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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Quote from Vaimes »
    I am definitely interested in solving shadow’s/KCC’s questionable vote positions.

    I’d be very surprised if Axel is scum. The whole “surely tom is vanilla now because he used his only ability” thing worried me a bit, but that’s about it.
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    Or how about instead of focusing on dumb crazy world shenenigans we actually lynch scum kj and be done with it?

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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Quote from osieorb18 »
    If people want me lynched, I'm fine with voting myself right now since it seems like there's not likely any discussion actually happening about Killjoy, tom, Chris or others, just "Oh, they could be scum."

    My thought change on tom has very little to do with level of work or analysis, and a lot to do with perspective focus. Wolf!tom doesn't analyze people more than anyone else in the thread. Killjoy's been OMGUSy in his questions on top of his superficiality.

    This post probably doesn't mean anything to anyone, but take a close look at Axel, KCC, and Shadow, since I highly doubt that town fragments off like that. Last's vote also isn't great, but Last is just Zero-Escape-level Last this game anyways, so whatever.

    I'll give it an hour and then vote myself if votes haven't moved off of me.


    vote osie

    I'd otherwise miss the one hour deadline and I want my ability goddamn it.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Consider me on osie wagon. I want to be on the wagon to gain an ability, but I don't want to hammer right now.

    Tell me when you think we should end the day or you are going to vote scum KJ.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Ok I went and checked. You had 5 votes in 3 days.

    One vote on Az in RVS. Switched to shadow sometime day 1 and hammered Az when it was a done deal.
    You voted Last day 2 and didn't move your vote at all.
    And you voted tom day 3 and have not moved at all.

    For me this seems like scum who doesn't know what to do with their vote and just leaves it on a possible counter wagon.

    Town usually isn't afraid of having their voting patterns checked later so they are more free to move their vote, but you"ve been extremely cautious about it and I don't like it. Especially from a player who snap voted in 3p LyLo.

    Like seriously, I don't understand why the kj wagon isn't more popular.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Why hasn't targetting the claimed vig passed through your mind? Cantrip being immune to roleblocks and redirects would have been amazing.

    Also, people got mad cause you speedhammered in LyLo. That doesn't mean you never have to vote again.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Quote from KittyCupCake »
    Quote from Killjoy »
    @KCC: This was before I really had a strong read on him. I was kinda townreading him on behavior except the terrible vote on my wagon. He was among the best analysts in the game as well, but I was kinda approaching it wrong. I had a "maybe if I protect tom from things, I can stop something maybe bad" but obviously that doesn't work. Like a lot of my thoughts that night involved my ability stopping kills too, which it doesn't. After I realized that, I rethought it a bit.

    This... isn't enough. You saw Tom as a good analyst who you were kinda townreading -okay. Did you consider anyone else? Who? Why? You said you rethought things after your realization -how so? Walk me through your process with baby steps.


    He can't cause he is lying. This is just bullhit to fill the posts.

    Tom's post sums it up perfectly. The only real push KJ has ever even tried this game is on me. He has played a textbook scummy game with bad interactions with all dead scum and nonsensical stances.

    People voting tom: Tom's game make sense as town. Everything he did, while questionable, can come from town tom. What KJ did has no chance of coming from town KJ.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    I agree with shadow fully. More votes on kj please.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Quote from Killjoy »

    Vex: You said that I am unlikely to be scum, but I'm still on your scum picks. Explain plx.
    Appretnyl I typoed your name but I don't see an answer to this.

    This is why I'm questioning btw. Becasue you posted this:
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    I've already read today and my super solid town read on tom has not budged.

    Someone redirecting cantrip to town makes so much more sense then tom faking his flavour for *****s and giggles.

    Although now that I see KJ's wagon analysis I kinda doubt you can actually be scun. How about we work together and find the scum instead of going after tom?
    Whhere you seem to be saying you don't think I'm scum but you're still pushing me.


    That post was made after your wagon analysis. I thought you the effort put into the wagon analysis might have been coming from town you, but you kinda disappeared and I thought about it more and you're still my biggest scum read.

    And yeah, I am claiming that there is absolutely no reason to question me. I have been right about all my reads this game. I have hounded scum for the entirety of this game. If you want to question me you'll need some pretty big reasons for it and me scumreading you is not one of them.

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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Quote from Killjoy »
    I'm unsure if Vezok is tunneling or I'm just really wrong about him.

    If he's scum I guess I'll be 3/3 for townreading scum this game.


    Yes, I'm scum and pushed for two of my buddies day 1 and CC'ed scum's probably most powerful role just for funsies. Also stopped in my push for your head and Sir Chris' head to bus my other buddy because half the town was treating me as confirmed town and I needed more cred and then went back to trying to lynch my day 1 scumread, because I want this exact mislynch and not any other like tom. /s

    This is very obviously shading, but you haven't payed enough attention to the game to know that I am the moment the least likely person to be scum. Saying "vezok is scum" and giving no other reason except OMGUS is not how town think. This is not solving. This is scum trying to deflect as hard as possible in the hopes they get the mislynch on tom.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Tom is town and KJ is scum. If we lynch tom I get the hammer so I can use an ability, but I have no idea why you want to lynch town.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Quote from Killjoy »
    I'm Bant Spirits. Are cards ok to claim? I forget.

    Anyway, I'm Ascetic, and I have the once per game ability to make someone else Ascetic. I haven't used it. Haven't found a good target yet. I'm not sure they're is a de facto good target for it actually. Hitting town prevents doctor shots and hitting scum prevents investigative.

    I was going to use it on Grape to let him do that coroner thing but then we lynched him . I figured the benefit to town was decent and Grape probably wasn't gonna be a doc target.


    Sounds very similar to megs role. Would it make more sense for them to be mirrored town-scum roles or simply two town who can together make an ascetic bulletproof?
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Osie hear me out. How about you help us lynch KJ today and people will use actions at night to check on tom? Does that sound good for you? This whole page of you rambling about how tom is scum is not convincing anyone.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    If we somehow decide that tom is the lynch todat, I get the hammer. If anyone else hammers that will be considered a scum claim.

    Still, can we lynch KJ already? I've been hounding him since day 1 and he still somehow gets under the radar to let other scum come forth.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    Quote from KittyCupCake »
    Quote from Cantripmancer »
    I think this is good insight, as well, but I'm not sure that Tom's reaction to my accusation comes from scum?

    What reaction would you have expected? Admitting he false claimed? Is there any plausible town explanation he could have offered for that? -"There must have been a redirect" seems like the highest probability chance of getting out of it


    Also the likeliest explanation. Neither grape nor az even tried to fake claim the deck. It makes literally no sense for scum tom to think it would be a good idea especially when he shot town and got heat for it.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Night 3: Choke
    I'd prefer not to claim, but it doesn't really matter cause the ability I get is random so nobody knows what I'll do at night.
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