Thank u for your suggestion since i have all 4 funeral charms already i'm going to include it and i ordered the deck just now (happy guy).A question how good would it be to cast buried alive to dump sharuum, p. metamorph and another artifact beater in the yard to bring them all to play via reanimate? Oh yeah nvm since sharuum is legendary it doesnt work
If you have any Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth it combos nicely with Funeral charm
I was planning on playing Scooze in the sideboard, but I'll consider him for the main. Chalice can be sweet, especially if you get it out T1 with Spirit guide
and in terms of list being aggressive, that's what I am aiming for. I am going to try to play a modern tourny with this or a similar list this week. I'll report back after
That RUG build looks pretty fun, I'd probably run some Bolts and reduce the Faithless as I don't think you need 4 FL and 3 Commune. Definitely want some removal main deck beside flame jab. I dont have any blue fetches shocks, or filters otherwise I'd try a list like that too
The problem with Fiend is that if you delve him in for a lot, you will not be able to use his ability much.
Here's the list I'm trying, still very raw. I know you guys think I'm crazy but I really want to play Eidolon in a non burn deck and I think this has potential.
Tombstalker is still probably the best delve creature available if you wanted to go that route. Fiend is probably a close second, however, with assault loam we really are more focused on getting assault online and using some retrace spells to abuse life from the loam as much as possible. In the RuG lists treasure cruise is definitely a great add. For the Jund lists, tombstalker is definitely the best option if you want to delve a creature onto the battlefield.
Tombstalker is better than Hooter, but he is harder to cast. 6 delve vs 5 delve and BB vs G. There is no way Necrop Fiend is better than Hooting Mandrills. I think I might try something like 3 Hooters and 1 Tombstalker. Has anyone tried Pack Rat as a beater?
idolon is a game shortening card. I can only seeing that being more hindering than helpful. I second everyone else's opinion that Tombstalker is better than Hooting Mandrils in a Jund list.
I've played a few games with it on cockatrice, and having Eidolon and Seismic Assault online at the same time is really really good. Even if you take 2 dmg to loam each turn your damage potential is huge.
I'm thinking if you wanted to build with cruise that running commune with the gods could be a decent dig card that helps turn on cruise. It's what? 4 cards in the bin when all is said and done
Edit: 5 cards including the commune that goes to the bin. You have essentially paid for the cruise at that point.
I was thinking about Commune with the build I mentioned since it can grab Eidolon or Seismic Assault while filling the yard. Definitely worth trying.
I am trying to pull together a Jund list that uses Eidolon of the Great Revel and Hooting Mandrills instead of the regular beaters. Still very much a work in progress but I feel like it could be a good new take on it
I would probably drop witness for another decay in the main deck. Two mountains is probably unnecessary I would go with a second swamp. Switch foothills to catacombs so all your fetches can grab swamp if you are in a heavy blood moon meta.
I figured Red was the most important colour with Seismics and Crushers. I guess black for the discard and Lilianas?
Hey all, I have been working on a Jund assault loam list. Looking for any feedback you might have, especially with the mana base. I want to try a Countryside Crusher variant.
Good aggro creature, but I feel like legacy burn doesn't want more creatures. Goblin Guide + Eidolon are the core, and part of what makes burn so strong is making a lot of cards (removal, etc) in your opponents hands dead cards
Hidden Herd: I can't help but think of it as a green Delver of Secrets
Stifle: It's so often a blowout in RUG, and using it in other Delver decks could be great with the element of surprise.
Misdirection: Making people Thoughtseize themselves never gets old, and it (if you have a pitch card) can double as a Force of Will. Abrupt Decay is another card to use this on.
I really like Hidden Gibbons as well. NOt many legacy decks that don't play instants Eyes of the wisent is another similar one I have toyed with Jund SB for against blue decks, since it pumps Goyfs +2 for tribal and enchantment if it hits the yard
Not a D&T player, but have been thinking about slowly building it. Came across this guy: Glowrider and wondered why he isn't in any lists? 3 mana too much for the Thalia effect?
http://cubetutor.com/viewcube/2252
So I have been making a 4C/2U/1R Modern Master's cube. It started out as just cards from MMA that I had from drafts/sealeds I played as a way to keep playing the format once the supply dried up. I removed most big $$ cards and cards that aren't great in draft. Right now it is a 540 cube with packs being 11C 3U 1R/M.
Now recently, I have been looking for cards to add improve the cube and fit in existing archetypes. I have added a Rogue archetype, that has a lot of overlap with Goblins/Faeries, along with some cards that I thought would be good fits. I still need to balance out the colours some more (Blue being the lowest #, Black the highest) as well. I am also looking at swapping Elspeth KE with Elspeth Tirel, since Elsepth seems to be overpowered in this cube. I also found Storm was hard to pull off, so I am testing with 4 Desperate Rituals instead of 2, and I added a few more Arcane spells
So I am looking for more suggestions on good cards to add that would improve the cube, or cards to cut, etc. Any suggestions are welcome Thanks in advance!
Yep, I won game 1 despite mulliganing to 4, and games 2 and 3 were both easily mine had I not played so terribly.
My friend got the Junk Depths together, and through last week's tourney and some testing games my Jund has gone 9-0 vs it so far. My singleton Beast Within has been pretty great for responding to Hexmage-Depths activation.
If you have any Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth it combos nicely with Funeral charm
and in terms of list being aggressive, that's what I am aiming for. I am going to try to play a modern tourny with this or a similar list this week. I'll report back after
The problem with Fiend is that if you delve him in for a lot, you will not be able to use his ability much.
Here's the list I'm trying, still very raw. I know you guys think I'm crazy but I really want to play Eidolon in a non burn deck and I think this has potential.
2 Blackcleave Cliffs
2 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
1 Fire-Lit Thicket
1 Gemstone Mine
1 Ghost Quarter
2 Graven Cairns
1 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Mountain
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Raging Ravine
1 Stomping Ground
1 Swamp
1 Tectonic Edge
1 Treetop Village
3 Wooded Foothills
2 Slaughter Pact
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Raven's Crime
2 Commune with the Gods
3 Life from the Loam
1 Terminate
3 Seismic Assault
CREATURES (15)
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
2 Pack Rat
2 Countryside Crusher
2 Ghor-Clan Rampager
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
3 Hooting Mandrills
1 Tombstalker
I've played a few games with it on cockatrice, and having Eidolon and Seismic Assault online at the same time is really really good. Even if you take 2 dmg to loam each turn your damage potential is huge.
I was thinking about Commune with the build I mentioned since it can grab Eidolon or Seismic Assault while filling the yard. Definitely worth trying.
I figured Red was the most important colour with Seismics and Crushers. I guess black for the discard and Lilianas?
4x Dark Confidant
4x Tarmogoyf
3x Countryside Crusher
1x Eternal Witness
1x Pack Rat
Spells (22)
3x Abrupt Decay
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
3x Raven's Crime
2x Flame Jab
1x Maelstrom Pulse
4x Life From the Loam
3x Seismic Assault
3x Liliana of the Veil
1x Blackcleave Cliffs
2x Blood Crypt
3x Bloodstained Mire
1x Copperline Gorge
1x Fire-Lit thicket
1x Forest
2x Ghost Quarter
2x Graven Cairns
1x Lavaclaw Reaches
2x Mountain
1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Raging Ravine
1x Stomping Ground
1x Swamp
1x Treetop Village
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3x Wooded Foothills
I really like Hidden Gibbons as well. NOt many legacy decks that don't play instants
Eyes of the wisent is another similar one I have toyed with Jund SB for against blue decks, since it pumps Goyfs +2 for tribal and enchantment if it hits the yard
http://cubetutor.com/viewcube/2252
So I have been making a 4C/2U/1R Modern Master's cube. It started out as just cards from MMA that I had from drafts/sealeds I played as a way to keep playing the format once the supply dried up. I removed most big $$ cards and cards that aren't great in draft. Right now it is a 540 cube with packs being 11C 3U 1R/M.
Now recently, I have been looking for cards to add improve the cube and fit in existing archetypes. I have added a Rogue archetype, that has a lot of overlap with Goblins/Faeries, along with some cards that I thought would be good fits. I still need to balance out the colours some more (Blue being the lowest #, Black the highest) as well. I am also looking at swapping Elspeth KE with Elspeth Tirel, since Elsepth seems to be overpowered in this cube. I also found Storm was hard to pull off, so I am testing with 4 Desperate Rituals instead of 2, and I added a few more Arcane spells
So I am looking for more suggestions on good cards to add that would improve the cube, or cards to cut, etc. Any suggestions are welcome Thanks in advance!
http://cubetutor.com/viewcube/2252
[spoiler=Cube List]
1x Amrou Scout
1x Amrou Scout
1x Amrou Scout
1x Amrou Scout
1x Kataki, War's Wage
1x Kithkin Greatheart
1x Kithkin Greatheart
1x Kithkin Greatheart
1x Kithkin Greatheart
1x Veteran Armorer
1x Veteran Armorer
1x Veteran Armorer
1x Veteran Armorer
1x Amrou Seekers
1x Amrou Seekers
1x Amrou Seekers
1x Amrou Seekers
1x Avian Changeling
1x Avian Changeling
1x Avian Changeling
1x Avian Changeling
1x Flickerwisp
1x Flickerwisp
1x Saltfield Recluse
1x Saltfield Recluse
1x Saltfield Recluse
1x Saltfield Recluse
1x Hillcomber Giant
1x Hillcomber Giant
1x Hillcomber Giant
1x Hillcomber Giant
1x Meadowboon
1x Meadowboon
1x Pallid Mycoderm
1x Pallid Mycoderm
1x Pallid Mycoderm
1x Pallid Mycoderm
1x Cloudgoat Ranger
1x Cloudgoat Ranger
1x Reveillark
1x Adarkar Valkyrie
1x Yosei, the Morning Star
1x Ivory Giant
1x Ivory Giant
1x Ivory Giant
1x Ivory Giant
White Planeswalker
1x Elspeth, Knight-Errant
White Artifact Creature
1x Court Homunculus
1x Court Homunculus
1x Court Homunculus
1x Court Homunculus
1x Ethersworn Canonist
1x Sanctum Gargoyle
1x Sanctum Gargoyle
1x Sanctum Gargoyle
1x Sanctum Gargoyle
White Artifact
1x Dispeller's Capsule
1x Dispeller's Capsule
White Instant
1x Path to Exile
1x Path to Exile
1x Otherworldly Journey
1x Otherworldly Journey
1x Otherworldly Journey
1x Otherworldly Journey
1x Test of Faith
1x Test of Faith
1x Test of Faith
1x Test of Faith
1x Blinding Beam
1x Blinding Beam
1x Blinding Beam
1x Blinding Beam
1x Gleam of Resistance
1x Gleam of Resistance
1x Gleam of Resistance
1x Gleam of Resistance
1x Stir the Pride
1x Stir the Pride
White Sorcery
1x Terashi's Grasp
1x Terashi's Grasp
1x Cenn's Enlistment
1x Cenn's Enlistment
1x Cenn's Enlistment
1x Cenn's Enlistment
1x Feudkiller's Verdict
1x Feudkiller's Verdict
White Enchantment
1x Bound in Silence
1x Bound in Silence
1x Bound in Silence
1x Bound in Silence
Blue Creature
1x Mothdust Changeling
1x Mothdust Changeling
1x Mothdust Changeling
1x Mothdust Changeling
1x Spellstutter Sprite
1x Spellstutter Sprite
1x Spellstutter Sprite
1x Spellstutter Sprite
1x Pestermite
1x Pestermite
1x Pestermite
1x Pestermite
1x Scion of Oona
1x Faerie Harbinger
1x Faerie Harbinger
1x Glen Elendra Archmage
1x Latchkey Faerie
1x Latchkey Faerie
1x Latchkey Faerie
1x Latchkey Faerie
1x Meloku the Clouded Mirror
1x Mulldrifter
1x Mulldrifter
1x Riftwing Cloudskate
1x Riftwing Cloudskate
1x Aethersnipe
1x Aethersnipe
1x Aethersnipe
1x Aethersnipe
1x Keiga, the Tide Star
1x Vedalken Dismisser
1x Vedalken Dismisser
1x Errant Ephemeron
1x Errant Ephemeron
1x Errant Ephemeron
1x Errant Ephemeron
Blue Artifact Creature
1x Etherium Sculptor
1x Etherium Sculptor
1x Etherium Sculptor
1x Etherium Sculptor
1x Esperzoa
1x Esperzoa
1x Faerie Mechanist
1x Faerie Mechanist
1x Faerie Mechanist
1x Faerie Mechanist
Blue Instant
1x Reach Through Mists
1x Reach Through Mists
1x Reach Through Mists
1x Reach Through Mists
1x Consuming Vortex
1x Consuming Vortex
1x Dampen Thought
1x Dampen Thought
1x Dampen Thought
1x Dampen Thought
1x Echoing Truth
1x Echoing Truth
1x Echoing Truth
1x Echoing Truth
1x Peer Through Depths
1x Peer Through Depths
1x Peer Through Depths
1x Peer Through Depths
1x Perilous Research
1x Perilous Research
1x Perilous Research
1x Perilous Research
1x Thirst for Knowledge
1x Thirst for Knowledge
1x Traumatic Visions
1x Traumatic Visions
1x Traumatic Visions
1x Traumatic Visions
1x Logic Knot
1x Logic Knot
1x Logic Knot
1x Logic Knot
Blue Sorcery
1x Ideas Unbound
1x Ideas Unbound
1x Petals of Insight
1x Petals of Insight
Blue Enchantment
1x Take Possession
1x Take Possession
[spoiler=Black]Black Creature
1x Festering Goblin
1x Festering Goblin
1x Festering Goblin
1x Festering Goblin
1x Nightshade Stinger
1x Nightshade Stinger
1x Nightshade Stinger
1x Nightshade Stinger
1x Prickly Boggart
1x Prickly Boggart
1x Prickly Boggart
1x Prickly Boggart
1x Blightspeaker
1x Blightspeaker
1x Blightspeaker
1x Blightspeaker
1x Rathi Trapper
1x Rathi Trapper
1x Rathi Trapper
1x Rathi Trapper
1x Auntie's Snitch
1x Auntie's Snitch
1x Deepcavern Imp
1x Deepcavern Imp
1x Deepcavern Imp
1x Deepcavern Imp
1x Ghostly Changeling
1x Ghostly Changeling
1x Mad Auntie
1x Mad Auntie
1x Stinkweed Imp
1x Stinkweed Imp
1x Stinkweed Imp
1x Stinkweed Imp
1x Thieving Sprite
1x Thieving Sprite
1x Thieving Sprite
1x Thieving Sprite
1x Marsh Flitter
1x Marsh Flitter
1x Earwig Squad
1x Street Wraith
1x Street Wraith
1x Street Wraith
1x Street Wraith
1x Warren Pilferers
1x Warren Pilferers
1x Warren Pilferers
1x Warren Pilferers
1x Kokusho, the Evening Star
1x Skeletal Vampire
1x Tombstalker
1x Executioner's Capsule
1x Executioner's Capsule
Black Instant
1x Peppersmoke
1x Peppersmoke
1x Peppersmoke
1x Peppersmoke
1x Drag Down
1x Drag Down
1x Drag Down
1x Drag Down
1x Horobi's Whisper
1x Horobi's Whisper
1x Violet Pall
1x Violet Pall
1x Violet Pall
1x Violet Pall
1x Death Rattle
1x Death Rattle
Black Sorcery
1x Raven's Crime
1x Raven's Crime
1x Raven's Crime
1x Raven's Crime
1x Warren Weirding
1x Warren Weirding
1x Warren Weirding
1x Warren Weirding
1x Syphon Life
1x Syphon Life
1x Syphon Life
1x Syphon Life
1x Morsel Theft
1x Morsel Theft
1x Morsel Theft
1x Morsel Theft
1x Noggin Whack
1x Noggin Whack
1x Absorb Vis
1x Absorb Vis
1x Absorb Vis
1x Absorb Vis
1x Death Cloud
Red Creature
1x Rift Elemental
1x Rift Elemental
1x Rift Elemental
1x Rift Elemental
1x Mogg War Marshal
1x Mogg War Marshal
1x Mogg War Marshal
1x Mogg War Marshal
1x Stingscourger
1x Stingscourger
1x Stingscourger
1x Stingscourger
1x Blind-Spot Giant
1x Blind-Spot Giant
1x Blind-Spot Giant
1x Blind-Spot Giant
1x Countryside Crusher
1x Grinning Ignus
1x Grinning Ignus
1x Stinkdrinker Daredevil
1x Stinkdrinker Daredevil
1x Stinkdrinker Daredevil
1x Stinkdrinker Daredevil
1x Hammerheim Deadeye
1x Hammerheim Deadeye
1x Hammerheim Deadeye
1x Hammerheim Deadeye
1x Tar Pitcher
1x Tar Pitcher
1x War-Spike Changeling
1x War-Spike Changeling
1x War-Spike Changeling
1x War-Spike Changeling
1x Giant Harbinger
1x Giant Harbinger
1x Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1x Thundercloud Shaman
1x Thundercloud Shaman
1x Thundering Giant
1x Thundering Giant
1x Thundering Giant
1x Thundering Giant
1x Ryusei, the Falling Star
1x Sunrise Sovereign
1x Greater Gargadon
Red Instant
1x Brute Force
1x Brute Force
1x Brute Force
1x Brute Force
1x Crush Underfoot
1x Crush Underfoot
1x Crush Underfoot
1x Crush Underfoot
1x Desperate Ritual
1x Desperate Ritual
1x Desperate Ritual
1x Desperate Ritual
1x Fury Charm
1x Fury Charm
1x Glacial Ray
1x Glacial Ray
1x Glacial Ray
1x Glacial Ray
1x Shrapnel Blast
1x Shrapnel Blast
1x Sudden Shock
1x Sudden Shock
1x Fiery Fall
1x Fiery Fall
1x Fiery Fall
1x Fiery Fall
Red Sorcery
1x Lava Spike
1x Lava Spike
1x Lava Spike
1x Lava Spike
1x Grapeshot
1x Grapeshot
1x Grapeshot
1x Grapeshot
1x Tribal Flames
1x Tribal Flames
1x Rift Bolt
1x Rift Bolt
1x Rift Bolt
1x Rift Bolt
1x Empty the Warrens
1x Empty the Warrens
1x Empty the Warrens
1x Empty the Warrens
1x Molten Disaster
Green Creature
1x Thallid
1x Thallid
1x Thallid
1x Thallid
1x Thallid Shell-Dweller
1x Thallid Shell-Dweller
1x Thallid Shell-Dweller
1x Thallid Shell-Dweller
1x Woodland Changeling
1x Woodland Changeling
1x Woodland Changeling
1x Woodland Changeling
1x Eternal Witness
1x Eternal Witness
1x Golgari Brownscale
1x Golgari Brownscale
1x Golgari Brownscale
1x Golgari Brownscale
1x Nantuko Shaman
1x Nantuko Shaman
1x Nantuko Shaman
1x Nantuko Shaman
1x Psychotrope Thallid
1x Psychotrope Thallid
1x Thallid Germinator
1x Thallid Germinator
1x Thallid Germinator
1x Thallid Germinator
1x Greater Mossdog
1x Greater Mossdog
1x Greater Mossdog
1x Greater Mossdog
1x Imperiosaur
1x Imperiosaur
1x Imperiosaur
1x Imperiosaur
1x Masked Admirers
1x Masked Admirers
1x Penumbra Spider
1x Penumbra Spider
1x Penumbra Spider
1x Penumbra Spider
1x Sporesower Thallid
1x Sporesower Thallid
1x Giant Dustwasp
1x Giant Dustwasp
1x Giant Dustwasp
1x Giant Dustwasp
1x Sporoloth Ancient
1x Sporoloth Ancient
1x Sporoloth Ancient
1x Sporoloth Ancient
1x Durkwood Baloth
1x Durkwood Baloth
1x Durkwood Baloth
1x Durkwood Baloth
1x Jugan, the Rising Star
1x Verdeloth the Ancient
1x Walker of the Grove
1x Walker of the Grove
1x Walker of the Grove
1x Walker of the Grove
1x Woodfall Primus
1x Echoing Courage
1x Echoing Courage
1x Echoing Courage
1x Echoing Courage
1x Krosan Grip
1x Krosan Grip
1x Reach of Branches
1x Reach of Branches
1x Sylvan Bounty
1x Sylvan Bounty
1x Sylvan Bounty
1x Sylvan Bounty
Green Sorcery
1x Life from the Loam
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Search for Tomorrow
1x Search for Tomorrow
1x Search for Tomorrow
1x Search for Tomorrow
1x Rude Awakening
1x Tromp the Domains
1x Tromp the Domains
Green Enchantment
1x Moldervine Cloak
1x Moldervine Cloak
1x Moldervine Cloak
1x Moldervine Cloak
1x Doubling Season
Dimir
1x Oona, Queen of the Fae
1x Mind Funeral
1x Mind Funeral
Rakdos
1x Murderous Redcap
1x Murderous Redcap
Gruul
1x Sarkhan Vol
1x Manamorphose
1x Manamorphose
Selesnya
1x Kitchen Finks
1x Kitchen Finks
1x Knight of the Reliquary
Orzhov
1x Tidehollow Sculler
1x Tidehollow Sculler
Golgari
1x Maelstrom Pulse
1x Worm Harvest
1x Worm Harvest
Simic
1x Trygon Predator
1x Trygon Predator
Izzet
1x Electrolyze
1x Electrolyze
Boros
1x Figure of Destiny
1x Lightning Helix
1x Lightning Helix
Colourless Artifact Creature
1x Arcbound Worker
1x Arcbound Worker
1x Arcbound Worker
1x Arcbound Worker
1x Arcbound Ravager
1x Arcbound Stinger
1x Arcbound Stinger
1x Arcbound Stinger
1x Arcbound Stinger
1x Epochrasite
1x Epochrasite
1x Myr Retriever
1x Myr Retriever
1x Etched Oracle
1x Etched Oracle
1x Frogmite
1x Frogmite
1x Frogmite
1x Frogmite
1x Skyreach Manta
1x Skyreach Manta
1x Skyreach Manta
1x Skyreach Manta
1x Arcbound Wanderer
1x Arcbound Wanderer
1x Arcbound Wanderer
1x Arcbound Wanderer
1x Myr Enforcer
1x Myr Enforcer
1x Myr Enforcer
1x Myr Enforcer
Colourless Artifact
1x Paradise Mantle
1x Paradise Mantle
1x Aether Spellbomb
1x Aether Spellbomb
1x Aether Spellbomb
1x Aether Spellbomb
1x Bonesplitter
1x Bonesplitter
1x Bonesplitter
1x Bonesplitter
1x Pyrite Spellbomb
1x Pyrite Spellbomb
1x Pyrite Spellbomb
1x Pyrite Spellbomb
1x Runed Stalactite
1x Runed Stalactite
1x Runed Stalactite
1x Runed Stalactite
Colourless Land
1x Academy Ruins
1x City of Brass
1x Dakmor Salvage
1x Dakmor Salvage
1x Glimmervoid
1x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Vivid Crag
1x Vivid Crag
1x Vivid Creek
1x Vivid Creek
1x Vivid Grove
1x Vivid Grove
1x Vivid Marsh
1x Vivid Marsh
1x Vivid Meadow
1x Vivid Meadow
My friend got the Junk Depths together, and through last week's tourney and some testing games my Jund has gone 9-0 vs it so far. My singleton Beast Within has been pretty great for responding to Hexmage-Depths activation.