I'm awake. I'm shooting nacho in about two hours. Nothing has really convinced me that I should shoot someone else. Vaimes is still a close second. A ton of people have expressed that they don't want nacho dead.
Well the choice is between nacho and Vaimes. The people who post before I shoot should choose one of them and if there's overwhelming votes for Vaimes I'd change my shot.
You give us a top 2/3 of your choice, and let us make cases for which one you should shoot, rather than everyone just spinning their wheels or not really doing anything.
Well I wanted to see who the people wanted to dead, because my shot choices might be bad. I'm not that invested in the game and I can't really make sense of anything.
I'd like to shoot in nacho/keldeo/vaimes/kcc/fulcrum. I strongly prefer nacho with vaimes coming in second pretty closely and kcc in third. I kinda like what keldeo has been posting, but m1ndreaver left a sour taste in my mouth so I'm not completely opposed to that shot. I'm also of two minds on fulcrum so good arguments for or against could sway me here too.
@Asta: Who would you shoot if you were in my place?
I'm not convinced in killing anyone of the top picks. I guess I don't really like how low laying Vaimes is right now and his role usage is kinda bad, but I'm not that convinced he is scum.
I'm talking myself into nacho and out of it almost every day.
@nacho: Who do you think is the scum on KCC's wagon? 2 picks please.
Also I had a weird dream last night where I shot killjoy and he flipped scum and everyone rejoiced and I can't stop thinking about how stupid that would be (I don't think kj is scum and I'm not gonna shoot him lol)
The way she put out her scummy role in the beginning and the way she is approaching this day feel like town trying to play the game, not like cornered scum who is trying to survive. Even her reaction to the CC was great.
Why is almost nobody suspecting silver? He seems to fly under the radar too much and I can't say I vibed with his reads too much.
I wouldn't cry over Vaimes or fulcrum. I just don't trust Vaimes, though that is primarily gut-based because his behavior and night action feel off. Fulcrum seemed really convinced her role couldn't co-exist with Axelrod's but then just completely dropped it.
Two things:
1. If you are choosing between killing Vaimes and me, kill me first, and then don't kill him. Do not ignore my read on him after my death.
2. Look, I'm not an expert on how this site's approach to roles has changed over time. Base on the reactions, and other claims, I may have overestimated how close my role is to Axel's. I still firmly believe the overlap in us learning Ability Names is weird. I expect it will be reevaluated later in the game, and my info will be useful at that time. Right now, I see no point in pushing Axel, as I do not have the ability to get him lynched (or to convince Vezok to lynch him) and I'm not sure if I even should.
I'm down to kill Axelrod. Tom is doing a weird thing with the votecounts where he takes the second choice as an entire vote when it should clearly be ranked voting.
Well, silly seems wrong. You can disagree, but really only if you're strongly scum-reading him. Otherwise Mason is kind of exactly what you would want in this spot.
I want someone I trust as town + someone whose reads I trust. Do I trust vezok's process as town? No.
I saw this again and had to comment. This is a pretty preposterous statement to make when half of the ***** that happened yesterday was because you counter claimed KCC for no reason.
There's also the fact that you changed the season to summer without consulting with anyone and wouldn't you know it summer is exactly the season that unlocks the day kill for scum.
Secondly this can all be solved if his Mason buddy claims
I'm not pushing suspicion on him, I just want his partner to claim, because like any other uninformed player, I get paranoid, and I think it is hands down the correct play to do, once a mason claims
If you are busy fine, but don't shade that fact that we no lynched after 3 weeks
Look, there is no reason for my partner to claim today as I'm king and unless you want to vig me, it's to late for today to express suspicion. Focus on other stuff. It's not that much of a mystery either way. We'll probably claim tomorrow, but there is literally no reason for it to happen today.
And regarding the whole Vaimes thing, I'm kinda falling in favour of town him. I'd rather focus on Rhand a bit.
Vaimes you're kinda at the top of my list for shooting. Can you give real thoughts on players instead of talking about your role for tons of posts in a row?
I also think everyone should drop the subject. Vaimes making terrible decisions with his abilities is right on par for Vaimes. In a bubble, Vaimes use of the ability is marginally +town, but there are reasons to do what he did as scum.
It says I get things in exchange for abilities. That's it. I didn't even realise the vendor is a real person. I thought it was more like a game item. I had absolutely no idea that the ability I exchanged went to the vendor. But DV writes pretty light PMs. In arkham I had no idea what one of my ability did.
So yeah, I'm sure it's enough to figure that the ability goes to someone else, but I never figured that.
Anyway my shortlist of people I want semi-dead is: Vaimes, KCC, Rhand, Keldeo, Axelrod, fulcrum and maybe nacho.
I'm open to other suggestions, but I'd prefer killing in this pile.
In Modern Mafia Vaimes was a vig that shot KCC who was being really town instead of actual scum. He even had to target the same person twice to kill them. Vaimes doing weird stuff with his actions is right on par with what I'd believe from town him.
It's still a bad action, but the explanations are reasonable.
tom makes very good cases for Fonti and Keldeo and I'd really like an explanation from both of them.
Well the choice is between nacho and Vaimes. The people who post before I shoot should choose one of them and if there's overwhelming votes for Vaimes I'd change my shot.
Announcing intent to kill nacho when I wake up. Probably 10 hours or so.
Well I wanted to see who the people wanted to dead, because my shot choices might be bad. I'm not that invested in the game and I can't really make sense of anything.
I'd like to shoot in nacho/keldeo/vaimes/kcc/fulcrum. I strongly prefer nacho with vaimes coming in second pretty closely and kcc in third. I kinda like what keldeo has been posting, but m1ndreaver left a sour taste in my mouth so I'm not completely opposed to that shot. I'm also of two minds on fulcrum so good arguments for or against could sway me here too.
I kinda want to shoot nacho. The way she fired her shot after CCing KCC seems decidedly un-town. The flip would be good for information.
I'm not convinced in killing anyone of the top picks. I guess I don't really like how low laying Vaimes is right now and his role usage is kinda bad, but I'm not that convinced he is scum.
I'm talking myself into nacho and out of it almost every day.
@nacho: Who do you think is the scum on KCC's wagon? 2 picks please.
Also I had a weird dream last night where I shot killjoy and he flipped scum and everyone rejoiced and I can't stop thinking about how stupid that would be (I don't think kj is scum and I'm not gonna shoot him lol)
It would help if we reach a consensus otherwise I'd just shoot in the top picks.
The way she put out her scummy role in the beginning and the way she is approaching this day feel like town trying to play the game, not like cornered scum who is trying to survive. Even her reaction to the CC was great.
Why is almost nobody suspecting silver? He seems to fly under the radar too much and I can't say I vibed with his reads too much.
I'm down to kill Axelrod. Tom is doing a weird thing with the votecounts where he takes the second choice as an entire vote when it should clearly be ranked voting.
Scratch Keldeo of my list and put axel there.
As for my choice I'll pick nacho first and maybe keldeo second, but these are subject to change.
Nacho makes good points in her favour, but the fact that she is the one saying it makes less likely to be true.
I'm also thinking if shouldn't just shoot KCC to reveal stuff about the day 1 wagons.
I saw this again and had to comment. This is a pretty preposterous statement to make when half of the ***** that happened yesterday was because you counter claimed KCC for no reason.
There's also the fact that you changed the season to summer without consulting with anyone and wouldn't you know it summer is exactly the season that unlocks the day kill for scum.
Look, there is no reason for my partner to claim today as I'm king and unless you want to vig me, it's to late for today to express suspicion. Focus on other stuff. It's not that much of a mystery either way. We'll probably claim tomorrow, but there is literally no reason for it to happen today.
And regarding the whole Vaimes thing, I'm kinda falling in favour of town him. I'd rather focus on Rhand a bit.
I also think everyone should drop the subject. Vaimes making terrible decisions with his abilities is right on par for Vaimes. In a bubble, Vaimes use of the ability is marginally +town, but there are reasons to do what he did as scum.
It says I get things in exchange for abilities. That's it. I didn't even realise the vendor is a real person. I thought it was more like a game item. I had absolutely no idea that the ability I exchanged went to the vendor. But DV writes pretty light PMs. In arkham I had no idea what one of my ability did.
So yeah, I'm sure it's enough to figure that the ability goes to someone else, but I never figured that.
Anyway my shortlist of people I want semi-dead is: Vaimes, KCC, Rhand, Keldeo, Axelrod, fulcrum and maybe nacho.
I'm open to other suggestions, but I'd prefer killing in this pile.
It's still a bad action, but the explanations are reasonable.
tom makes very good cases for Fonti and Keldeo and I'd really like an explanation from both of them.