still my favorite Arche Type. I've been running the same build for almost a year and decided to change it.
First off, my metagame consists of:
Budget Psychatog(A Decent Build)
Parfait
There could be a Ravager deck, and a Madness soon
Type Two Decks
4x Nantuko Shade
4x Hypnotic Specter
2x Masticore
4x Sinkhole
4x Hymn to Tourach
4x Diabolic Edict
4x Duress
3x Powder Keg
1x Mind Twist
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Necropotence
1x Demonic Consultation
1x Demonic Tutor
4x Wasteland
4x Dark Ritual
1x Strip Mine
1x Lotus Petal
3x Null Rod
2x Planar Void
After much thought, I decided to attempt the inclusion of Chains of Mephistopheles and Crucible of Worlds I found that while Hypnotic Specter is good in Old Sui it is simple to slow for a new version of it. Since Suicide simply couldn't keep up with newer decks, it must become faster OR be able to control the board. Also, Null Rod in the mainboard? How would that work out?
-2x Masticore
+2 Chains of Mephistopheles
-2x Powder Keg
+2x Crucible of Worlds
But I lose a good mass removal with the cutting of Powder Keg .
How about instead of cutting 2 Powder Kegs for Crucible:
-1x Mind Twist While this card is great rarely do I muster up enough mana to do enough damage
-1x Diabolic Edict
+2x Crucible of Worlds
With the addition of Crucible of Worlds and still having Yawgmoth's Will maindecked, Planar Void only hurts now so I should switch them with Withered Wretch correct? If I do include him, should I switch him to the Mainboard? a 2/2 for BB is nice aswell. It would only help against Psychatog and Madness (Against Wonder and Roars) Again, if I do add him in the maindeck, how much should I add and what to take out?
Everyone argues that the random discard caused by Hymn is great for decks such as Welder, but I have insane luck with a die when it comes to Hymn to tourach and rarely give the other deck a great opportunity, so I don't know if dropping Hymns would help me.
Also everyone tends to agree that Sinkholes are useless thanks to the fetchlands and Crucible of Worlds but in a metagame such as mine it really isn't useless seeing how I am the only one that has Crucible and Psychatog is the only deck that uses Fetches.
So the deck is looking like this:
4x Nantuko Shade
4x Hypnotic Specter (Still need help with this)
4x Sinkhole
4x Hymn to Tourach
4x Duress
3x Powder Keg
3x Diabolic Edict
2x Chains of Mephistopheles
2x Crucible of Worlds
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Necropotence
1x Demonic Consultation
1x Demonic Tutor
4x Wasteland
4x Dark Ritual
1x Strip Mine
1x Lotus Petal
3x Null Rod
Well, so far the deck hasn't changed much.
What about a BG Build? I have been thinking about it, for Pernicious Deed and with that comes Regrowth.
Or even WB for Exalted, StPs etc.
Well, Class is about to end so I have to go, thanks for all the help I recieve. I still need help with the build, so help please! Thanks.
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4.5/5
How about mine?
Run them in mainboard, it helps against matchups that your slith just can't seem to get through. Same with slogger and etc. It also helps to get rid of big creatures when combined with Magma Jet.