MTG Salvation

Quote from Yomako

I wish they had the decency to do that here...

You don't know what cold is. The record low for the entire UK is -27.2°C; that's over the last 200+ years. We see that on a weekly basis throughout the entire winter.

Gotta say, I'm glad I /out'd for this one. I followed along a bit and... yeah. Endless Day 1's! Hoora!

This thread is pretty wacky. We've got moderators as taser-weilding cops and infractions are now murder. Awesome.

This issue is pretty simple. Simple enough that you don't need crazy analogies. Here you go!
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Quote from Wildfire393

Trading is a privilege of being in good standing on this site.

That's pretty much all there is to it. I personally don't want to trade with people who aren't in good standing because they've got less to lose if they do rip someone off.

Yeah, you don't even have to know the name in any language. So long as you can describe the card in enough detail that it uniquely identifies the card, you're good. A judge would always help you with this process.

"Meddling Mage naming that red instant that costs 1 red mana and deals three damage" is just as good as saying "Meddling Mage naming Lightning Bolt."

My Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker ran a ton of Threaten effects. Running a bunch of sac outlets gets more value from your tokens anyway, so sac'ing their guys after Threaten is just a bonus. Stealing your opponents' good EtB guys (Sylvan Primordial) lets you kill enchantments in mono-red too (by copying the Threatened guy with Kiki-Jiki).

This deck was around before Prime Time got banned though. Damn was that powerful.

Legions was apparently a bad book. Scourge was also. Never read them myself (nor had I heard that acronym until today), but they're basically universally derided for trampling all over continuity. For that reason, most choose to ignore any storyline implications from those novels.

Quote from BorgMan

The fact that the Eldrazi are bound to Zendikar is a Hedron thing. They can't be destroyed and resummoned because they can't leave the plane. An RFG effect would cause their whole being to desintigrate: not just their body, but their soul (as far as they have one) as well. Also, because of the Hedrons, Memnarch's soul traps probably can't fetch an Eldrazi soul (see above) either.

Okay, sure. Let's say I agree with all of the above. Do you think a simple spell like Disintegrate is going to be enough to beat them? I'm not saying that they can't be RFG'd, just that regular run-of-the-mill exile spells simply aren't going to be enough to deal with them. Three oldwalkers couldn't beat them. They surely tried a Swords to Plowshares...

Quote from BorgMan

On a side note: what would happen if Karn would implant the powerstones into an Eldrazi? Would Glacian's essence kind of take over the body? Would it try to reason with the Eldrazi mind (as far as it has one)?

Probably they would suck the mana from the powerstones, thank Karn for the appetizer, then eat him as the main course. Not sure where you're getting the idea that the two stones have the ability to control someone's mind...

Bolas did release them, though we don't yet know why. Probably because he can dodge whatever plane they're on so long as they're running loose (so why should he care?). When he finally wants to use them, he ought to be a good enough blood mage (like Sorin) to lure them to whatever plane he wants to destroy (Kamigawa?).

Anyway, on removing from the game, the flavour is much different depending on the card. Mostly it's either because the body gets disintegrated so there's nothing left to go to the graveyard or they're sent into some kind of purgatory. I don't think RFG effects would be especially useful against the Eldrazi as far as the storyline is concerned.

It was ambiguous. I can't remember the wording (it was in the final act of the Eldrazi webcomic if you want to check), but I remember it being clear that if Ugin is alive, he's no longer imprisoned by Bolas.

EDIT: "Because I know where Ugin lays. I put him there myself, not so long ago."

Not as ambiguous as I remembered! He's probably dead. If not, imprisoned - but the way Bolas goes on to talk about Ugin's secrets implies he can't exctract more information from the spirit dragon.

Interesting question. I've never really been able to imagine an actual image. For example, I can't even bring up an image of my wife's face (whether in front of me or behind my eyes), though I could give you a detailed description. What nebulous "visual" imaginings I can bring up are clearly behind my eyes rather than in front of me, but it's always very abstract (though the thoughts surrounding the abstract visuals might be quite detailed).

Through training, I am able to "see" lines that I want to draw and imagine how they would look before putting them on paper. But I still can't just have my mind throw the entire image up for me. I have to go through the process of "drawing" those lines, one by one, and seeing how it'll look. This thread has given me insight into why I'm 100% able to reproduce an image or object that's in front of me, but completely unable to draw something from nothing. I think something's wrong with me.

Quote from Yomako

Stardust, your avatar likes walking

It's a pretty sophisticated gif. If you watch it for about an hour, you'll notice that the background does slowly move behind the walking stickman.

I like to imagine that if you watched it long enough he would eventually free himself from the endless desert, but we all know that not all stories have happy endings.

Quote from vligerdragon

Stardust, I love you. That was amazing.

I know, right! Dinner With Andrea is my favourite of the short stories. "By the end of Act One of this private little torture-porn movie, I was confessing to every unsolved crime in history. Praying I would stumble upon the one that would satisfy my invisible captors."

If you want a laugh, check out these reviews for some sugarfree gummy bears. There's some good storytelling in there. You won't be disappointed.

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Quote from hairlessThoctar

The problem with that is that some artifacts are way too stinking big for that to work.
Darksteel Forge for instance.

Yep. The thought had crossed my mind, but I don't really like the idea of someone summoning a forge that size either. I'll just stick with my original answer of storyline/game-play segregation.

Storyline/game-play segregation, I guess. If I had to take a stab, the planeswalkers bring the artifacts with them and use mana to charge them, making them ready to use.

It's not that I don't think it could be done, just that we've never seen it. Dozens of references exist in MTG lore for summoning creatures. Dozens of references exist for building artifacts. None exist for summoning artifacts.

In any case, even if we did agree that artifacts are summoned, the info we've got on the Eldrazi makes it pretty explicit that they're different from anything we've ever seen. Artifacts use mana to operate (or to summon them, if you like). The Eldrazi exist outside the confines of normal mana. They're both colourless, but one is the absence of colour and the other is any colour. Does that make sense?