Quote from Negator_402 »One major difference, and I hope you can appreciate this: heterosexuality is, FAR AND AWAY, the norm. Your analogy would make more sense if women (lets, for the sake of argument, make them all unattractive women) continually asked me out this poorly at a card tournament. It would be sad. If men hit on me, that would be very creepy, because they are presuming interest in homosexual activity, which is a minority. That would be like me handing out Planned Parenthood fliers in Iran, and wondering why I am getting shot.
There is also a public policy issue. We want humans to live in the US, interestingly enough. For that, we need people to, you know, mate! Unwanted advances are sad, and when made repeatedly, are in fact harassment. One-off failed pickup attempts are not, and punishing them will lead to more introversion from an already-introversive group. Should we not be encouraging players to date each other, rather than making women at Magic events sacred cows??
I can accept a middle ground: flirt with tact. At a bar, grossly creeping at a girl results in a drink tossing. At a card event, perhaps a shove? But banning that behavior is wrong.
So, its ok when men creep on women with cringy pick up lines and unwanted ocntact, making them extremely uncomfortable and causing them to leave the store or game, because heterosexuality is the norm, and wrong for gay men to do the same to straight men because gay is icky?
Then, to make it worse, you try to argue that unwanted sexual advances in an inappropriate setting is a good thing, because nerds need to mate. I'm almost at a loss for words, this is so stereotypically cringy that its more of a slur against geeks than the Big Bang Theory. Let me put it this way, you need to walk before you can run, and firing off pick up lines like that is like a baby trying to run a marathon.
I wouldn't call mindbreak trap, even when hardcast against a single target, a worse dissipate, because it doesn't counter spells, it exiles the directly, enabling it to answer uncounterable spells. It can stop a key Abrupt Decay.
As for this card, if certain strategies rampant in your meta it can be worth it. You will be running certain other cards ahead of it, but I think in the right meta its worth reaching for for redundancy.
Kaboom! Costs 5
Last Laugh IS a bad pestilence, but its a pretty decent Damnation varient. Outside of indestructible dudes, there isn't much of a way to garauntee it sticks around, but it is easy to control how hard it hits when it goes off. Often, sacrificing a couple things for value will pretty much wipe the board while dealing a bunch of damage to players, you just don't play it until you are ready to set it off. You treat it as a sorcery instead of an enchantment most of the time. If you do have an indestructible dude, like say Mogis in a group slug deck or Bontu or Yahenni in a sac deck, it gets to stick around and cause more pain later.
Works with Grenzo to turn those top of the library tutors into bottom of the library tutors, where they are more effective.
The cheap cc can be important early game in slower metas. Though I agree, outside of tribal, this is usually going to be ant queen #2 at best.
Dread Return has flashback, not buyback, thus it is exiled after it is cast from the yard.
It does, however, work if you use Corpse Dance, and then you only need 5 lands in play to start netting mana or creatures (as saccing Avenger and 4 tokens lets you pay the 4B for Corpse Dances casting cost and buyback.)
Note that this is also a bit more vulnerable of a combo, as Corpse Dance returns the top creature of your graveyard to the field, so killing any other nontoken creature you might have will let an opponent stop you from getting Avenger back, which, will stop the combo for the turn unless you have the mana to do it again. Thankfully this doesn't counter the spell, so buyback will still work and the killed creature will come back, attack, and get exiled, letting you try again next turn so long as they can't keep dumping dudes into your yard.
Is that because PS makes the effects too strong, or because PS incentivizes players to run the hosers, and that leads to more games where they hit the table without PS and ruin one players game?
How are you getting the second legendary brother though? Only Brother 1 is legendary since all others are copies, unless I'm missing something. The legend rule rules text would only matter if you made a token copy some other way that copies being legendary, or you somehow got a second Brother card (like house ruling them as partners).
I am again calling for the thread to be temporarily locked as all points from both sides have been made ad nauseum, the RC has spoken twice definitively on the subject, and posters are either talking past each other or engaging in insults or passive aggressive bs. The card is not getting unbanned unless the RC changes its ban criteria to drop the interacts poorly with the format category, as this card is the poster child for that category. Discussion of THAT moves beyond a single card discussion surrounding just CV, so there is no further purpose for this thread.
If you think that approach of the second sun and CV are even remotely comparable, then you really, truly don't know what you are talking about.