OK well I've slept and now it's morning in my part of the world. How was your final round? Did you win? I'm guessing you were a lock for day 2 which is sweet
it was 9 rounds day 1, 6 rounds day 2 so yup i made day 2. in fact 6-3 and above made day 2.
Edit:
Just got 26th out of 617 at the SCG Milwaukee Open with BTL Black Scapeshift. Woohoo!
Congrats! Exciting to hear
I've got a Modern No Ban List coming up. I've thought about jamming a lot of things and then thought, why not jam a MNBL Scapeshift Deck. I'm thinking traditional RUG with some good cantrips and seeing my friend Dig through Time again. Any thoughts on what to modify from some of the traditional builds? Bolt any good in a No ban list meta ya think?
Well despite me 2-0ing infect twice this weekend it's a scary matchup and with blazing shoal legal you'll see more infect in no banlist modern meta. Bolt helps against that but not sure what you'd take out. a bolt version of scapeshift is very different from mine. I'll post a link to my list once scg posts them but I'll link to my reddit post that is pretty close to up to date and ive got a lot of info there
I like to think I'm getting up there in the Veteran Status of playing Scapeshift, and a true advocate for BTL-White. I literally thought I'd give this a shot to try cause I have a State Champ thing coming up. First League, 5-0, First Time I've 5-0ed (Many 4-1s with BTL-W). I think I'll be ordering my Damnation and Maelstrom Pulse tonight :)!
I'm glad you enjoyed my list. I may have only started playing the deck last month but I'm a quick study and am 31-7-1 in matches and in non-tournament matches I've won most of my testing. My only thoughts on the main deck are:
Do I go back up to 4 fetches to raise back up the liklihood of being able to suspend search on turn 1? If so do I cut
Cinder Glade
Flooded Grove
Blood Crypt
Watery Grave
I like having 11 Mountains b/c I drew them a lot but I feel like I need 1 more way to access green mana on turn 1. The rest of the main has been working out great. There are more options for the sb but so far I'm really enjoying it. Please lmk thoughts I might go to Indy, not sure yet. My wife wants me to stay and do a garage sale...
OK well I've slept and now it's morning in my part of the world. How was your final round? Did you win? I'm guessing you were a lock for day 2 which is sweet
it was 9 rounds day 1, 6 rounds day 2 so yup i made day 2. in fact 6-3 and above made day 2.
Edit:
Just got 26th out of 617 at the SCG Milwaukee Open with BTL Black Scapeshift. Woohoo!
Congrats! Exciting to hear
I've got a Modern No Ban List coming up. I've thought about jamming a lot of things and then thought, why not jam a MNBL Scapeshift Deck. I'm thinking traditional RUG with some good cantrips and seeing my friend Dig through Time again. Any thoughts on what to modify from some of the traditional builds? Bolt any good in a No ban list meta ya think?
Well despite me 2-0ing infect twice this weekend it's a scary matchup and with blazing shoal legal you'll see more infect in no banlist modern meta. Bolt helps against that but not sure what you'd take out. a bolt version of scapeshift is very different from mine. I'll post a link to my list once scg posts them but I'll link to my reddit post that is pretty close to up to date and ive got a lot of info there
OK well I've slept and now it's morning in my part of the world. How was your final round? Did you win? I'm guessing you were a lock for day 2 which is sweet
it was 9 rounds day 1, 6 rounds day 2 so yup i made day 2. in fact 6-3 and above made day 2.
Edit:
Just got 26th out of 617 at the SCG Milwaukee Open with BTL Black Scapeshift. Woohoo!
i'd say Keranos, god of storms is a safe bet in the sideboard against the slower matchups. I've tended to win fairly consistently after casting him, regardless of the opponent.
also although many players will side out removal against you after game 1, i'm still not sure that Phyrexian Revoker is as good a card as Pithing Needle in this case. revoker works well in multiples, and in a tempo shell where you can put a significant clock on your opponent before they find removal. here, he just becomes a target for whatever answers your opponent couldn't afford to side out. oh -and pithing needle works on lands, while revoker doesn't (although revoker can shut off mana dorks which is relevant)
i'd also recommend batterskull. most people won't expect it, and you'll often have the mana to use its bounce-replay ability. it's also just another card to bring in against burn, which is never a bad thing.
query: how has glen elendra archmage been going for you? I always found it a tad too slow, because many of the "control" decks in the format actually have a respectable clock from goyfs, scooze, tasigur or whatever other threat they are running. would be interesting to hear your insight on this card.
also question to the thread: huntmaster of the fells... worth it? sideboard? i've seen winners at tournaments running a spicy 4x tarmogoyf in the sideboard to switch the deck up into a rug tempo deck and i am stoked by this idea. really excellent deck design. what about the huntmaster though?
I've only used Glen Elendra once today and countered a search spell from RG tron.
Huntmaster has been sweet. Helped me today v BU Faeries
Ya, the tarmoshift decks were exciting but BTl is amazing
I'm 7-2 at SCG Milwaukee:
R1 - Lost 1-2 to rg goblins
R2 - Won 2-0 v kiki-chord
R3 - Won 2-0 v Jund
R4 - Won 2-1 v UB faeries
R5 - Lost 0-2 v Instant Reanimator
R6 - Won 2-1 v RG tron
R7 - Won 2-0 v Burn
R8 - Won 2-1 v Zoo
R9 - won 2-1 v RG tron
Any constructive discussion would be appreciated. I've only got about 26 matches under my belt with the deck.
My maybe board has consisted of tons are cards including but not limited to:
Pia and K
izzet staticaster
teferia, mage of zhalfir
olivia voldaren
inferno titan
putting back in the slaughter games
swan song
notion thief
putting back in the melira
night of souls betrayal
4th baloth
3rd anger
previously had back to nature
polukranos
sower of temptation
pryoclasm
slagstorm
thragtusk
grafdigers cage
putting back in pithing needle
engineered explosives
prismatic omen
Looks like boxes are consistently at $224 now. Dangit I knew I should have waited. I'm not going to buy any more boxes until I either get an ebay bucks multiplier or they go under $210 including shipping.
It's easy to cancel preorders. If the seller gives you a hard time, you simply go through your CC processor and file a chargeback, and they take the cash out of the sellers account nearly every time and give it back to you. That's why I use my CC for big ticket items, it's another layer of protection for me. Just pay the balance off when you get the bill and it's no biggie.
And when the set turns out to be amazing, and the business decided to cancel your preorder it's understandable.
We have the same join date. I see you also participated in the mass exodus.
i remember getting a box of mma1 at coolstuffinc for 199. should be able to get this for less. since we've already seen 24 boxes go for 195 each including shipping on ebay yesterday, 6 boxes just sold at 229.95 on ebay (free ship) and you can get them for $234 including ship on ebay now (one guy is accepting 233 obo, b/c that's what he countered my offer with).
im holding out for 190 a box i think
I don't think you'll see $190 a box prior to release. If there's a surplus of supply afterward, maybe. The dude at $195 is crazy, just because one person sells at $195 doesn't mean that's where the market is. There's a reason every single box went in 31 minutes... because it was a great deal. I'd bet if you listed boxes at $225 right now, you'd sell them pretty quick too.
If anything, current market conditions show extraordinary demand in the $230 and under region. I think $200/box, if you go the preorder route, is a good target price.
I don't disagree with anything you said tbh . I think anything $210 or under right now is probably a good buy price. 6 boxes just sold quickly at $229.95 each supporting what you said. i think as people see cheaper completed auctions though prices will come down. i'm not going to buy at 230. i might buy at 210 still at least a box.
After all it was that drama that led us to move from mtgnews to here :-p
Yes, I necroed a thread to amuse myself. I figure some of the old timers should get to have fun before the site implodes :-P
I'm glad you enjoyed my list. I may have only started playing the deck last month but I'm a quick study and am 31-7-1 in matches and in non-tournament matches I've won most of my testing. My only thoughts on the main deck are:
Do I go back up to 4 fetches to raise back up the liklihood of being able to suspend search on turn 1? If so do I cut
Cinder Glade
Flooded Grove
Blood Crypt
Watery Grave
I like having 11 Mountains b/c I drew them a lot but I feel like I need 1 more way to access green mana on turn 1. The rest of the main has been working out great. There are more options for the sb but so far I'm really enjoying it. Please lmk thoughts
Opponents got confused when I cast my search from tomorrow and said "Storm count 1"
Edit: I hit Nick Miller up on twitter and he got it fixed quickly.
Well despite me 2-0ing infect twice this weekend it's a scary matchup and with blazing shoal legal you'll see more infect in no banlist modern meta. Bolt helps against that but not sure what you'd take out. a bolt version of scapeshift is very different from mine. I'll post a link to my list once scg posts them but I'll link to my reddit post that is pretty close to up to date and ive got a lot of info there
https://www.reddit.com/r/spikes/comments/4h1flx/modern_scapeshift_bring_to_light_input_requested/
Edit: List is up except the messed up and put a dragonstorm instead of a damnation lol
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=102500
it was 9 rounds day 1, 6 rounds day 2 so yup i made day 2. in fact 6-3 and above made day 2.
Edit:
Just got 26th out of 617 at the SCG Milwaukee Open with BTL Black Scapeshift. Woohoo!
I've only used Glen Elendra once today and countered a search spell from RG tron.
Huntmaster has been sweet. Helped me today v BU Faeries
Ya, the tarmoshift decks were exciting but BTl is amazing
I'm 7-2 at SCG Milwaukee:
R1 - Lost 1-2 to rg goblins
R2 - Won 2-0 v kiki-chord
R3 - Won 2-0 v Jund
R4 - Won 2-1 v UB faeries
R5 - Lost 0-2 v Instant Reanimator
R6 - Won 2-1 v RG tron
R7 - Won 2-0 v Burn
R8 - Won 2-1 v Zoo
R9 - won 2-1 v RG tron
https://www.reddit.com/r/spikes/comments/4h1flx/modern_scapeshift_bring_to_light_input_requested/
Hey. Picked up Scapeshift 2 weeks ago and am running the BTL Package. I've had several 4-0 at local events and went 4-1-1 at states getting 9th on tie-breakers (ffffff).
I've talked about it some in the scapeshift sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scapeshift/comments/4fvir6/they_keep_banning_my_decks_so_im_trying_to_learn/
Current list has changed into:
Lands:
4 Steam Vents
4 Stomping Ground
2 Breeding Pool
1 Blood Crypt
1 Watery Grave
2 Valakut, the molten Pinnacle
3 Island
2 Forest
1 Mountain
1 Swamp
1 Flooded Grove
1 Cinder Glade as 11th mountain or 4th fetch
3 Misty Rainforest
Creatures
4 Sakaru-tribe Elder
1 Snapcaster Mage
Instants & Sorceries:
3 Scapeshift
4 Bring to light
4 Search for tomorrow
1 Farseek
4 Remand
3 Cryptic Command
2 Worldly Counsel
2 Izzet Charm
2 Anger of the gods
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Hunting Wilds
1 Damnation
1 Electrolyze
Sideboard:
2 Spellskite
1 Huntmaster of the fells
3 Obstinate Baloth
1 Dispel
1 Counterflux
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Creeping Corrosion
1 Phyrexian Revoker (Replaced pithing needle)
1 Glen Elendra Archmage (replaced V Clique)
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Jund Charm (replaced relic of P)
1 Crumble to Dust
My initial pass at making a sideboard guide with my updated list is:
Affinity:
-4 Remand
-1 Cryptic Command
+2 Spellskite
+1 Creeping Corrosion
+1 Ancient Grudge
+1 Jund CHarm
Infect
-1 Farseek
-4 Remand
+1 Cryptic Command
+2 Spellskite
+1 Jund Charm
+1 Dispel
+1 Counterflux
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
Living End
-1 Electrolyze
-1 Maelstrom Pulse
-1 Farseek
-1 Anger of the gods
+1 Jund Charm
+1 Counterflux
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Kitchen Finks
Blue Moon
-3 Remand
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Ancient Grudge
+1 Counterflux
UR Delver
-4 Remand
-1 damnation
+ 1 Huntmaster of the fells
+1 Counterflux
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Kitchen Finks
+1 Jund Charm
RUG Delver
-4 Remand
-1 Anger of the gods
+ 1 Huntmaster of the fells
+2 Obstinate Baloth
+1 Counterflux
+1 Dispel
RG Tron
-1 Remand
-1 Electroylyze
-2 Anger of the gods
-1 Damnation
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Counterflux
+1 Crumble to dust
+1 Creeping Corrosion
+1 Phyrexian Revoker
UW Tron
-1 Electroylze
-2 Anger of the gods
+1 Crumble to dust
+1 Counterflux
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
Abzan
-4 Remand
-3 Cryptic Command
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+3 Obstinate Baloth
+1 Kitchen Finks
+1 Glen Elendra ARchmage
+1 Jund Charm
Jund
-4 Remand
-2 Cryptic Command
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+3 Obstinate Baloth
+1 Kitchen Finks
+1 Glen Elendra ARchmage
Grixis Control
-1 Electroylyze
-2 Anger of the gods
-2 Remand
+1 Counterflux
+3 Obstinate Baloth
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
Elves
- 4 Remand
+1 Kitchen Finks
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Jund Charm
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
Jeskai Control – no Geist
-1 Electroylze
-2 Anger of the gods
-1 Farseek
+1 Dispel
+1 Counterflux
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
Griselbrand Reanimator
-1 Electrolyze
-2 Anger of the gods
-1 Farseek
-1 Hunting Wilds
+1 Jund Charm
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Phyrexian Revoker
+1 Counterflux
+1 Dispel
Black/White Tokens
-4 Remand
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Counterflux
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+1 Jund Charm
MIRROR MATCH!
-1 Electroylze
-2 Anger of the gods
-2 Izzet Charm
-1 Maelstrom Pulse
+1 Dispel
+1 Counterflux
+1 Crumble to dust
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+1 Kitchen Finks
Burn
-4 Remand
-3 Cryptic Command
-1 Damnation
-1 Electroylze
+1 Glen Elendra
+2 Spellskite
+3 Obstinate Baloth
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+1 Dispel
+1 Kitchen Finks
Zoo
-4 Remand
-3 Cryptic Command
-1 Worldly Counsel (if dispel)
-1 Farkseek
+2 Spellskite
+3 Obstinate Baloth
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+1 Dispel (maybe)
+1 Kitchen Finks
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
Suicide Zoo
- 4 Remand
-3 Cryptic Command
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+3 Obstinate Baloth
+1 Kitchen Finks
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Jund CHarm
Mono green stompy (if gen wave version leave in remand)
-4 Remand
+3 Obstinate Baloth
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
Merfolk
-4 Remand
-1 Farseek
-1 Cryptic Command
+1 Counterflux
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+2 Obstinate Baloth
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Jund Charm
Dredgevine
-4 Remand
-2 Cryptic Command
-1 Electroylyze
+1 Jund Charm
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+3 Obstinate Baloth
+1 Spellskite
UW Thopters
-1 Electrolyze
-1 Anger of the gods
-3 Remand
+1 Ancient Grudge
+1 Creeping Corrosion
+1 Phyrexian Revoker
+1 Jund Charm
+1 Counterflux
Boggles
-4 Remand
-1 farseek
-1 Electrolyze
+1 Kitchen Finks
+1 Glen Elendra ARchmage
+2 Spellskite
+1 Counterflux
+1 Jund Charm
Lantern
-1 Electroylze
-2 Anger of the gods
-1 Damnation
-1 Farseek
-1 Worldly Council
+1 Ancient Grudge
+1 Creeping Corrosion
+1 Jund Charm if need graveyard?
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Phyrexian Revoker
+1 Counter Flux
Abzan Company
- 4 Remand
+ 1 Phyrexian Revoker
+1 Counteflux
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Jund Charm
GW Hatebears
-4 Remand
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Obstinate Baloth
+1 jund charm
Soul Sisters
-4 Remand
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+1 Phyrexian Revoker
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Jund Charm
Kiki-Chord
-4 Remand
+1 Huntmaster of the fells
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Phyrexian Revoker
+1 jund charm
Storm
-1 Damnation
-1 Electroylyze
-1 Anger of the gods
-1 Farseek
+1 Counterflux
+1 Glen Elendra Archmage
+1 Jund Charm
+1 Dispel
Any constructive discussion would be appreciated. I've only got about 26 matches under my belt with the deck.
My maybe board has consisted of tons are cards including but not limited to:
Pia and K
izzet staticaster
teferia, mage of zhalfir
olivia voldaren
inferno titan
putting back in the slaughter games
swan song
notion thief
putting back in the melira
night of souls betrayal
4th baloth
3rd anger
previously had back to nature
polukranos
sower of temptation
pryoclasm
slagstorm
thragtusk
grafdigers cage
putting back in pithing needle
engineered explosives
prismatic omen
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=12578
1 Birds of Paradise
2 Doran, the Siege Tower
4 Eternal Witness
4 Noble Hierarch
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Scavenging Ooze
4 Siege Rhino
2 Spellskite
4 Tarmogoyf
Creatures [25]
4 Abrupt Decay
4 Collected Company
4 Path to Exile
Spells [12]
1 Forest
1 Godless Shrine
4 Marsh Flats
1 Murmuring Bosk
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Plains
1 Stirring Wildwood
1 Swamp
2 Temple Garden
1 Treetop Village
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
Lands [23]
Deck Total [60]
1 Breeding Pool
1 Darkblast
4 Fulminator Mage
2 Lingering Souls
3 Rhox War Monk
1 Spellskite
3 Stony Silence
15
Print run must be A LOT higher this time around.
We have the same join date. I see you also participated in the mass exodus.
edit: and then of course the seller puts up more. well played
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MODERN-MASTERS-2-BOOSTER-BOX-24-ct-MTG-Presale-FREE-PRIORITY-SHIP-5-22-/271841464415?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4b03905f
Ya, apparently $230 sells out immediately and $235 just hangs out there. I sure wish I would get an ebay bucks multiplier....
ya apparently that auction popped up shortly after i checked out auctions and I missed them
Those sold (same price he sold some for yesterday)
he has now put up more auctions at 233.95 inc ship
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Modern-Masters-2-2015-edition-Sealed-Booster-Box-/111647854055?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19febb0de7
I don't disagree with anything you said tbh . I think anything $210 or under right now is probably a good buy price. 6 boxes just sold quickly at $229.95 each supporting what you said. i think as people see cheaper completed auctions though prices will come down. i'm not going to buy at 230. i might buy at 210 still at least a box.
here is another seller who just put boxes up at 229.95 but he charges 2.99 shipping. 5 boxes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Modern-Masters-2-2015-edition-Sealed-Booster-Box-/121624692974?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c516588ee
prices are coming down guys. wait it out.