This is a very good card. Rancored Elf described a scenario involiving a second turn kill. while impropable Blazing shoal and this certainly do have potential along with the rest of the R/G spiritcraft deck to be a force in block. The plays that this allows you to power out are very appetizing indeed. Need less to say this just wont cut it in standard.
not just in standard, this won't even see play in limited i think...
scenario :
a : 2nd turn, sakiko the leafcaller, attack!!! pump with blazing shoal pitch red myojin!!!
b : terror...
a : aw crap...
this is a good card and it will be an insane card in freshmaker, ponza and/or land destruction.
well in land destruction, stone rain would be better, since it doesn't cost you a permanent and you can actually CHOOSE which lands to destroy...
scenario:
a : 1st turn, crack the earth!!
b : okay, sac ornithopter...
my turn, arti-land, arcbound worker via vial, frogmite x2, cranial plating, go...
a : aw crap...
compare to stone rain
a : 3rd turn stone rain!!
b : okay my glimmervoid's gone...
my turn, arti-land, disciple via vial, ravager, frogmite x2, go...
a : aw crap...
if you want take off one damage, and make it hit creatures and players, so u can have the versatility, then play with yamabushis flame. and you wont miss the other abilities (which arent all that great anyways) unless your playing against life.dec. in which case, the card as printed would be better because youll want to hit your opponent anyways.
not too bad of a card. but not worth the three mana for the extra abilities, -arcane, and +1 dmg when compared to lava spike. that being said, i may still use it if i cant come up with something else for the last couple spots in my red.
well against life.dec, this would be useless, since they'd probably response by using the en-kor abilities again and again...
(looks good against pulse of the fields though...)
other than that, looks pretty solid for an uncommon, although you can only target player...
after reading the older post, i stumbled upon r_e's idea to use blazing shoal, wowww...
totally overlooked this combo potential...
and yes i now think it fits as an uncommon...
and with a pumpable green creature, this could be good...
(standard type green pumpable creature...hmmm... nothing comes into mind...)
It shouldve been costed ar UU1 to at least make it playable in MBC
i think you meant MUC (Mono blUe Control)...
since MBC means Mono Black Control... (yeah i was confused too at 1st...)
anyway...
scenario, against affinity...
a : minamo meddling your frogmite!! show me your hand!!!
b : nope, no hand, all already in play, attack with a 22/2 double plated ornithopter, GG...
a : aw crap...
with the meta as it is, sometimes looking at your opponent hand is worse...
(i can't handle bad news)
just like someone just pointed out, counter sundering titan, reveal tooth and nail ... or eternal witness
The funny thing is, I could see this in multiple decks. Obvious Fastbond interactions, obvious Block interactions with Azusa and her Moonfolk buddies, etc. It won't rock anybody's workd, but as many have noticed, it's ugly in MP and will probably net you a sizeable amount of life. I want some for my multiplayer group!
well, i thought you were referring to sundering titan
perhaps upheaval would be better than sunder though...
what the? i've been away for just 1 hour, and this thread has reached 3 pages... wow... you guys are fast (unlike some internet connections in some 3rd world country...
back to topic...
wow... just... wow... look at that suckiness...
i'd take hinder anyday, thank you very much... (thanks r_e for the card)
and in it's defense, its a common, so there...
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i really wouldnt mind awful 4cc counterspells as long as they make really insane 5cc counterspells.... like time stop costing 5cc instead so some people might actually ever use it.
well if you're playing constructed, time stop is a must, since people would just sideboard in boseiju in game 2 (sometimes its even mainboard...)
and i play 3 in main, 1 in sideboard...
it doesnt give you 1 mana when you hit the opponent, it gives you 1 mana per point of damage to the opponent. So if you hit them for 4 with the enchanted creature, you get 4 mana.
[oops] oops [/oops]
my bad...
so that's why it's an uncommon...
euh... we'll just have to see how this fare then...
in comparison, tangleroot produces G everytime a player plays a spell, so a 0 mana creature would create a lot of mana (ornithopters, frogmites, even myr enforcers)
and you can put as many 0-mana creatures in 1 turn...
(maybe coz it gives your opponent mana too, nobody uses it... nawww, nobody uses it, coz it's bad...)
as for this, you would have to hit the player, for 1 mana...
and there's only 1 combat phase in 1 turn (usually)...
(even if you add triple-strike to the equation, it's still not good enough...)
p.s. : but then again triple-strike would probably kill your opponent, so there...
The more that I look at this card the more that I start to like it. I really think that a good ug deck could be made. I don't know if it would be tournament worthy but it would definitely be good. The one card that could stop anything from happening in block is the one white 2W arcane sorcery that destroys all enchantments. I forgot it's name sorry.
well, in mirrodin there's a similar mana-p/t creature...
leonin den-guard, it's more potent in an equipment heavy environment..
but we all know what happen to it...
useful in limited, and that's it...
the problem is akroma's vengeance destroys everything!!!
and that includes enchantments...
i think the enchantments would go to the graveyard as well...
p.s. :
blue can also remove the genjus via reweave, although he will find another one to replace the "dead" enchantment...
(unless that's his last genju enchantment in his deck...)
and it's efficient too!!!
not just in standard, this won't even see play in limited i think...
scenario :
a : 2nd turn, sakiko the leafcaller, attack!!! pump with blazing shoal pitch red myojin!!!
b : terror...
a : aw crap...
well in land destruction, stone rain would be better, since it doesn't cost you a permanent and you can actually CHOOSE which lands to destroy...
scenario:
a : 1st turn, crack the earth!!
b : okay, sac ornithopter...
my turn, arti-land, arcbound worker via vial, frogmite x2, cranial plating, go...
a : aw crap...
compare to stone rain
a : 3rd turn stone rain!!
b : okay my glimmervoid's gone...
my turn, arti-land, disciple via vial, ravager, frogmite x2, go...
a : aw crap...
well not a really good comparison there...
what if the mods hosts some events that give "special" custom titles...
just like the ones in "some other" forums...
example...
best moderator in 2004
best rumor source in 2004 ( we all know who this belongs to
best humor poster, or whatever...
p.s. : this would stop people from spamming to achieve custom title posts count (maybe... :rolleyes2:)
p.p.s. : not sure if this belongs here...
and when it dies, it brings back all the dead guys...
well, icy manipulator wouldn't last 1 turn in this environment...
(hey waitaminit... YOU wouldn't live when you cast and activate it...)
this would see play only in limited... not even in block...
(i'd rather have rewind in constructed over this, thank you very much...)
well against life.dec, this would be useless, since they'd probably response by using the en-kor abilities again and again...
(looks good against pulse of the fields though...)
other than that, looks pretty solid for an uncommon, although you can only target player...
totally overlooked this combo potential...
and yes i now think it fits as an uncommon...
and with a pumpable green creature, this could be good...
(standard type green pumpable creature...hmmm... nothing comes into mind...)
i think you meant MUC (Mono blUe Control)...
since MBC means Mono Black Control... (yeah i was confused too at 1st...)
anyway...
scenario, against affinity...
a : minamo meddling your frogmite!! show me your hand!!!
b : nope, no hand, all already in play, attack with a 22/2 double plated ornithopter, GG...
a : aw crap...
with the meta as it is, sometimes looking at your opponent hand is worse...
(i can't handle bad news)
just like someone just pointed out, counter sundering titan, reveal tooth and nail ... or eternal witness
well, i thought you were referring to sundering titan
perhaps upheaval would be better than sunder though...
back to topic...
wow... just... wow... look at that suckiness...
i'd take hinder anyday, thank you very much... (thanks r_e for the card)
and in it's defense, its a common, so there...
well if you're playing constructed, time stop is a must, since people would just sideboard in boseiju in game 2 (sometimes its even mainboard...)
and i play 3 in main, 1 in sideboard...
[oops] oops [/oops]
my bad...
so that's why it's an uncommon...
euh... we'll just have to see how this fare then...
sarcasm sense tingle...???
in comparison, tangleroot produces G everytime a player plays a spell, so a 0 mana creature would create a lot of mana (ornithopters, frogmites, even myr enforcers)
and you can put as many 0-mana creatures in 1 turn...
(maybe coz it gives your opponent mana too, nobody uses it... nawww, nobody uses it, coz it's bad...)
as for this, you would have to hit the player, for 1 mana...
and there's only 1 combat phase in 1 turn (usually)...
(even if you add triple-strike to the equation, it's still not good enough...)
p.s. : but then again triple-strike would probably kill your opponent, so there...
i think you're referring to
terashi's grasp 2W
sorcery - arcane
destroy target artifact or enchanment
well, in mirrodin there's a similar mana-p/t creature...
leonin den-guard, it's more potent in an equipment heavy environment..
but we all know what happen to it...
useful in limited, and that's it...
and that includes enchantments...
i think the enchantments would go to the graveyard as well...
p.s. :
blue can also remove the genjus via reweave, although he will find another one to replace the "dead" enchantment...
(unless that's his last genju enchantment in his deck...)