Some time ago, possibly a year, I posted an old black/red goblin deck of mine that i traded away. I have now gotten that deck back after asking the person if i could have it back to make adjustments. I missed it sooo much, i regreted trading it off. After making adjustments I realized that I was a HORRIBLE deck builder when i started. I had 32 lands in it O.O NOOOO! lol. needless to say it went under a major reworking, and this is what it has become.
This deck has gone 7-0-3 in my group and its been fun to play. once it gets going its hard to stop. its not a multiplayer deck though thats for sure.
Let me know your thoughts on it, good or bad.
SPhere of the Suns is a great and awesome card. I only own 1 of them so far though so i have to wait till they release the MBS set to come out. I want to run them though. I originally had Brittle Effigy in here but i replaced those with Flame slash. Looking at the deck as it is though its obvious that it will fail to a few things, one of which is control, definitely to control. I know I can make this work, back when alara was around in T2 my jund dragons are 12-0-4 and my gaming group fears it with a passion, so I know I can do this.
As for Inferno Titan and Wurmcoil engine. Good cards, not wanted in this deck. Besides, baneslayer only stops 1 dragon, not all of them. I agree about the blast vs bolt though. I wasn't sure which one to put in really so I might SB the Blast and MD the bolt.
As to wether or not i can beat valakut/PT. I don't know yet. I haven't playtested the deck. I own right now hardly any of the cards, well, the dragons, So i'll have to do extensive testing online via MWS. Maybe, if the deck works right, yes I can beat it. If Mordant Dragon is in it then I can kill PT and effectively or almost neuter Valakut but thats if I'm not neutered first. As I said its a gamble.
If i was you i would check the tread Big Red. Pyretic Ritual? its basicly +1 red for one turn only..... so there might be a better option for you. If you need a red ramp that much i would play iron myr. The last point, its about the dragon tribe theme... since there no point in your deck to run dragon only i would try better creature like Inferno Titan or Wurmcoil Engine instead of some of your beloved dragon. OR i would add Sharkan the Mad to the deck *this is really the only reason you should try to make a dragon tribe... but you will find that sharkan is often overkill...*
I actually replaced Iron Myr for Palladium because Palladium generated 2 and I have nothing but mountains in the deck, save for 2 tectonic edges. Yes, while you may wish to put in titan or engine, I have stated already that I don't like doing what everyone else is doing. Where is the fun in that? the skill? there isn't.
Pyretic Ritual already has been removed. It got replaced with 2 tectonic edges.
The last point (for real this time) i dont like to play a PW as a 4-of because its a dead card in some situation. so may be 3 koth only is enough.
Fair enough. I didn't realize you ONLY wanted critique on your list. In which case, I would definitely DROP Pyretic Ritual. It's just a horrible card. I would add 2 land. Also Tectonic Edge to help against Valakut.
As far as DRAGONS go, Mordant Dragon should be considered as *spot removal*
you sure about Mordant dragon? I've never really had a warm spot for it honestly, mostly cause it was 3 red and 3 others. In a mono deck its not that bad but i've just never been a fan of it. It might help, but it only counts if i can hit the opponent with it. I'd say I'd sideboard a couple of Mordant's rather then Main them. And i'll swap out 2 Pyretics for 2 Tectonic Edges.
Maybe, if someone wanted to run that list. But that is not the list I wish to run, my list is the list i wish to run. I prefer my own style not those of others.
Enjoy the suggestion though regardless.
Edit: Yes i understand theres two posts. THe one above was done BEFORE Goblin with a Gun posted. We posted at the same time and his showed up before mine.
i'm not sure if i'll need it for tunnel ignus or not really. if the deck works like its supposed to i'll only need at least 2 dragons to hit the field in order for it to be GG, if the ramp works quick enough i might have 3 out before valakut can kill me. its a gamble though.
As for chain reaction, noooooo. Good for field wipe but I would have to limit how far I can do it. Mimic Vat however is a plus, I might add a couple of those. it'd help with Hoard-Smelter and Igniter's abilities.
I wasn't sure if Pyretic Ritual would be good in this deck or not, I just knew it existed for the time being.
Yeah Skittles, i agree. I think i'll make it 2 of both.
i own 1 Sarkhan and he's already in my extended dragons. I don't want to splash into other colors if I can help it as I want this deck to be a mono-red artifact type.
I think you should drop each dragon to a three of instead of four. You do not want to be drawing them that much. Try running Pyroclasm and Slagstorm main deck for the board removal. Main problem I see is that when they resolve a titan before you resolve a dragon. Maybe try red sun zenith to solve titan problem?
hmm, i agree. At most i'll only be playing 1 dragon a turn so I don't need 4 of each of them, so I'll drop them down to 3. I have 4 pyroclasms now and only 1 slagstorm so I might put in 3 pyroclasms...hmm, maybe not that many either. 2 pyroclasms and 2 red suns?
Edit: So far 4x Koth of the Hammer is the most expensive stuff in this deck, he'll probably be the last things I end up getting So, in case I can't get ahold of those, any other substitues?
This might be a bad idea since the card i'm about to mention is horrible, but why not run chandra ablaze! ^^ since you run 4x magma phoenix you can potentally deal 4 every turn with her 1st ability. but i don't know lol there's a reason why no one's played her ever i sopose. but i like this deck alot and i'll probrably make my own version of it. can you explain in more detail on the match-ups you did during the daily as i would like more insight in to the deck.
sorry to burst your hate bubble on chandra but I play her, and I play her a lot. She's a great card if you know what your doing with it and anytime I play her I become the central target.
2x Tar Pitcher
4x Kathari Bomber
4x Goblin Arsonist
4x Mudbutton Torchrunner
Spells:
4x Raid Bombardment
4x Boggart Shenanigans
4x Boggart Birth Rite
4x Fodder Launch
4x Dragon Fodder
2x Fireblast
2x Mortarpod
2x Sylvok Lifestaff
Lands:
10x mountain
10x swamp
4x Mountain
2x Lust for war
1x Carnage Altar
2x Furnace Celebration
4x Slavering Nulls
2x Goblin Tunner
This deck has gone 7-0-3 in my group and its been fun to play. once it gets going its hard to stop. its not a multiplayer deck though thats for sure.
Let me know your thoughts on it, good or bad.
I have now acquired 2 Mordant Dragons. Thoughts on putting those in the deck?
As for Inferno Titan and Wurmcoil engine. Good cards, not wanted in this deck. Besides, baneslayer only stops 1 dragon, not all of them. I agree about the blast vs bolt though. I wasn't sure which one to put in really so I might SB the Blast and MD the bolt.
As to wether or not i can beat valakut/PT. I don't know yet. I haven't playtested the deck. I own right now hardly any of the cards, well, the dragons, So i'll have to do extensive testing online via MWS. Maybe, if the deck works right, yes I can beat it. If Mordant Dragon is in it then I can kill PT and effectively or almost neuter Valakut but thats if I'm not neutered first. As I said its a gamble.
I actually replaced Iron Myr for Palladium because Palladium generated 2 and I have nothing but mountains in the deck, save for 2 tectonic edges. Yes, while you may wish to put in titan or engine, I have stated already that I don't like doing what everyone else is doing. Where is the fun in that? the skill? there isn't.
Pyretic Ritual already has been removed. It got replaced with 2 tectonic edges.
Then I direct you to the Red Sun's Zenith in the deck.
you sure about Mordant dragon? I've never really had a warm spot for it honestly, mostly cause it was 3 red and 3 others. In a mono deck its not that bad but i've just never been a fan of it. It might help, but it only counts if i can hit the opponent with it. I'd say I'd sideboard a couple of Mordant's rather then Main them. And i'll swap out 2 Pyretics for 2 Tectonic Edges.
Maybe, if someone wanted to run that list. But that is not the list I wish to run, my list is the list i wish to run. I prefer my own style not those of others.
Enjoy the suggestion though regardless.
Edit: Yes i understand theres two posts. THe one above was done BEFORE Goblin with a Gun posted. We posted at the same time and his showed up before mine.
As for chain reaction, noooooo. Good for field wipe but I would have to limit how far I can do it. Mimic Vat however is a plus, I might add a couple of those. it'd help with Hoard-Smelter and Igniter's abilities.
Yeah Skittles, i agree. I think i'll make it 2 of both.
hmm, i agree. At most i'll only be playing 1 dragon a turn so I don't need 4 of each of them, so I'll drop them down to 3. I have 4 pyroclasms now and only 1 slagstorm so I might put in 3 pyroclasms...hmm, maybe not that many either. 2 pyroclasms and 2 red suns?
-1 Steel Hellkite
-1 Hellkite Igniter
-1 Hoarding Dragon
-1 Hoard-Smelter Dragon
+2 Pyroclasm or Slagstorms
+2 Red Sun's Zenith
Edit: So far 4x Koth of the Hammer is the most expensive stuff in this deck, he'll probably be the last things I end up getting
sorry to burst your hate bubble on chandra but I play her, and I play her a lot. She's a great card if you know what your doing with it and anytime I play her I become the central target.