- Coma White
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Oct 3, 2011Coma White posted a message on Solar FlareReally, what does it matter? I can do whatever I like with my blog. And I suppose you're entitled to post whatever you like, provided it adheres to the guidelines of the forum. But really, what's the point? Of trolling random forum blogs, no matter their nature? It's silly, and it paints you in a fairly poor light. Lambaste people where it counts, at the very least.Posted in: Coma White Blog
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Oct 2, 2011Coma White posted a message on Solar FlareActually, this was really just a note to myself regarding the Solar Flare deck I'm currently testing. The blog allows me to make changes on the fly, online, without having to dig for the deck list on-file. You're not compelled to read my blog, nor anyone else's.Posted in: Coma White Blog
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Lol, have fun turn two playing a card that doesn't do anything and then being smashed by Delver of Secrets.
To begin, B/W tokens should be better than G/W. I believe it is, which is why I'm writing this post. However, it should be based on the tokens deck which has already been proven to be effective. Using G/W tokens as a shell, we shall see what happens when Green is replaced with Black, taking into account what each color provides the deck.
The two most powerful cards and, in my view, the two most important cards the deck loses with Green are Garruk Relentless and Gavony Township. Other Green cards, like Avacyn's Pilgrim and Birds of Paradise are incidental to Green; they are effective in their narrow roles no matter what deck they're placed in (assuming, of course, said deck plays proactively enough to utilize their ramping capacities). Both aforementioned Green power cards may be replaced with Sorin, Lord of Innistrad and Vault of the Archangel, respectively (both of which are arguably more powerful than those cards they replace). So, by dissecting the Green element of the deck, we are left with the White shell, which we are already familiar with and does not bear repetition in this post.
Below is my sample counter-list:
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Vault of the Archangel
11 Plains
5 Swamp
Creatures: 19
4 Accorder Paladin
4 Doomed Traveler
2 Geist-Honored Monk
4 Hero of Bladehold
3 Mirran Crusader
2 Mikaeus, the Lunarch
3 Doom Blade
2 Elspeth Tirel
4 Lingering Souls
2 Midnight Haunting
2 Oblivion Ring
3 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1 Sword of War and Peace
Omissions:
Gather the Townsfolk: Two mana for two 1/1s at Sorcery speed is bad. This card is just too weak for Standard play. The Fateful Hour trigger is irrelevant.
Intangible Virtue: This card is also bad. It gives you absolutely no value without other things on the board. Cards that don't provide value in and of themselves just don't cut it, especially in a proactive deck like this one. Pass on this.
Shrine of Loyal Legions: I could see this as a strong choice against slower decks, like Solar Flare or Grixis, but it just doesn't cut it main board. It's too slow, and doesn't actually do anything when it hits the board.
Why play Black as opposed to Green? Lingering Souls. Seriously, this is pretty much the only reason. And it's a really good reason. This card is amazing. Arguably better than Spectral Procession, which was a true shaker in its time. Also, Vault of the Archangel is more swingy than Gavony Township.
Why would you cut Liliana of the Veil for Ghost Quarter?
Chapin would say otherwise.
Really though, is our U/B match-up so bad? I don't have much experience playing against the deck, but on paper it seems as though we take the proactive role. We have Unburial Rites. We have Liliana of the Veil. Hell, landing the latter seems almost unrecoverable for a deck like U/B, which has no way of dealing with it if it resolves. We have Oblivion Ring, which is probably the greatest "oh crap" answer ever printed.
Help me out here. Does U/B just counter everything? Can it really keep up with the virtual card advantage Unburial Rites provides?
Erm, no, that's not really the right idea. Mana Leak is good because it hits both creatures and spells. Removal is not the same thing. It doesn't substitute for counters.
There always seems to be one of these at every FNM, regardless of how competitive a given meta is.
As for my own experience; I won't go into too many details, but it involved a deck with over 100 cards in it.