Thank you, that clear up my misunderstanding. I thought Chain of Vapor was making a copy of the target it bounced, not of CHain of Vapor itself. My bad!
1) If you use all the effect and bounce it in your hand, I heard it reset it and you can use all the good effects (those who dont make you lose the game) all over again. Is that true?
2) If the only remaining choice you have is Lose the game, can you bounce it back in your hand before your upkeep, copy the card by sacrificing a land, can I give the enchantement to a new target?
Thank you for your reply. It have being enlightening!
I decided to go with a other deck after all. If I use a Black/White deck, I'll buy the " Call the spirit " commander deck as a start and work my way from there, like buying the God of Passage (one of the newest cards I just love) and put Stonecloaker in there...
As for my Modern deck, I went for a monk themed white/blue deck I have being recommended. It gave me a feels of the chinese fantasy light novels Im reading. Went with a budget version that still costed me a lot because of transition to canadian money... but Im not regretting it so far. Im waiting with anticipation for the delivery
-4 commune with nature. it's not really adding anything to your deck that harbringer and leaf-crowned can't do better. plus the treefolk can hit nameless inversion
not conviced on unstoppable ash either but that's more a personal choice.
Commune with nature help getting Treefolk Harbinger, a essential piece for the deck to work or Unstoppable Ash if its already in play (those two work SOOO well together LOL) or any other treefolk I might need at any point in the game. And since its put the rest at the bottom of my library, I dont care if I draw Treefolk Harbinger. The deck rely on the monster synergy so its good to draw them as soon as possible.
Would something like Slagwurm Armor help?
Slagwurm Armor could help and doesnt cost much, I might put it in the sidedeck but I think Unstoppable Ash do that job even better AND can be summoned thanks toTreefolk Harbinger and even more by Leaf-Crowned Elder . And Timber Protector make my treefolk indestructable. I doesnt really add anything in the deck synergy but can help a lot at the beggining of the game.
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If you think Im still missing something or Its not enough competitive, just tell me... or else I will think my deck is ULTIMATE! MOUHAHAHAHA!
Harbinger can fetch any treefolk, Nameless Inversion, and he can fetch Murmuring Bosk.
Doran is basically a 5/5 for 3 mana, can't beat that.
Leaf-Crowned Elder is an all-star in this deck, gives you card advantage.
Nameless Inversion counts as a treefolk for anything that concerns it. Also, it helps with combat tricks when Doran is out, as you can give an opponent's creature +3/-3, but if Doran is out, it's basically like giving them -3/-3 since they deal less damage.
Unearth is used to bring back Doran as everyone will target him.
Interesting! This deck is way faster than most Treefolk deck! And its basicly down to the enssential cards too. Its good, I admit. Im even having a hard time making a sidedeck for it since it sound so complete!
Im thinking adding Insist and Defense of the Heart in the sidedeck, if they can be played together. Just as a reminder (havent played for a while, dont "sigh" too much), I can play Sorcery spell during my upkeep?
OH!!! Chameleon Colossus is a particulary neat idea btw!!! I will be adding Raking Canopy too (good with Doran) but Im thinking if Hurricane would be a good adding to the deck...
And if Im on a budget? Beside, its not really a treefolks deck, I want most of my creatures to be Treefolks (I thinks thats what you meant by Tribal right?). With maybe Cloud Key to make them easier to play? Doran, the Siege Tower is Awesome! Definitly need it!
Is there a combo with treefolks card? I dont know, Doran, the Siege Tower and a defender or wall maybe?
I been searching for the base of one but so far, we told me a treefolk deck is not competitive enough yet. So I want to surprise them and make a real competitive one
I made the number of cards 61 since I wanted two Lotus Flower
Removed Cloudstone Curio since not as useful in this deck as he can be. Would be better with Flash creature and cretures that have effect on the battle field,. A shame...
Added Fiery Justice to my sidedeck, just in case with Forbidden Orchard to play irt. The two other have are too costly in mana or it have MAY in them, I want to impose the gain of life point to my opponent
Me, I didnt keep any the cards I had. I wanted to make a comeback after seeing the Quillspike combo, but Im scared about the rotating thing. Every kind of deck pr combo become trash when the news cards come, Its so depressing when it happens, I almost forgot that feeling
I was wondering about the combo of Chain of Vapor and Demonic Pact. I have several questions:
1) If you use all the effect and bounce it in your hand, I heard it reset it and you can use all the good effects (those who dont make you lose the game) all over again. Is that true?
2) If the only remaining choice you have is Lose the game, can you bounce it back in your hand before your upkeep, copy the card by sacrificing a land, can I give the enchantement to a new target?
I decided to go with a other deck after all. If I use a Black/White deck, I'll buy the " Call the spirit " commander deck as a start and work my way from there, like buying the God of Passage (one of the newest cards I just love) and put Stonecloaker in there...
As for my Modern deck, I went for a monk themed white/blue deck I have being recommended. It gave me a feels of the chinese fantasy light novels Im reading. Went with a budget version that still costed me a lot because of transition to canadian money... but Im not regretting it so far. Im waiting with anticipation for the delivery
Commune with nature help getting Treefolk Harbinger, a essential piece for the deck to work or Unstoppable Ash if its already in play (those two work SOOO well together LOL) or any other treefolk I might need at any point in the game. And since its put the rest at the bottom of my library, I dont care if I draw Treefolk Harbinger. The deck rely on the monster synergy so its good to draw them as soon as possible.
Slagwurm Armor could help and doesnt cost much, I might put it in the sidedeck but I think Unstoppable Ash do that job even better AND can be summoned thanks toTreefolk Harbinger and even more by Leaf-Crowned Elder . And Timber Protector make my treefolk indestructable. I doesnt really add anything in the deck synergy but can help a lot at the beggining of the game.
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If you think Im still missing something or Its not enough competitive, just tell me... or else I will think my deck is ULTIMATE! MOUHAHAHAHA!
02 Unstoppable Ash
03 Treefolk Harbinger
03 Bosk Banneret
04 Doran, the Siege Tower
04 Leaf-Crowned Elder
04 Timber Protector
02 Orchard Warden
02 Squall Line
03 Oblivion Ring
03 Nameless Inversion
04 Commune with Nature
02 Unearth
04 Terramorphic Expanse
10 Forest
4 Swamp
2 Plains
Heres the explainations:
The simpler and quick deck of meteorainer was what I was looking for. I added Unstoppable Ash which have a good synergy with Doran, the Siege Tower, Orchard Warden the deck and Squall Line to attack if my creature cannot and good against flyers.
If I can, will probably replace Oblivion Ring with Duress
For the sidedeck, probably snakeform, guttural response, Chameleon Colossus and some cards maybe against enchantement
You think it will be good enough?
Interesting! This deck is way faster than most Treefolk deck! And its basicly down to the enssential cards too. Its good, I admit. Im even having a hard time making a sidedeck for it since it sound so complete!
Any thought for the sidedeck?
Im thinking adding Insist and Defense of the Heart in the sidedeck, if they can be played together. Just as a reminder (havent played for a while, dont "sigh" too much), I can play Sorcery spell during my upkeep?
OH!!! Chameleon Colossus is a particulary neat idea btw!!! I will be adding Raking Canopy too (good with Doran) but Im thinking if Hurricane would be a good adding to the deck...
And if Im on a budget? Beside, its not really a treefolks deck, I want most of my creatures to be Treefolks (I thinks thats what you meant by Tribal right?). With maybe Cloud Key to make them easier to play? Doran, the Siege Tower is Awesome! Definitly need it!
Is there a combo with treefolks card? I dont know, Doran, the Siege Tower and a defender or wall maybe?
How should I do it?
And to NOODLE: Cloudstone Curio doesnt affect artefact creature
I added Summoner Pact, Dark Ritual, False Cure, Dragonskull Summit and Lightning Grease to the deck.
I made the number of cards 61 since I wanted two Lotus Flower
Removed Cloudstone Curio since not as useful in this deck as he can be. Would be better with Flash creature and cretures that have effect on the battle field,. A shame...
I like Fling and cost less than Soul's Fire. Rite of Consumption is a sorcery and doesnt match with False Cure while Fling is a instant.
If I sacrifice Murderous Redcap with Fling, he does come back with Persit right? And with Land Grant, I can go search for a Overgrown Tomb and Overgrown Tomb can be used as swamp for Dragonskull Summit ???
I figured out that if I have Defense of the Heart, I can bring two creature combo to play to make either the Quillspike combo or Kavu + shyshroud cutter, I love this card
Fling enter in action to make sure my opponent dont destroy it without losing his lifepoint.
I dont know much about Magic, played along time ago, please be kind
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3 Murderous Redcap
4 Kavu Predator
4 Skyshroud Cutter
2 Devoted Druid
2 Quillspike
Spells 22
1 Reverent Silence
4 Summoner Pact
3 Dark Ritual
3 False Cure
3 Fling
2 Invigorate
4 Land Grant
2 Defense of the heart
2 Lotus Petal
2 Lightning Grease
1 Sensei's Divining Top
Lands 18
2 Terramorphic Expanse
3 Grove of the Burnwillows
2 Forbiddance Orchard
4 Forest
3 Dragonskull Summit
4 Overgrown Tomb
2 Crumble
2 Snakeform
3 Raking Canopy
3 Guttural Response
2 Reverent Silience
Added Fiery Justice to my sidedeck, just in case with Forbidden Orchard to play irt. The two other have are too costly in mana or it have MAY in them, I want to impose the gain of life point to my opponent
EDIT: added Crumble to sidedeck
I want to make the deck as low cost as possible.
2 Wall of Blossoms
2 Troll Ascetic
4 Kavu Predator
4 Skyshroud Cutter
Planeswalker
1 Sharkan Vol
3 Dark Ritual
3 Needlebite Trap
4 Duress
4 False Cure
2 Invigorate
4 Land Grant
3 Reverent Silence
4 Summoner's Pact
2 Lotus Petal
1 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Cloudstone Curio
Lands
2 Terramorphic Expanse
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
4 Forest
4 Marsh
3 Raking Canopy
4 Guttural Response
4 Forbidden Orchard
4 Fiery Justice