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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    No, but seriously, we should just ignore CC.

    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Vote: CropCircles

    There would be notification of a block per the mods. There are still a few far fetched scenario's I can come up with that make CC town, but none I believe.
    Just out of curiosity, what would those far-fetched scenarios be?

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    My objection to ending day was predicated on the idea that people would actually post. We've had 18 posts in the last 24 hours, and 5 of those posts were from CC.

    Hopefully the weekend will get things to pick up, but if they don't, I'm comfortable ending day.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from CropCircles42 »
    There isn't one.

    Which is why we should run up another suspect and possibly get a claim.
    Or we could just mass roleclaim.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from Ampharos »
    i would strongly suggest we avoid talking about spewclears until after the flip, and i'm somewhat side-eyeing the fact that you'd bring it up
    Yeah, especially since we'd then have a nightkill to give us further information.

    FOS: Grape for this and wanting to end day quickly.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Yeah, for me it's either Proph/Cayvie, I put them in the same tier, and then Axelrod.

    Vaimes!!!!!!!!!!
    Vaimes!!!!!!!!!!
    Why him above anyone else?
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from CropCircles42 »
    ITT: I'm ignoring Highroller
    Rude.

    Quote from Prophylaxis »
    I agree with Grape mostly wrt all of this
    Who's shocked?


    I object to ending day immediately because it always benefits the mafia to end day as quickly as possible once one of their own is outed. The less posts you make, the less people have to scrutinize later.

    Here's my idea for a fun party game: we all answer the question, "Based on the events of the game so far, should CC flip mafia, who should we lynch next?"

    Take the time to get caught up before answering, goodness knows I need to give the thread a thorough reread.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    That's what I thought. So does CropCircles claiming friendly neighbor mean he's a neighbor targeted by a neighborizer?

    Or is it totally unrelated to that, and "Friendly Neighbor" is referring to the give-someone-else-inspection thing?
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Ok, what the hell is a "neighborizer," then?
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Sorry, rereading the thread.

    I just need a clarification on something: CropCircles, what is your role and who did you target last night, again?
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    17 minutes before deadline. Someone cast the seventh vote, please. We need a lynch.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from Axelrod »
    Well, that wasn't nice short and easy to read bullet points, was it. :p
    I made a 1-2-3 bullet point post earlier in the thread, and then quoted it again. The only way I can make it more obvious is to repeat it more.

    Quote from Axelrod »
    Quote from Highroller »

    And ZDS has never let up. This was on page 2. Look at how ridiculous that vote is. Imagine believing that complete lack of evidence holds sufficient weight to maintain a vote on CC for the rest of the day.
    So, I would agree with this, except for the part where CC immediately voted ZDS back, and has also never let up since. I would not agree that ZDS's initial reasons for voting are all that there is. You're mischaracterizing it when you say that.
    I love how you haven't read the thread and need events to be explained to you until it you have read the thread and disagree with the explanations. Nothing disingenuous there.

    ZDS has never posted a single argument all day that has made any sense. His reasoning for voting CC is terrible. The reasons for the bandwagon have been terrible when they haven't just been straight-up nonexistent like Jackrito.

    Yet here you are saying, "This bandwagon is very fair and I'm happy to be a part of it."

    You wouldn't even vote ZDS when it was a choice between ZDS and no one at all. I'm not going to bother indulging you at this point. I spent more than enough time in the Debate forum to recognize someone posting in bad faith vs. someone with actual intellectual curiosity. If you were actually willing to listen on the case against ZDS, you would have when I freaking outlined it for you.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from Axelrod »
    Highroller: I know you've been pushing it for awhile. Can you summarize (in nice short and easy to read bullet points) why ZDS?
    I'm going to be honest, I have a hard time believing this is being asked in good faith, given that you were at the spot of "fourth best lynch choice" prior to these past few hours due to your large percentage of posts not really saying anything, and this stunt of ensuring no lynch could be made based on the previous deadline clinches your spot at three, and you've been trying to figure out why I'm voting for ZDS for most of the day when I made this post explaining the situation in bullet points:
    Quote from Highroller »
    When people won't vote for ZDS despite the every single post he's made being either:

    1. Completely wrong
    2. Repeating something someone else has said
    3. Refusing to address criticism against a post or posts that are either wrong or something someone else has said
    I will add being obviously lynchhungry against CropCircles.

    Quote from ZeDorkSlipeur »

    Right now I want to Vote: CropCircles42.

    Quote from CropCircles42 »
    Well this game is moving a lot faster than I expected. I'm not familiar with most of the players here, so this should be interesting.
    This game is slow as a snail during a heatwave by the standards of any MTGS era. Shrugs
    Quote from CropCircles42 »
    Initial thoughts: I think nothing of the supposed claims and posting restrictions, or whatever is going on there. I don't think anything can be gleaned from that. I think the early pile on ZDS was a bit unwarranted, and subsequently a bit sus. I'm also not a fan of of Prophylaxis calling attention to low posters so early. Seems like planting seeds early to justify votes later.

    That's all I got for now.
    These are vague and safe non-stances ("the early pile on ZDS was a bit unwarranted", "not a fan of Prophylaxis calling attention to low posters so early"), which he turns into potential votes later on ("subsequently a bit sus", "planting seeds early to justify votes later").
    And no the irony of accusing him of doing what he's accusing Proph of doing is not lost on me. But there's my second issue with this post: whereas Proph is experimenting by looking for lurkers too early and is ******* up as a result, CC hides carefully in a dark corner and seems to mostly focus on not ******* up. To bring back the digestive track, Proph had guts, CC has none.

    It may only be a single post but it's far more worth pursuing than any of the current wagons IMO.
    CropCircles makes a first post with some cursory analysis, and ZDS jumps on him because CC's stances aren't strong enough. In a first post describing one's initial thoughts. Seriously. It was the guy's first post.

    And ZDS has never let up. This was on page 2. Look at how ridiculous that vote is. Imagine believing that complete lack of evidence holds sufficient weight to maintain a vote on CC for the rest of the day.


    The thing is, all of the early CC votes are terrible.

    Quote from Prophylaxis »
    Quote from CropCircles »
    Initial thoughts: I think nothing of the supposed claims and posting restrictions, or whatever is going on there. I don't think anything can be gleaned from that. I think the early pile on ZDS was a bit unwarranted, and subsequently a bit sus. I'm also not a fan of of Prophylaxis calling attention to low posters so early. Seems like planting seeds early to justify votes later.

    That's all I got for now.


    @Axelrod/ZDS/Highroller I guess: This is probably useless to ask, but do you guys know how CropCircles played back in the day? He was way before my time and I know that he was the originator of many MTGS memes (I think like Daykill loran16 or someething was attributed to him IIRC, but I can't remember).

    Kind of side-eyeing this post? Like if you're not a fan of me, why not actually vote me and interrogate me rather than like soft-accuse me like you did here?

    His post feels overdefensive and I don't really see a reason why he thinks ZDS is scum in his counter-post.

    Unvote
    Vote CropCircles
    He already said why, Prophylaxis. It's an initial thoughts post. Calm the hell down.

    And voting ZDS after his pouncing on CropCircles makes perfect sense. I would have voted for him. His reasons for voting were terrible.

    Add this to yet another reason why Prophylaxis running around ZDS Stan-ing makes no sense.

    Then Jackrito is just blatant bandwagoning, just like every other thing Jackrito did:

    Quote from Jackrito »
    I have the most reasons to vote here all 3 of the top wagons are good atm though based off current content. DK and JT are too low content to be valid trains just yet imo.

    vote : CropCircles42

    There you go. Aren't you just inspired?

    These are just objectively terrible votes. Anyone who doesn't have any suspicion of the CC bandwagon needs to focus up.

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    Also, I wanted to highlight this post just to showcase how freaking easy it is to turn ZDS's arguments back on him:

    Quote from ZeDorkSlipeur »
    (This is in reaction to Vaimes, but directed at everyone)
    CropCircles as a designated misyeet does not make sense. His wagon has been moving much too slow for that to be the case. He is at most the designated not-me yeet (everyone voting him is either me or townreading me), which makes him the counter-wagon to the OG designated misyeet (me).

    From there, two possibilities:
    - CC is scum and his buddies have either given up on him or are struggling to get a counter-counter-wagon going.
    - CC is town and scum are happy with the results no matter what happens.

    Now, the above should make sense to people town-reading me. On the other hand to people scum-reading me, CC should be a martyr in the making.
    This is just blatant to WIFOM, and is a terrible argument in and of itself, but I just love it because we haven't been able to get a ZDS lynch even when, prior to second deadline extension, it was clear it was between ZDS vs. no lynch at all.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Thanks Rhand!



    Quote from Prophylaxis »
    Blagh

    Wish CC claimed earlier so we wouldn't be in this spot

    Will vote in :55 assuming votes haven't changed
    He said, never actually doing so.

    Would anyone unwilling to vote ZDS be willing to vote Proph? We need a lynch, guys.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from Rhand »
    Quote from Axelrod »
    Quote from Highroller »
    Request for deadline to be postponed 6 hours.
    Well, I'll Second the request, for what that's worth.

    Ehh this is a late request :/
    I don’t think I can grant this.
    It's been thirded?

    And would be more fun?

    And sad Psyduck eyes? What... what..? what.


    Quote from cayvie »
    What are the votes at? I'm in on mobile
    ZDS - 4
    CropCircles - 4
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from Prophylaxis »
    I'll move to zds to avoid a no lunch
    So do that!

    You have 15 minutes!
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from Axelrod »
    Quote from Highroller »
    Request for deadline to be postponed 6 hours.
    Well, I'll Second the request, for what that's worth.
    Dude, vote!

    Quote from Rhand »
    Deadline is in 1,5 hours from now. If no majority is reached, the Day will end in no lynch.
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