Seriously, though, M:TG history is filled with this. Early examples include the Stuffy Doll, Ron Spencer hiding his friends' names in all of his art, Onulets = Soul Net, etc.
Probably already mentioned somewhere in this gigantic thread, but it's definitely a cunning way to insert Moxen and other cards into MTGO, assuming that the distribution carries over.
If this is the case, I wonder what the actual total number of an individual Moxen would end up being (online) after Zendikar goes out of print.
No vintage cards are being inserted into MTGO boosters, confirmed earlier in the thread.
I just realized another thing. If Wizards wanted to do something like this, in all likelihood they wouldn't have distributed way old cards, much less acquire them from the secondary market.
Wizards would have probably used cards from FTV: Dragons, FTV: Exiled, the foil planeswalkers/rares from the duel decks, the participation cards of GPs and PTs, old and new judge foils and maybe some old, hard to find FNM cards.
Using these would have had the same WOW 0MG effect, at a fraction of the cost.
I think the idea is that there was no cost - Wizards has a supply of the old product in their vault. It could have been collated into the Zendikar print run.
This is, literally, one of the absolute worst analogies I have EVER seen.
I mean honestly. It's like you threw a rock at THE GROUND..and missed.
LMAO
QFT
Um, quick edit to avoid a spam infraction: It has been mentioned before that the existing supply of Zendikar is almost gone from distributors. If they had to print more, do you think they would continue to insert the "treasures", or would that have been an initial prerelease gimmick? Curious as to what people who know more about this think.
or you can channel fireball someone turn 1 in a prerelease, omg haxx
<.<;
(fireball gets countered by mindbreak trap, you lose FTW)
Maybe if it was a Revised prerelease. As has been posted numerous times here already, the cards are not legal in formats outside their original printing. Please read the thread.
Having it start a couple of days before the pre-release doesn't give people the chance to change plans and go to a pre-release and doesn't give people a good amount of time to start pre ordering lots of boxes/cases.
Except if it gives them a much-needed boost in sustained sales post-prerelease weekend, then this makes a TON of sense. Unless we knew what their sales trend data looks like we won't be able to speculate on that potential motivator.
Such odds would make Mythic Rares seem downright common. How hard would it be to acquire a playset of Candelabra of Tawnos for MTGO at this rate, given that this would be the only way of getting them?
You're assuming there are even enough of them out there to MAKE playsets. I'd doubt that's true.
Like I said in the previous thread, I personally have spoken to (now a bunch of) people who have opened around 200+ packs between em.
And nothing.
I want to believe, I really do, but with all of the people I know who have seen packs opened, done drafts already, opened boxes (and often cases) themselves already, who have also seen all of the set displayed in folders, read the 'guide to Zendikar' etc, no one, not one has mentioned this sort of thing happening.
It'd be awesome let me tell you . . . and . . .
I want to believe.
Mulder.
We don't know what the distribution model is. This could be so exceedingly rare that it follows probability that we have not seen it yet.
Or does Wizards have a way of segregating boxes? Maybe the majority of the "treasures" are for opening at prereleases, or distribution later once the story is out? It would be a genius way to move more product once the initial buzz is worn out.
This is excellent. I am now back to my previously hopeful stance of it being true. I have to wonder whether or not the same rules will apply to MTGO? If so, that is a very sneaky way of potentially getting Power in before MED 4 or 5.
2. If the set is designed as a large set to be playable/draftable on its own, it could be a great starting point for new players, especially if it minimizes complexity in favor of basic effects and interactions as well as being supported through events and marketing push. This set would have been designed during the "Year of Acquisition" corporate goal for Wizards I believe.
Having said that, I want to believe that the twist will be Sengir/Ulgrotha and to reveal the name now would give away the plot twist payoff.
TEH NUGGETZ
Seriously, though, M:TG history is filled with this. Early examples include the Stuffy Doll, Ron Spencer hiding his friends' names in all of his art, Onulets = Soul Net, etc.
No vintage cards are being inserted into MTGO boosters, confirmed earlier in the thread.
Sucks, I'm only online these days, no paper.
Now, if they replicate this on MTGO.... NOW we're talking.
Assuming this why?
I think the idea is that there was no cost - Wizards has a supply of the old product in their vault. It could have been collated into the Zendikar print run.
LMAO
QFT
Um, quick edit to avoid a spam infraction: It has been mentioned before that the existing supply of Zendikar is almost gone from distributors. If they had to print more, do you think they would continue to insert the "treasures", or would that have been an initial prerelease gimmick? Curious as to what people who know more about this think.
Maybe if it was a Revised prerelease. As has been posted numerous times here already, the cards are not legal in formats outside their original printing. Please read the thread.
Congrats on orchestrating a DDOS attack on magicthegathering.com.
Except if it gives them a much-needed boost in sustained sales post-prerelease weekend, then this makes a TON of sense. Unless we knew what their sales trend data looks like we won't be able to speculate on that potential motivator.
You're assuming there are even enough of them out there to MAKE playsets. I'd doubt that's true.
Mulder.
We don't know what the distribution model is. This could be so exceedingly rare that it follows probability that we have not seen it yet.
Or does Wizards have a way of segregating boxes? Maybe the majority of the "treasures" are for opening at prereleases, or distribution later once the story is out? It would be a genius way to move more product once the initial buzz is worn out.
Well said. This thread is going to be impossible to follow in a few more hours.
1 in 8000000000000000000000000
You have to admit though - this would have been an UNBELIEVABLE idea from Wizards.
1. Muraganda has been shown to have a vanilla/basic thing going on. (Based on Imperiosaur/Muraganda Petroglyphs)
2. If the set is designed as a large set to be playable/draftable on its own, it could be a great starting point for new players, especially if it minimizes complexity in favor of basic effects and interactions as well as being supported through events and marketing push. This set would have been designed during the "Year of Acquisition" corporate goal for Wizards I believe.
Having said that, I want to believe that the twist will be Sengir/Ulgrotha and to reveal the name now would give away the plot twist payoff.
Kar-Sengir ... Zendikar?