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  • posted a message on Are lands added to the pool considered lands in the battlefield?
    Also, note that if you had 3 Vernal Bloom in play, each Forest taps for 4 mana, not 3. One from the Forest normally tapping, then 1 more for each Vernal Bloom.
    Posted in: Magic Rulings
  • posted a message on P1P1 Discussion: Post your packs!
    I'd take Jace here. Tinker and Demonic Tutor are close, but sometimes you don't get there with p1p1 Tinker, and Jace is a sure-thing that I know I'd play in any deck. If I were to cast DT, I can't imagine that I'd DT for anything better than Jace anyway.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread
    I would laugh if I ever see a game where Rofellos gets hit by Condemn. Also, Rofellos is incredible. Can't really say much else besides that.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on [[SCD]] Raven's Crime
    When I still ran Gifts Ungiven, I enjoyed the Raven's Crime, Life from the Loam and 2 lands pile. Definitely slow and grindy, but a nice thing for UBG decks to build toward. When I cut Gifts, Raven's Crime and Loam went with it.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Copying spells - how does it work for enchantments?
    Mirrorwing Dragon's ability only triggers for instant and sorcery spells. It does not trigger for Enchantments, creatures, artifacts, or planeswalkers.
    Posted in: Magic Rulings
  • posted a message on [MCD] - Lifegain
    Sphinx's Revelation
    Who - the lifegain is the worst mode here, but it's an option.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on This or That discussion.
    Yeah, I'd keep both Thirst and Shelldock. The other cards you mentioned all seem like fine choices.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Magma spray and dieing
    The arbor elf is dealt 2 damage from Shock, and goes to it's owner's graveyard. The Magma Spray is countered due to having no legal targets. None of the text on Magma Spray applies now -- it doesn't deal damage, and it doesn't cause anything to be exiled.
    Posted in: Magic Rulings
  • posted a message on Kalitas + displacer
    Yes, you'll get the token. Displacer's ability resolves before your removal, exiling and returning Kalitas. Then the removal resolves. Kalitas is on the battlefield, so the triggered ability replacement effect happens, giving you a token.

    edit: re-read Kalitas, it's not a triggered ability.
    Posted in: Magic Rulings
  • posted a message on Finishing out my 93/934 cube...is it worth it to buy cards right now?
    My unpowered 1994 cube (180 cards) cost me less than $100 to put together less than a year ago. Of course, it could have been a bit more if I didn't want to use Chronicles versions. In any case, outside of Power, Duals, and things like Juzam Djinn, there's not a lot of expensive cards. I wouldn't expect any of those cards to go up or down in value. The cards that do have value, I'd expect them to retain value or increase.

    edited side note: I just re-checked the price of my cube. Apparently, Master of the Hunt jumped up majorly. A few other cards have risen a bit, too. I wonder if the Old School format being added to GP side events is the cause. I suppose if that format takes off, to expect more price rises, and if it doesn't maybe some decrease.
    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread
    I was sad when I cut Gifts, I always tell myself that one day I'll bring it back. Outside of Unburial Rites, one of my favorite piles was Life from the Loam + Raven's Crime. Academy Ruins + Life from the Loam + Mindslaver/Engineered Explosives is another fun one. Snapcaster Mage can also do fun things with Gifts. I don't think Gifts is good enough to run if just using it to tutor for 4 good cards, and get the 2 worst ones, but it also doesn't need to be an "I win" button to only be combined with Unburial Rites. You just need to be able to build around it where it doesn't matter which cards the opponent gives. Unfortunately, as a 4cmc blue spell, even having the option to build those piles, I couldn't justify keeping it at a small cube size.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Toothy questions
    Toothy, Imaginary Friend
    Vedalken Orrery
    Leyline of Anticipation
    Pir, Imaginative Rascal
    Quote from Beleg »
    First question seems like something I should know, but I'm a bit fuzzy on. If Toothy leaves play while you have an Orrey or Leyline of Anticipation, can you respond to the draw trigger by recasting him? Ex: if he got bounced or returned to the command zone, would he already be there to cast again, or would the draw effect need to resolve first?

    Yes, this works. The leaves the battlefield trigger will be on the stack, you can respond to that trigger by casting Toothy, then resolve Toothy and the trigger, which will trigger the +1/+1 counter granting ability.

    Second: "If enough -1/-1 counters are put on Toothy at the same time to make its toughness 0 or less, the number of +1/+1 counters on it before it got any -1/-1 counters will be used to determine how many cards you draw. For example, if there are two +1/+1 counters on Toothy and it gets three -1/-1 counters, you’ll draw two cards."
    -My understanding is that -1/-1 counters first negate +1/+1 counters. So if Toothy had two +1/+1 counters and then got three -1/-1 counters I thought the proper way to handle that would be remove the two counters, then the third one causes him to die with no counters.

    +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters negate each other as part of state-based actions. Creatures go to the graveyard as part of state-based actions, as well. See the following rule:
    704.7 If a state-based action results in a permanent leaving the battlefield at the same time other state-based actions were performed, that permanent’s last known information is derived from the game state before any of those state-based actions were performed.
    Posted in: Magic Rulings
  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread
    I'm a fan of Mystic Snake. I find it always plays better than it looks.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Is it legal to loop to a certain outcome?
    That is not a legal shortcut, and considered slow play, as simply adding mana is not a meaningful advancement of the boardstate (as opposed to if everytime you discarded dakmor salvage, it did 1 damage to a player). See this thread for a similar combo ruling:

    https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/magic-rulings-archives/682320-4-horsemen-situations

    edit: Skirge Familiar may qualify as a meaningful andvancement of the board after re-reading that thread, so it may not be slow play. Still can't be a shortcut, though.
    Posted in: Magic Rulings
  • posted a message on [bdd][cube] fumble
    Fumble plays really well against Treachery and Control Magic, which made me consider it for a second when I first saw it, but I don't think there's enough Auras and Equipment in cube to justify it.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
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