Quote from Card Slinger J »Unfortunately as long as people are stupid, policies need to be put in place assuming people are stupid. It's got nothing to do with shady business practices when it's got more to do with protecting the lowest common denominator. Each state is handling COVID-19 differently however each state isn't handling it intelligently, so Wizards of the Coast stepped in because they decided they didn't want their products associated with an outbreak. I do think that Double Masters, Mystery Booster, and Jumpstart completely devaluing the majority of Non-Reserve List cards that Local Game Stores need to make a profit from flipping card singles combined with low cash flow affecting their business during this pandemic sounds like a recipe for disaster because what good is keeping Paper Magic affordable If nobody has a place to play anymore? Organized Play for Paper Magic be damned.
Sure Local Game Stores are no longer able to run Organized Play events but that doesn't mean that they need to shutdown In-Store Play entirely for Casual players who just want to hangout with their friends and play EDH / Commander. What would give Wizards of the Coast the idea that the majority of Paper Magic players actually play at home over their LGS? I can understand If the LGS environment is toxic but that's just a false negative stereotype that EVERY LGS is like this when it isn't. Not every LGS has a loyal community (not online btw) that financially supports them especially when it's already difficult enough as it is to compete against online companies when they don't even have operational websites, no eBay accounts, or Social Media presence. Even If they do it increases online competition to the point where it's hard for these Local Game Stores to get noticed like on TCGPlayer.
Quote from SpeedGrapher »Everyone loves Mark Rose Water. Your title and post don't match up. It really seems like this is drama stirring thread. Maro is friendly, listens to the player base and answers questions constantly on blogatog. He gave you zendidar 3. Ravnica 3. Theros 2. He's giving you everything you want.
It's still a business. You don't have to buy the product. For most people $4 for a pack of paper cards is crazy when you can buy a normal deck of playing cards for about $5 and use them for forever. He gave you Jumpstart and M2021 which had a huge amount of high end re-prints. He's doing an amazing job.
#Maro is awesome.
He even brought back Dominaria! That's 2 years of being an amazing game designer!
There is a power creep problem in the creatures but they can power that stuff down by doing heavy creature type effect cards which they are already doing.
Rin and Seri, Inseparable Never thought there would be dog and cat lords. But there will be a lot more creature type lords you have never heard of. Turtles Aegis Turtle, badgers Charging Badger etc.
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i think they've also sold us on the idea that the heart is healthy but the mind isn't. that is to say that they're at the whims of their hasbro overlords but wotc aims are in the right place... and honestly i'm not entirely sold on that idea. hasbro just wants to see profit, doesn't matter how you get there. i have major doubts someone from hasbro is coming down and being like print this not that, take this approach to boosters not that one, oko is okay he just makes elks! yet, the overwhelming majority of us seem to believe its all hasbro's fault. we forget that wotc has leadership too, as does magic: the gathering.
Quote from Card Slinger J »Quote from Narvuntien »There are enough things to worry about before getting to biological warfare (or what God thinks of you). You might just have anxiety, something that this virus is making worse, maybe seek some professional help. Seriously, you don't need to pull on those bootstraps yourself, Maybe, you just need some help because your brain doesn't produce the right amount of serotonin.
I was talking to you as if you were sane but you are a Peterson Fan *facepalm*I don't really follow Jordan Peterson all that much when I mainly found his discussion on the "Peter Pan Syndrome" to be really insightful to what the current generation of young adults are going through right now. Believe it or not it's actually based on an actual book published in 1983 titled, "The Peter Pan Syndrome: Men Who Have Never Grown Up".
Quote from Narvuntien »There are enough things to worry about before getting to biological warfare (or what God thinks of you). You might just have anxiety, something that this virus is making worse, maybe seek some professional help. Seriously, you don't need to pull on those bootstraps yourself, Maybe, you just need some help because your brain doesn't produce the right amount of serotonin.
I was talking to you as if you were sane but you are a Peterson Fan *facepalm*
Quote from Card Slinger J »Quote from Onering »Card slinger, its impractical to base a business plan on a once a century event. Practicality dictates that if there is a rare event that can possibly destroy your business, but it's rare enough that you are very likely to die before it happens again, you don't let that hold you back from running your business.Given recent advancements in 21st century technology I don't think outbreaks that require the kind of response that we've made with COVID-19 are as rare as you think especially If the smartest people on Earth are able to replicate it easily enough to cause biological warfare as a means of depopulating the planet without having to launch military strikes on other nations. In that kind of scenario you have a situation where vaccines are being used as political bargaining chips in order to further advance agendas of certain nations and terrorist groups instead of nuclear warheads like it was done in the past. Why? Because it costs them less damage while strengthening their own military forces all in one foul swoop even If it costs peoples' lives in the process regardless of where they're from. It's more about forced population control than divide and conquer.
And It's not so much that COVID-19 style viruses aren't the new normal when the potential of them being used for geopolitical warfare is extremely dangerous compared to the traditional means of how we normally view geopolitical warfare through the use of military action and physical weapons. In order to diminish the possibility of another COVID-19 style outbreak we really need more safeguards in place to help prevent this sort of crisis from occurring again though currently we don't have that at the moment right now. Given how technology continues to advance it will be a lot easier to genetically modify a COVID-19 style virus to where it ends up becoming more advanced than the last that makes it more difficult to fight against. The question is whether If those who fulfill these kind of evil deeds are willing to risk the collapse of the global economy in their march for conquest.
Quote from Onering »Card slinger, its impractical to base a business plan on a once a century event. Practicality dictates that if there is a rare event that can possibly destroy your business, but it's rare enough that you are very likely to die before it happens again, you don't let that hold you back from running your business.
Quote from Card Slinger J »Seems as though my area is starting to mandate masks out in public with the second wave of coronavirus coming in from recent outbreaks in California, Florida, and Texas. I can see this making it more difficult for people to play Paper Magic at Local Game Stores (LGSs) since they won't be able to breathe as well by messing up their concentration though it's a small price to pay to help save humanity from this public health crisis. Sadly I think we're back to square one again with the phase 1 protocols we dealt with in March this year as a lot of state governments are starting to roll back their re-opening plans which means more herd immunity through social distancing.
So it looks like we'll be seeing round two of government lockdown with more stimulus checks being sent to everyone which means more inflation to make everything three times as expensive as it was before. There were already delays with recent Paper Magic products like Commander 2020, Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths, and Jumpstart with Double Masters possibly getting delayed due to this second wave coming in. There's definitely going to be a whiplash within the Secondary Market because of these delays and recent inflation woes creating artificial demand for these products with very limited supply. We're already heading into a bear market If not already.
Quote from Gerrard"s Mom »hyalapterouslemur broke the mechanics down well, but interestingly, the flaws we might find with Legends are almost all due to the incredible shifts in game literacy and game design theory that we have seen in the decades since this set came out. There are many cards here that are not fun because they slow down play, hose really specific strategies, or seem cool but are not efficient enough to play in most formats. Many cards break the current color pie and there are not really any cohesive themes that make the cards play together in fun ways as a set. Sure it's a bit of a fallacy, but it's totally valid to look back and say this set was all over the place if we accept a modern design standpoint.
Nobody is denying that there are powerful cards, flavorful cards, or design innovations that had a big impact on sets to come - this article is talking about what is good about the set, after all. In the spirit of this article series, please feel free to share what you love about Legends, but recognize that the article's point is not to say that Legends is "bad".
Anyway, I'd say Born of the Gods is probably your next best bet for sets people like to dump on. Maybe Dragon's Maze.
Quote from Crazy Pierre »Well, people saying Legends is a bad set...it's not really playable in limited or sealed. A lot of the creatures are very expensive to play. When your best limited beater is Thunder Spirit at 1WW and that's a rare card, yikes.
I do have a casual Jasmine Boreal deck that's based on destroying evil, peace prevailing, nature and the odd Shuriken, because I had thought for a long time she held a shuriken in her hand, whereas someone pointed out that she's holding a snowflake. Cards such as Fyndhorn Pollen, Northern Paladin, Southern Paladin, Penatarch Paladin, Cleanse, Shuriken, the meld Gisela and Bruna and so on. YOu get the idea, it's not very good but it's fun!
Legends is one of my fave all-time sets, but I always sucked at pack wars. My best card an Elder Land wurm and his? A Mana Drain lol...
Quote from Negator_402 »One major difference, and I hope you can appreciate this: heterosexuality is, FAR AND AWAY, the norm. Your analogy would make more sense if women (lets, for the sake of argument, make them all unattractive women) continually asked me out this poorly at a card tournament. It would be sad. If men hit on me, that would be very creepy, because they are presuming interest in homosexual activity, which is a minority. That would be like me handing out Planned Parenthood fliers in Iran, and wondering why I am getting shot.
There is also a public policy issue. We want humans to live in the US, interestingly enough. For that, we need people to, you know, mate! Unwanted advances are sad, and when made repeatedly, are in fact harassment. One-off failed pickup attempts are not, and punishing them will lead to more introversion from an already-introversive group. Should we not be encouraging players to date each other, rather than making women at Magic events sacred cows??
I can accept a middle ground: flirt with tact. At a bar, grossly creeping at a girl results in a drink tossing. At a card event, perhaps a shove? But banning that behavior is wrong.
Quote from Hawk7915 »Quote from Negator_402 »What you just mentioned (that pickup line) is not harassment, and I fear for a world were that is considered such.
Context matters, so consider my post to be "unsolicited pick-up lines that clearly make the recipient uncomfortable" since sure, you might be flirting and it makes sense to drop old gems like this - but also, if all your pickup lines relate immediately to sex with someone who's just there to play Magic, perhaps you should find a few new ones. THAT's the overall point, really, of my thread here - many here are saying "just let me play cards, this is a game, leave politics and identity out of it", then defending dropping cheesy pick-up lines and trolling for sex with their female opponents who are also just there to play cards. You can't have it both ways. It can't just be a game when it makes you comfortable, and be about your out-of-game needs and wants when it makes you comfortable too.
I opted for a clean example in the interest of not getting a warning or infraction.
Quote from Negator_402 »What you just mentioned (that pickup line) is not harassment, and I fear for a world were that is considered such.
Quote from HolyProxyBatman »Quote from hyalapterouslemur »Yeah, it's "Keep your politics out of here. Now let me tell you all about how horrible women are. #MAGA!"
And yet, all these Hollywood abusers are what? MAGA fans? Nope. True-blue liberals. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
Quote from hyalapterouslemur »Yeah, it's "Keep your politics out of here. Now let me tell you all about how horrible women are. #MAGA!"
Quote from secretgiant »This article is wrong to characterize anyone with sympathies to dimensions to complex problems as Nazi-lovers. Freedom of speech is a legal right, but harassment is sometimes illegal. People who say things we disagree with should be countered in a principled way or ignored. If speakers are mercilessly harassed (I don't know if Hambly was genuinely harassed) for their speech, that is not ok. I believe Sprankle has been insulted for sexual and gender reasons and I don't respect Hambly's position on how to characterize women. Behavior like Hambly's is known to exclude women from all kinds of environments, so I don't doubt that sometimes women avoid MTG because they don't want to be treated like animals. But harassing him as revenge accomplishes nothing good. It reveals that the friends of women in our community agree with these methods. The way deal with things we don't agree with are as important as our beliefs. Men in our community that hate women are harassers, it seems, and some of the men that defend women are harassers too.
People like Hambly and his speech and behavior should be condemned by the community and members of the community must stop tolerating an anti-female environment.
Quote from Negator_402 »Type less, read more. The quote from me you yourself quoted above states "the 4th Amendment applies to government." I then went on to discuss the concept of the burden of proof in the public sphere.
I do not need you to believe I am an attorney. Your approval is not important to me, or to many other people, I venture.
Quote from Negator_402 »SJW is in fact a term. Its a term adopted by the people who are labeled it.
And the difference is, the word "bigot" means "no matter what his opinion, it does not count to me, regardless of the topic." I do not label someone a "socialist" when I argue with them about police or immigration.
Quote from dos_rogue »wow is this what Mtgsalvation has become? another political tabloid?
Quote from Negator_402 »You quoted me (an attorney, no less) and then stated "only stupid people think the constitution..." Surely, you are joking?
Quote from Negator_402 »Unfortunately, this is the new normal. I have tried to avoid terming any opinion I do not agree with as "Socialist" or "Islamist" or "Intersectionalist Nonsense" to not fall into this trap myself.
Quote from jball_2k »Literally nobody wants racists and bigots playing this game with us. I don't know what your point is.
My point is conflating conservatives with alt-right/Nazis is just wrong. It's extremely dishonest. It's bad for the game and the community.
Quote from Negator_402 »ISIS is a self-claiming "state" which calls for the destruction of the West. We are at war with ISIS.
Nazi Germany is (thankfully, thanks to people like my grandparents who fought in the Red Army) a dead state. The alleged "Neo-Nazis", of which there are actually quite few, do not swear allegiance to this state because it is not in existence.
There are in fact people in the US who advocate for a race-based fascist state. Some of them are Neo-Nazis and other "Alt Right" factions. Others still are BLM, various Islamic proliferation movements, and all sorts of Socialist groups. Socialism, as advocated by Bernie Sanders and such, is support of a form of governance alien to ours. Does THIS not bother you?