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  • posted a message on Burn
    Quote from Goblin Maniac »
    Quote from DanzBorin »
    Swiftspear hitting for 7 or 8? What meta are you playing in?!

    Sounds like perfect hand/draw scenario world. Like when you goldfish a few games.


    Pick one. Legacy's or Modern's. The only perfect hand/draw scenario you need here is that you draw the Swiftspear in your intial hand. Your opponent will clearly have plenty of answers in between, but even if he drops a creature turn 2 or 3, you're still swinging with a 3/4 or 4/5 Swiftspear and they'll be forced to block. The deck is simply designed that way. More than half of all your burn spells are single mana spells. You'll draw more than plenty to pump it. And if you don't then it won't make a difference since you'll likely have drawn the Eidolon anyway. It's just how deadly the Swistspear can be in your initial hand when it can regularly hit for 7 or 8 in those early turns. Really no different than playing another Goblin. You even find yourself playing Swiptspear before Goblin. That's just the way the deck runs.

    It just never works out that way. Generally you attack for 1 on turn 1. Turn 2 at best you hit for 3. After that it's either dead or dealing with something bigger and badder. In burn you tend to run out of spells. I can't ever see you going off with 6 spells to make this hit for 7. Or 5 to hit for 6, or 4 to hit for 5. You just don't have the card draw to have all of these spells to cast. Would be much more likely in a UR shell.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Burn
    Swiftspear hitting for 7 or 8? What meta are you playing in?!

    Sounds like perfect hand/draw scenario world. Like when you goldfish a few games.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on The Pioneer Format
    Quote from leslak »
    I would like it as a new extended. Modern is now a "new legacy" but every legal card can be reprinted. This is just a Modern without lots of cards that defined it, it is like a "hey lets do a modern format without the "good cards" from modern"... It is not that it is bad but id hope that the format had more changes than just be a new modern. How about rotation- like a big extended (lots of years), it would be nice to have a 8 years worth of cards format that rotated, this way wizards would always have a "flesh" format to show off as a new modern. Non rotation will only make new staples be discovered and soon after 3-4 years the format be almost like modern is today.

    If it was new Legacy without reserve list, it would go back to Masques. I do agree this is trying to kill reserve list cards for good. They don't like Legacy. If Legacy goes, I go. I've been playing this game too long to watch them abandon the past.

    This is a cash grab format. It allows them to have a modern that they don't have to worry about reprints tanking value. If you notice, the kick off point is the first set that started the era of huge print runs. Now they can reprint like crazy and keep the modern "money" stuff for Masters sets and charge $15 a pack for it. No more fetch lands in $3 packs. They won't worry about needing to reprint anything in standard that will piss off Modern players. They can just crank the stuff out. They will generate the big bucks from stupid stuff like Collectors Packs with 42 different borders and styles instead of anything of actual value from a play standpoint.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Theros: Beyond Death Elspeth
    Looks kind of like Brie Larson.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Primer]] A guide to all things Sliver Overlord
    Quote from Iliurgul »
    Quote from DanzBorin »

    Which commander does this synergize with?

    Are you talking about Grothama, All-Devouring + Spiteful Sliver or about The Great Henge?

    Well, in first case I will use Sliver Overlord, cause you need to draw Grothama and then fecth for Spiteful sliver, play it, and then play Grothama for suicide X slivers vs Grothama, doing X times 10 damage to any target, and drawing a ton if Grothama dies.

    In The Great Henge case, it synergize with every sliver commander. I usually run Sliver Overlord as commander, but sometimes I change for any of the other sliver legends to pair the powerlevel of my deck with the others in casual games. Any sliver legend are a 7/7, so cast The Great Henge is kind of free, except for Sliver Hivelord or Morophon, the Boundless, but it is still great.

    I might test out Henge for the card draw, but Grothama just seems win more.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on [[Primer]] A guide to all things Sliver Overlord
    Quote from Iliurgul »
    <<<<<<<<<<The Great Henge >>>>>>>>>>
    Can be a better designed card to play with your commander in play? I said NO! Double ramp + lifegain + stronger slivers + draw card for efectively 0 mana. =)


    I could get a Grothama, All-Devouring, so I'm ready to combo with Spiteful Sliver. I hope it will be so awesome like it seems.

    Which commander does this synergize with?
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on [ELD] the command zone preview - Gadwick the Wizened (Merlin mtg)
    I wish his name was Chadwick
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [ELD] Amaz preview - Giant killer
    Quote from DanzBorin »
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Hey cool combo

    Keep using the tap ability on your Scaretiller you change the text to “put a land card from your hand or graveyard ont the battlefield tapped”

    Should Abrade have been 1 mana to bolt or shatter?! Nah. Increase in cost is due to said flexibility. If it was lower cost it would be too good or be mythic.


    This wouldn't break limited if it was an uncommon.

    I wouldn't think so either.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [ELD] Amaz preview - Giant killer
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Hey cool combo

    Keep using the tap ability on your Scaretiller you change the text to “put a land card from your hand or graveyard ont the battlefield tapped”

    Should Abrade have been 1 mana to bolt or shatter?! Nah. Increase in cost is due to said flexibility. If it was lower cost it would be too good or be mythic.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [ELD} Gilded Goose and Egg
    Neutered BoP sucks... It's just bad.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Full set of 40 Dual Lands : looking for advice
    Without much of a presence online it's going to be tough to sell them unless you take too little for them. If you have some ebay references it could help. If you live in an area that gets bigger Magic events or can travel to one, it might be the best place to sell them. If not, I'd say ebay or possibly on some facebook for sale group.

    I think in person will probably be your best bet, you just have to find a way to get people to know they are for sale.

    I would sell all 40 at once if possible. If not you will be stuck with Taigas and Plateaus for a while. If you do break them up, best way would be sell playsets.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
  • posted a message on {C19} Mystic intelect full deck list + command zone preview card - Elsha of the Infinite
    When I see this year commander decks I wonder how we get $20 duel decks, like the Dredge one, that have way better reprints in them.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Burn
    Quote from bellune »
    Won an FNM going 3-0 with the deck (my first tournament playing it).

    I’m still refining the mana base, but the Horizon Lands have been very good to me, I’d say they won me several games seeing extra cards.

    20 lands seems appropriate.

    I now need to try Barbarian Ring.
    Still hesitant on how many Light Up the Stage is the right number, too.


    Match-ups?
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on The Legacy Price Discussion Thread
    Quote from ed06288 »
    I find it funny that people still discuss legacy and the 7 people who play it

    I guess duals hold value long term anyways because of commander.

    Lots of folks still play Legacy. It's the best all around competitive format. It would be far greater if not the reserved list. That said, as many people that like duals for EDH, Legacy drives the prices on duals. It's not a coincidence USea and Volcanic are the 2 most expensive right now. Anything printed after the reserve list is kind of a joke value wise.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
  • posted a message on The Legacy Price Discussion Thread
    Quote from Kirby01 »
    I started roughly calculating the expected value of booster boxes, using the average card value for each level of rarity and multiplying by the number of those cards in a pack and then by the number of packs in a given box. I was looking more for a relative gauge of value, and so ignored the possibility that I could randomly hit some high-value foils which would only increase the value. For most of the standard and modern sets that I looked at, the cost of the booster boxes seem to roughly track slightly above the expected value of the cards, so if I bought enough boxes, I could expect to come close to breaking even and maybe even make a decent amount if I hit on some nice rares and foils. In other words, the risk seemed low compared to the potential rewords, and as a worst case, I could make Duraflame logs out of the unwanted commons.

    When I started to do the same calculations with the older Legacy sets, I found that the Booster box prices far exceeded the expected average returns. Even if a quarter of the booster packs contained the sought-after high-value rares, the potential value of the individual cards wasn't coming close to what the booster boxes were selling for. I know there is are a lot of differences in the makeup of older packs and sets, as Wizards was often playing with the frequency of rares and uncommons on print sheets and the card count in each pack and pack count in each box changed a few times, so I might need to tweak my calculations for these older sets. Is there a good resource providing the details of the makeup rares in packs and boxes for the older sets? What else am I missing? Are these older boxes sets really that overpriced? Are they such a risky investment, or could I potentially expect to get enough high-value cards in return? And if I do, is it worth having them graded to potentially increase the value and recoup more of the initial investment?

    I get the sense that I may be missing the bigger picture, and thus am looking for some general guidance in what seems to me to be a risky investment.

    Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

    Old unopened product is rare. That's why it's expensive. You will never break even unless you get a bunch of cards graded and get good marks. Even then unless it's Legends and before there won't be much of a bump in value for graded cards.

    Most of the time you could get every good rare/uncommon in the set and not even come close to breaking even. Sealed product is almost always a loss, even more so with vintage sealed product.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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