I have a fun exercise for anyone townreading Proph, or at least doubting that he's mafia.
If Proph is a villager, and can still send orbs during the Day, and has been made aware that me lacking an orb is mechincally shooting town in the foot, then why hasn't he sent me one? Bonus points for showing your work.
I might be wrong here and probably need to dig up Axel's claims post, but I think Proph can only give one of each orb during the day and shadow already gave it to me.
Hear me out here. If the blue orb is a doc on other people with blue orb than shadow gifting me an orb is bad scum play. They don't know who I could target and shadow knows that I'll probably survive for a while so I can actually target people with orbs to save them (unfortunately I don't have abilities for this, but shadow couldn't have known this).
So maybe this was 5D chess from scum shadow to confuse us or maybe he was just town playing his role as best as he could. That's why I don't want to lynch proph even thought he isn't as active as he usually is. I really think it's due to irl stuff and not role.
@Vezok: why would them voting together make them the same alignment?
Because as I said before, I'm working with the dking/asta/silver/proph/kcc poe. If proph is town and you are town then KCC voting for dking is against her win con. Ergo, KCC is either scum with proph or KCC and proph are both town and the rest of the poe is scum. Your mindset today doesn't really seem to come from town.
Out of dking/asta/silver I'm least sure on dking, but I'm fine with this lynch.
I think he just misspoke, the only way he could have tried to roleblock dkings with his claim is if he thought you were going to target Killjoy next summer or something because no one else had a green or orange orb yet
If the orbs are nonseasonal I don't see why he would claim they are, unless he wanted to reduce the number of blue orbs he would "have" to pass out I guess? Why did shadow give Vezok a blue orb then? TMI/buddying I guess?
Idk, I think he true claimed regardless of his alignment
Didn’t he also claim to have a limited number of shots to gift whatever color he wants during the day?
Yeah but what was the plan? Stop you from protecting Killjoy and then give Killjoy an orange orb anyway after he got roleblocked? I guess burning a day use to give you a green orb is way less defensible and is probably why he hasn't used any more of his day shots yet...
Yeah that makes as much as sense as anything else I guess
vote: Prophylaxis (L-1)
If he's town I am 100% flipping KCC toMorrow though
Yeah, this is a scum post. KCC has been voting with proph for a long time on the dking wagon. There's no sensible world where proph is town and KCC is scum.
@Vaimes and fulcrum: How sure are you that proph is scum?
@Asta: No, I don't follow how a newbie could think double voting is op. All the newbies I've encountered thought that double voting is pretty meh. That's why I am asking you to explain further. Two votes doesn't give you a scum on a silver platter, doesn't confirm you as town and doesn't protect other roles. Watcher is a much more powerful role.
I might have mentioned my town role name before Gemma but I don't think so. I purposefully hid the double vote ability until Summer came and activated it because I was pretty sure that would get me shot immediately. I mean, I want to believe DK is definitely a bodyguard, but yeah, if scum wanted to remove voting power from town they would have shot DK then me.
Anyways, baa baa. Vaimes is still voting Proph, so I'm chill to stay there. (BTW, my vote wasn't an OMGUS vote, it was mostly a foregone conclusion since Vaimes was there.) Last is voting me, obvis not gonna hop on that wagon. Killjoy's not voting yet so not a great way to go. This has been the sheeping update.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is your second mafia game and you assumed that a double-vote would make you the highest priority target? Double-vote is pretty ***** for town and amazing for scum.
I really think Asta is just scum here. This thought process simply doesn't make sense.
People, fulcrum is never scum right now regardless of role. She's the only one putting in effort. That's never a scum move.
Scum is in dk/asta/silver/kcc/proph. We have one mislynch available so we just have to find 3 scum out of 5 people.
That Rhand post seems pretty damning for dking. Let's go there.
vote dkings
I'm still iffy about the fact that we have no protectives, but if KCC is town, then I guess it's kinda ok. I still want to know what killjoy's role is, but I think it's better if it happens tomorrow or in LyLo.
This is the rest of the votecount. dking can be scum voting me, fulcrum and Vaimes are probably not scum and that leaves proph scum not voting for anything because he is away.
All I'm coming to is silver/KCC/Asta scumteam. Can someone color day 2 and day 3 votecounts?
Hey Vaimes, let's talk. Let's say dkings flip scum. What does that make Asta?
I'm willing to vote either dkings or asta with no remorse. I'm a bit iffy on proph simply because his role is just too weird for scum and I kinda liked shadow in the beginning.
It's pretty much been "if you're not in my towncore, my reads depend on the last few posts you've done". I can understand well enough where his implosion is coming from-- I'm not a good player and haven't been improving because this chaotic game has kept me pretty disengaged.
I'm only going to post about once or twice a day, that's it, that's what ya get, that's what my schedule allows. If that winds up getting me mislynched, whatever, probably deserve it.
At the End of Day yesterday, my strongest bet was on voting KCC because she seemed like she was setting me up for a mislynch over some misunderstanding of my mechanics, seeming to believe that my voting activating in Summer was suspicious and magically related to the daykill, which uh. Wasn't following that. But I can't tell where she's at now, and Last seems to think she's town because he got a theoretical mini-mason jar. I'm not totally buying that we'd get to have 5 townies super confirmed, but I'm not not buying it either.
Hey Proph, I'm not alive because anyone's coaching me (I'd be posting WAY better and might actually be engaged enough to post more), I'm alive because I continue to be newbtown and mechanically cleared because so far people have rightfully believed scum wouldn't get a double voter. Only a shame it went to someone on their second game of mafia.
Vote Prophylaxis
Please use your lynch threshold lowering ability now on someone who is not getting lynched like me or killjoy. That is assuming we get some sort of confirmation from the mod you used this ability. Otherwise keep it to yourself and never use it.
I really don't want to get blown out by scum you having this ability and ******* up the lynch.
Asta was visited on N1 which I ~think confirms Dkingsland (more than he was, anyway) since no one else claimed Asta as their N1 target and dkings said he bodyguarded him N1.
to start off, KCC, Me, and fulcrum talked a decent amount during the night, and at this point I really just believe we are all town, I still am worried that Fulcrum could be the wolf the carried the factional KP on night 1, and was roleblocked by Keldeo, but I really do not want to use night actions to bury someone again, like we did with Keldeo
if we are going to lynch anyone that was in my chat, I expect some extraordinary cases on them
and since I believe that, Killjoy is always town, Vezok is obviously always town
Asta, dkingsland967, Silvercrys, Vaimes, Prophylaxis
so that is my PoE
They must've snowed you pretty good, dude
I'm town, dkings is a bodyguard with no extra non-wolf kill power in the setup, that leaves the double voter and two manipulatives that can't even control whether their abilities work
There's a world where Dkingsland's ability protects from the lunch and he's a wolf with Asta and also has unclaimed abilities, I suppose. Like maybe he had the daykill and got the bodyguard after he used it or something, he's the only "active" role to only have one mostly passive ability (even Asta has a Winter active lmao)
But I'd be pretty shocked if both of KCC and fulcrum are town. I can't build a strong enough wolf team with the remaining claims versus all the flipped town roles (tom and Keldeo both had a lot of disruption, pitting them and KCC against Proph + Vaimes roles seems really unfair to the wolves lmao)
vote: KittyCupCake
Dkingused used his shot during the day.
Can everyone start claiming what they did tonight? Vaimes should have done so in his first post. KCC needs to come here and claim. Killjoy also needs to fullclaim so we can understand what the **** is happening.
I might be wrong here and probably need to dig up Axel's claims post, but I think Proph can only give one of each orb during the day and shadow already gave it to me.
Hear me out here. If the blue orb is a doc on other people with blue orb than shadow gifting me an orb is bad scum play. They don't know who I could target and shadow knows that I'll probably survive for a while so I can actually target people with orbs to save them (unfortunately I don't have abilities for this, but shadow couldn't have known this).
So maybe this was 5D chess from scum shadow to confuse us or maybe he was just town playing his role as best as he could. That's why I don't want to lynch proph even thought he isn't as active as he usually is. I really think it's due to irl stuff and not role.
Scumchat can't play the game for you. They can only provide help.
Also who do you think is scum? You're almost as confirmed as me yet you voted nobody today.
Because as I said before, I'm working with the dking/asta/silver/proph/kcc poe. If proph is town and you are town then KCC voting for dking is against her win con. Ergo, KCC is either scum with proph or KCC and proph are both town and the rest of the poe is scum. Your mindset today doesn't really seem to come from town.
Out of dking/asta/silver I'm least sure on dking, but I'm fine with this lynch.
Yeah, this is a scum post. KCC has been voting with proph for a long time on the dking wagon. There's no sensible world where proph is town and KCC is scum.
@Vaimes and fulcrum: How sure are you that proph is scum?
@Asta: No, I don't follow how a newbie could think double voting is op. All the newbies I've encountered thought that double voting is pretty meh. That's why I am asking you to explain further. Two votes doesn't give you a scum on a silver platter, doesn't confirm you as town and doesn't protect other roles. Watcher is a much more powerful role.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is your second mafia game and you assumed that a double-vote would make you the highest priority target? Double-vote is pretty ***** for town and amazing for scum.
I really think Asta is just scum here. This thought process simply doesn't make sense.
Scum is in dk/asta/silver/kcc/proph. We have one mislynch available so we just have to find 3 scum out of 5 people.
That Rhand post seems pretty damning for dking. Let's go there.
vote dkings
I'm still iffy about the fact that we have no protectives, but if KCC is town, then I guess it's kinda ok. I still want to know what killjoy's role is, but I think it's better if it happens tomorrow or in LyLo.
KittyCupCake(7) -dkingsland967,Gemma, Nachomamma8, tomsloger, Lastwhisper, vezokpiraka, Axelrod
This wagon looks to be full town, with the exception of dking, but if KCC is town at least one other scum should have joined.
M1ndreaver(6) - vezokpiraka, tomsloger, Lastwhisper, Axelrod, KittyCupCake, Silvercrys
There's gotta be at least one scum in KCC, silver and last. There's no way this wagon is pure on day 1.
KittyCupCake(2) - Nachomamma8, Gemma
vezokpiraka(2) - dkingsland967, M1ndreaver
Axelrod(1) - Vaimes
Rhand(1) - Killjoy
Vaimes(1) - fulcrum
Not Voting(3) - Grapefruit21, Jackrito, Rhand
This is the rest of the votecount. dking can be scum voting me, fulcrum and Vaimes are probably not scum and that leaves proph scum not voting for anything because he is away.
All I'm coming to is silver/KCC/Asta scumteam. Can someone color day 2 and day 3 votecounts?
Hey Vaimes, let's talk. Let's say dkings flip scum. What does that make Asta?
I'm willing to vote either dkings or asta with no remorse. I'm a bit iffy on proph simply because his role is just too weird for scum and I kinda liked shadow in the beginning.
Please use your lynch threshold lowering ability now on someone who is not getting lynched like me or killjoy. That is assuming we get some sort of confirmation from the mod you used this ability. Otherwise keep it to yourself and never use it.
I really don't want to get blown out by scum you having this ability and ******* up the lynch.
I really have no idea who to vote and I'm afraid of being wrong.
I'd go with Asta, because I thought they were scum day 1 and they probably are.
vote asta
I have too many townreads. I really need to do some VCA. Vaimes and killjoy are god tier town status for me. Last and fulcrum are a step below.
Dk as claimed, does not target during the night. He is simply passively protecting the target.
Dkingused used his shot during the day.
Can everyone start claiming what they did tonight? Vaimes should have done so in his first post. KCC needs to come here and claim. Killjoy also needs to fullclaim so we can understand what the **** is happening.
I will not be here for deadline either or just barely woke up by then.
Can we CFD on KCC?