The Limited Archetypes of Guilds of Ravnica
 
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  • posted a message on Burn
    Quote from BasedFuster »
    Lol death's shadow. Seems pretty easy to wreck with burn if they're going out of the way to power out a big Death's Shadow. Miracles seems a lot easier to play against now that they can't countertop lock us. The only deck I've been having trouble with is DNT and it's mostly just because I can't draw enough answers for their threats most of the time despite running 4 Smash and 3 Searing Blood in the SB.

    I don't worry about their threats after a certain point. Stay aggressive with direct damage and you will take it. I only aim at creatures early game when I have a Guide pushing hard.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Burn
    Quote from mtgsalaccount »
    Are there any special lands for burn? I'm kind of tired of basic lands.

    Fetch Lands for Lavamancer and a Single Taiga for sideboard options that hit artifacts and enchantments. Have to have an out against Laylines.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Vraska, Golgari Queen - TCGPlayer
    Quote from Whirl »
    By the gods, she's gorgeous both in art and abilities Love is in the air

    My Ghave deck sure would love to include her Smile

    Ghave was my first thought.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Hypothesizzle
    Stupid name. Seems mediocre for limited.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Narcomoeba - from future-shifted uncommon to rare
    Quote from asmallcat »
    Narcomeba is a complex card that's garbage in limited. Guess where those cards go now? In the rare slot. It's not a conspiracy. It's exactly where it would be printed if it was a new card.

    Why would you want this in a rare spot? Diluting the number of good cards in a pack is the worst thing a company that lives on selling packs could do. It lowers the incentive for people to buy the product that you are selling.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Narcomoeba - from future-shifted uncommon to rare
    Quote from Athelas »
    "Doesn't drive you to buy packs" guess what, you shouldn't buy packs just to crack them anywya.

    This is the problem with how things have gone. Wizards should try to make cards that are good enough to make people open packs.

    That said, it's a tough balancing act and creates design issues. Can't just shove expdeitions/inventions/etc in every set.

    That said, upticking rarity certainly won't help.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Land Matters Reprints
    No Life From the Loam?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The [Un]Official "Buy or Sell?" Thread!
    Quote from MikeMikeMTG »
    I have a fully playable deck of all antiquities, including lots of rarer cards...like a Mishra's workshop and one each of the factories. It'd be a pain to list out all the cards, but median worth for the entire deck is around $3k if you consider each individual card. Would this be worth more as a playable deck, or should I sell each card individually? Thanks!

    You would need to part it out individually to get the best prices. The chances of someone wanting the same 60 card deck is pretty slim.

    Also, condition is king with the cards and it's tough to get cards that old in good condition. Most people will want to see them in person before forking over that kind of cash.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
  • posted a message on Why is the Dual/Fetch combination untouchable?
    I don't see any reason to ban fetches/duals from a gameplay standpoint.
    Posted in: Legacy (Type 1.5)
  • posted a message on Deathrite Shaman and Gitaxian probe banned in legacy no other changes
    Quote from Lord Void »
    Quote from DanzBorin »

    I agree it's not the most fun, but it does pose a challenge. We are trying unsanctioned 10 proxy Legacy to help people and lure some folks in. Some decks 10 cards just isn't enough. I'm trying to build one now that has 12 cards from $100-300 each. It's daunting, but I'm trying.

    Luckily Burn and Mono Black Reanimator can be made on the cheap. Death and Taxes isn't too awful.


    Rising to a challenge is one of the most interesting parts of Legacy. Probe was my favorite blue card, but adapting to its ban has been an interesting experience that I am excited to be having, despite my love for the card.

    I want to see what happens to Legacy about a month from now. I want to see what happens when the metagame "settles."

    Good luck with getting into the format, because I am doing so on many other levels. Keep on keeping on, as they say.

    Probe ban is a pain for my newly adopted deck. I built Belcher and boy does the probe ban slow it down.

    Street Wraith performs a similar function but doesn't add to storm and doesn't sniff out counters. lol
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The Legacy Price Discussion Thread
    Quote from Gren08 »
    Brightling and Arcane Artisan. Curious how long they will hold out. Brightling seems to be cooling off while Artisan is starting to ramp up. Legacy is pretty shaken up right now.

    Artisan has a neat effect, but is serious Bolt bait.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
  • posted a message on Deathrite Shaman and Gitaxian probe banned in legacy no other changes
    Quote from Lord Void »
    Quote from DanzBorin »

    I am neither and just got into Legacy. Takes some time and investment, but not all decks are insane.


    This, honestly. I cannot stress enough how MUCH that time and investment ARE (as I constructed my storm deck's primary components over half a decade ago), but even that was as a college student just trying to make intelligent application of given resources, via trading up economically for the format in question.

    It takes a lot of time and a LOT of patience and diligence to invest in for sure, which is frustrating and for most people, very sadly difficult to reach. I personally dislike the inaccessibility of Legacy as a format, which is the largest cause for my dislike of the reserve list. However, THAT matter is not a discussion for here, nor apparently ANYWHERE based on various quotes from MaRo.


    I agree it's not the most fun, but it does pose a challenge. We are trying unsanctioned 10 proxy Legacy to help people and lure some folks in. Some decks 10 cards just isn't enough. I'm trying to build one now that has 12 cards from $100-300 each. It's daunting, but I'm trying.

    Luckily Burn and Mono Black Reanimator can be made on the cheap. Death and Taxes isn't too awful.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Deathrite Shaman and Gitaxian probe banned in legacy no other changes
    Quote from Cainsson »
    What they said with this update is "Don't play Legacy if you don't already have RL cards".
    Pretty much every budget deck depended on Gitaxian Probe. Now it's Burn or don't play because you're a peasant and dind't invest in Magic 20 years ago when you may not have even been born.

    They better reprint Wasteland, Karakas, Cavern of Souls and Rishadan Port at least once more next year to make up for killing pretty much every sub-$1K deck to mildly inconvenience Tendrills.


    Quite honestly, yes. Legacy is for people who either have lots of money or have been playing the game for 25 years. Legacy is just too expensive because demand is high and supply is low. Just play Modern, Commander or Canadian Highlander like the rest of us.

    I am neither and just got into Legacy. Takes some time and investment, but not all decks are insane. D&T is a solid deck with lots of favorable matchups and isn't nuts. Burn is even less.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The Legacy Price Discussion Thread
    Quote from drakeavril »
    What is the average cost of a legacy deck that is at least 2 colours? Just duels and fetches seem to be about $1500.

    Tough to say. Duals are so high. But you can play more basics. Miracles runs about the cheapest as far as 2/3 color decks. 3 color adds a couple of Volcanics though so the price jumps $1000 over the 2 color miracles.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
  • posted a message on Possible solution to reserve list problem: Reserve list buyback program
    Quote from NierAutomata »
    I just think the reserve list hate is irrational. It's about entitlement and jealousy. It's about the sticker shock of seeing the price of a Beta BGS 9.5 Lotus and thinking "wow that's crazy"

    Wizards already has Modern and Standard. And it's been clear for a long time now that Modern is really the eternal format that Wizards wants to move forward with. Wizards has total control of the pricing market of Modern because they can simply reprint any card within modern. Modern is a slower format than legacy, cheaper to get in, and less powerful, meaning more cards get to see play.

    I love legacy. But the simple fact of the matter is we don't need many cards from each new set. The power curve is so high that in order for each new set to be truly interactive with legacy, they're going to grossly up the power level of cards. This means that pandering to the jealousy and entitlement of seeing high priced dual lands, and for what? To support a format that regularly has turn 3 kills? To build around a format with a level of power orders of magnitude beyond standard today? To completely uproot the pace of new sets simply to pander to some 20 year old cards from a bygone era?

    I don't want Wizards to balance around vintage or legacy. The future of magic is a slower more interactive game. Wizards to their credit understands that.

    Here's the point.
    If Wizards isn't going to go out of their way to build the future of magic around legacy, then the issue of breaking up the reserve list becomes a moot point. It becomes ONLY about bringing down the price of dual lands and the power nine. That's it. Nobody is blaming the reserve list because the price of the rest of the junk on there is too high.

    So then abolishing the RL is about getting power nine and duals into players' hands. Imagine Wizards does crash the price of ancestral recall to 5 dollars a copy. Great. Then what? You're going to build decks around ancestral? You want your playerbase to build decks around ancestral? You honestly want that level of power moving foward?

    If it's not about supporting a format going forward, then its about the jealousy of duals and power. And frankly, many mtg players have already bought into legacy based on the trust of the reserve list. God knows how many times magic has almost died. And I'm sorry to say this but players are fair weather fans. They'll stick around for a few seasons before moving on. The collector who sunk thousands into mtg is the one here to stay. Maybe not with the fervor of the new player, but with loyalty that's lasted much longer.

    I guarantee if Wizards takes out the reserve list, the following will happen. Wizards will blossom for a time, selling power like hotcakes. But it wont take long before the allure of every player owning cheap power and duals takes away the allure and mystique of the most powerful cards. Fair weather players will go their way in a few years, finding another hobby or video game in short time. The only difference is that this time, with the golden goose killed, the collection value of Wizards' most longtime fans decimated, and the mythos of mtg at an end, there will be no one left to keep the flame alive.


    I think it's a bit stuck up to think that only people who can afford reserve list staples that have tripled in less than a year should be allowed to play in a format. Ownership doesn't make you any better at a game... It's elitist to want to lock anyone out of said format.
    Posted in: Legacy (Type 1.5)
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