So far with spoilers from Innistrad some cards to consider are Saryth, the Viper's Fang and Unnatural Growth. For Saryth I would -1 chariot and -1 inscription. Dont forget the synergy of Jaspera Sentinel giving deathtouch to a creature during blocks or for a fight spell to kill a larger creature.
For Unnatural Growth I would remove the same cards and the thought of playing Froghemoth after landing this card sound very attractive; something like +1 Professor, +2 Froghemoth for ultimate 'Timmyness'
Edit 9/13/21
Concerning Unnatural Growth I made this list:
I love the Idea of having Troll, Symmetrist or Professor in play then playing Unnatural growth, or having it in play then playing Froghemoth or Vorinclex!!!
Vs Control
-4 Blizzard Brawl, -1 Inscription of abundance, +2 Toski, +2 Froghemoth, +1 Snakeskin Veil.
Vs Dragons
+1 Plummet, -1 blizzard/inscription
Vs Mono Red or something aggressive also creature heavy decks
-1 vorinclex, +1 inscription
My list differs from top lists thus far. Here is the latest event I know of to this date:https://mtgazone.com/top-8-standard-2022-decks-tgs-open-8-22/
Most are not running Vorinclex and have too many man lands in my opinion. For example the 1st place list runs 8 man lands, 24 total lands but also 4 Mammoths so that is 8 lands that could delay blizzard brawl from doing its thing. Maybe the plan with a list like that is to use the man lands without reservation treating them more as creatures than lands. I am taking the approach to minimize total land count increasing spell count while maintaining maximum snow land count to enable blizzard brawl.
I dont think 4 Professors is the right number. Im surprised not to see Introduction of Annihilation in the sideboard. I think he should have a 2nd or 3rd Containment Breach removing the 3rd Toski and pest summoning. Maybe Pest summoning is better in blocking creatures then gaining life, but he already has access to 4 life gain spells and 8 removal spells so against aggressive decks pest summing shouldn't be needed.
The 3rd place list is closer to my main except this guy was running Froghemoth main over my Vorinclex and his land base is closer to mine. The main difference is the lack of though in my opinion on the sideboard.
So forgotten Realms has come out and with that Burning Hands has made a big impact and Naya Winota is the best deck. With that I think that my version or idea of running Vorinclex is negated at the thought of spending 6 mana to have it destroyed by a 2 mana instant. Moreover mono red will be a little faster with this direct removal and the game has to speed up with Winota being able to win on T4 and 5 with consistency.
With all the above being said i have switched over to a snow version with a lower mana curve and more removal:
Current deck list is:
If I were to stick with Vorinclex then my list would look like this with Realms of the forgotten out; -2 Old Growth Troll, +2 Werewolf Pack Leader, +2 Lair of the Hydra, -1 Crawling Barrens and -1 Forest = lowering the curve plus sideboard changes.
Current deck list is:
I kind of like Jims Version more to be honest. Perhaps you are trying to go more nuts but Jim's Version has a lot more resilience and reliability to it. I don't really like the high mana cost cards in your version I like all the 2-3-4 mana cards but once you go beyond that not a fan.
hmmm......ok. Im reviewing my deck taken what you said into consideration. I believe Vorinclex is unnecessary, Phylath too, Embercleave is probably "win-more", I have cast it but didnt do the math to determine if it mattered. I got the idea for Embercleave and Terror of Mt. Velus from Magda's 5 treasure ability but since excluding Jaspera Sentinel that doesn't come up much at all plus im more likely to use the treasures to cast spells. Henge can go own to 2 as I mentioned in the list. All being said I am going to try: -2 Vorinclex, -1 Henge, -1 Phylath, -1 embercleave, +2 Questing Beast, +3 Sentinel. New list:
I did notice a strict issue with fliers so Sentinel is very helpful there and Arasta of the Endless Web might be main deck worthy. I am going to pay closer attention to Zirda to see if her abilities are worth the slot over 1 Sentinel.
7/6 edit: Zirda's out, 4th Sentinel in, Henge and terror of mt velus out, going to 3 Esika and Birgi to ensure I see them more as having more mana to power to class 3 as soon as possible is more likily plus using their back sides are useful.
Leaving 1 vorinclex in as a way to search up purphoros if vivien is in play. Having haste on the turn you go off is a must.
first draft SB
7/22 edit: focusing on going off more than just playing hasty, -2 Questing Beast, -1 Vorinclex, -1 forest, +3 Kolvari, +1 Inferno, edited the SB
If I were to go 'Hasty' it would look like this:
Here is an absolute fun, glass cannon-ish Gruul deck that is new for standard. I found out about it on "CoolStuffInc." from MTG pro Jim Davis; Bard Class. Since running the deck a around 30 times I have made some changes and am having an absolute BLAST!
The goal is to have a hand with Bard class in it, don't be afraid to mull to 4, seriously, its that explosive! Turn 2 Bard Class, Turn3 pay RG to go to level 2 then hopefully you'll have some creatures to play and from there its all about putting your library in play.
I've seen Selesnya and Gruul deck guides on CFB Pro - why do you think the mono Green version is better than having another color in there?
The mana.....
With the new set I have not looked at any new brews so maybe something is out there but even with Pathways I had games where I would get tripped on color requirements with Gruul Adventures.
4/8/21: Taking Preservers out for Swarm Shamblers. Better gemrazer targets, cost less, more cards to turn on lovestruck Beast. Never really got to abuse a Preserver, all instances were extreme situations of 'win more'.
The mana base is suspect but I'll test it out. Obviously this deck is a standard Temur adventures but instead of Genesis Ultimatum or taking more turns we have terror of the peaks and Body of research to try and win. I plan to play the deck as winning when you play body of research so that means only casting the spell if Terror is in play or with 7 mana and a footfall crater or at 8 mana and Kazuul's fury. Of course the deck can still win without the spell and the threat of the spell is so great you can sideboard it out for a different style to next level the opponent with other cards.
-1 Vorinclex, -1 Wildborn Preserver for +2 Exponential Growth. I'm going to try it on Arena. 13 trample creatures to ensure the damage gets through. Snow lands to make faceless Haven hitting for 8 or 16 a possibility.
I am seriously considering replacing Ilysian Caryatid with Tangled Florahedron as it will allow me to keep more hands. Too often I keep hands with like 2 lands and a caryatid hoping the caryatid can carry my hand until I draw more lands then it gets killed. If it is a Hedron then that would guarantee my 3rd land.
Another thing that occurred to me is having 4 Hedrons over Caryatids is that I would have 30 lands; maybe I could get rid of a forest and Turntimber Symbiosis for 2 more spells. 28 total lands then +1Primal might and +1Ram through or Snakeskin Veil??? That would make more room in the sideboard, for whatever, +2 Questing Beast??
It would look like this:
I fear keeping 1 turntimber symbiosis will affect my forest count for troll and castle so I will keep track how many times I miss it.
3/15/21: I jammed a lot of games on area this weekend with this configuration of removing Caryatids for Florahedrons and my theory played out. It was a little difficult determining whether or not Cary would have been better then Flora because some of those situations played out where I play Flora as a land Turn1 then draw lands. For example I have a hand with 2 lands and 1 Flora then play it turn 1 then turn 2 draw another land THEN it remains to be unknown whether or not the opponent had T2 removal. Despite that I counted many times where having the card in hand enabled me to keep my hand as Flora was my 3rd guaranteed land or it enabled me to curve into other spells.
The question is now what takes the 2 spots as I removed 1 forest and the Turntimber Symbiosis. Right now I got +1 Primal Might and +1 Wildborn preserver or Fiend Artisan ~ trying it out.
Fiend artisan seems good against rogues and untapping with it could be good if I had 7 mana and a chump then I could search out Vorinclex. Otherwise against rogues artisan could be huge and mutating Gemrazer on it would make it bigger and give it trample. With 4 ram through already being brought in against rogues it might be big enough to kill the opponent out right.
3/23/21:
fiend artisan was never good, interestingly enough I never played it against Rogues but main decking a card that is only hypothetically good against 1 deck isn't worth it. Online I am playing 2 Wildborn Preservers and they are ok.
Since adding Vorinclex to the main I am 112-51, 69%(3/23/21)win rate, playing the "Traditional Standard Event" on Arena. I am interested in building my collection then I am climbing the ladder as I get more coin and cards playing that event.
In paper I have removed Battle Mammoths back for Swarm Shamblers until I get Vorinclex in paper, Mammoths just dont fit the curve.
Creatures - 31 4 Stonecoil Serpent - T1/2 with T3 Razer enbles T4 Henge 4 Swarm Shambler - T1/2 with T3 Razer enables T4 Henge 4 Scavenging Ooze - auto include due to rogues and Kroxa 4 Ilysian Caryatid - replaces Cobra makes 2 mana regardless of landfall and enables Lovestruck 3 Garruk's Harbinger - 3 mana for 4 power to enable Caryatid, good against Rogues and Dimir 4 Lovestruck Beast - enables T4 Henge 4 Kazandu Mammoth - T4 land drop enable T4 Henge 4 Gemrazer - mutate on Shambler or Coil for 6 power on T3
The new cards I am going to be adding are: +3 Old-growth troll, -3 Garruk's Harbinger, +3 Battle Mammoth, +1 Vivien, Monster's Advocate, -4 Swarm Shambler. I sacrificed the possibility of playing T4 Henge by mutating on T1/2 Swarm Shambler for a better card in other stages of the game with Battle Mammoth. Being able to cast Mammoth on T4 then Henge on 5 is still good.
We'll see about Old-Growth Troll over harbinger as harbinger had a leg up on Rogues and Dimir and I have to worry less about not hitting GGG on T3 by play one of my 3 colorless lands.
So T4 henge with:
T4 land drop and Beast or Mammoth in play - 2 ways
Caryatid with 4 power creature; Razer(mutated requires 4th land drop), troll or Snake (land drop not required) - 1 required creature with 1 of 12 others
A 5/5 or 6/6 Gemrazer mutated onto a snake - 1 required creature with 1 of 4 others
2/3/21
I took out 2 Turntimber Symbiosis for 2 forest as when the Troll dies I need a forest in play and there have been times I didnt have a forest or not enough! Also it isnt too often that I would actually play the spell, more often then not I was dealing with the cons of the land side. ALSO I learned if you mutate onto Troll and it gets killed both the Troll and the mutate card can go onto a forest for DOUBLE ramp and double 4/4s.
Also I added 1 Primal Might main and moved a Ram through to the sideboard. I cut the forth Henge for a Vivien, I was drawing too many henges and my opening hand had too many in them. Vivien plays well with Henge, great fun.
Over time I am sure that those 2 sorcerous spyglass and 1 Questing beasts will turn into 3 Vorinclex, Monsterous Raider as that card is just insane!
2/5/21
Testing vorinclex over Battle Mammoth to see if I like it better, I am sure I will. Main deck answers for sagas and Ugin/planeswalkers, double counters for stonecoil and creatures from the henge, 6/6 haste(clear some spots in the sideboard). Poor Mammoth and poor wallet if this turns out better. I will be also adding 2 castles and removing 2 forests to ensure I can cast Vorinclex at 5 mana.
+3 vorinclex, -3 Battle Mammoth. Only 1 turntimber symbiosis, 4 castles for vorinclex, more forests, only 1 crawling barrens now. 2/2 split of ram through and primal might.
2/16/21
I am currently shopping for good deals on Vorinclex as it is the better card over Battle Mammoth. I know that is a completely obvious statement but my testing has 100% solidified it. To date I am 40-18 in 12 "Traditional Standard Event"s on MtgA, the event that costs 1000 gold and is best of three. Due to the power of Vorinclex's haste, it makes me think of a more aggro version of mono green that plays 4 questing beast, 4 Garruk's Harbinger and 6-8 removal spells main.
I've had a Radha, heir to Keld while and I love it, really fun and decently strong. As the new versions of Radha have come out Ive tried converting my deck while some of the lists are cool, Heart of Keld in particular, they weren't really what I was trying to build. But as I spent more time with Radha again I realized shes in need of some tweaking. So I looking for some advice on restructuring and tuning. Here's my list as it is now. I am curious for feedback or card suggestions. Specifically I am considering changing up some of the creatures, maybe adding another one or two in. Sometimes I feel like a get ramped up but then dont have enough creatures to cast.
The premise is of course ramp into good stuff. What Heir to Keld adds that the other versions don't is a huge amount of consistency. Because you can always cast her on T2 you always can hit 4 mana of T3, ideal to drop a spell that can ramp you into a 6-7cc card T4. This is good because it allows you get out and swinging pretty quick but it also means while building you dont include any 2cc ramp spells like signets or stuff like Natures Lore which, while good cards are 1 for 1s. You instead get to fill up on cards like Skyshroud Claim which are 2 for 1s. This means both that you will draw less lands later in the game cause youre pulling more out of your deck but it also means arent drawing a signet later when you need a more powerful card.
Cards I've picked are all about immediate board presence, haste of some kinda of ETB or resilience against removal to lessen the impact of having people just zap your creature youve just spent 6-7 mana casting. You also should be able to go pretty tall, sometimes wide, to help guard against being blanked by a wrath or something.
Combos are of course Kikijiki+Zealous Conscripts, also Sword of Feast and Famine/Bear Umbra/Savagevent maw + Hellkite charger/Aggravated assault is looped combat. I also have Dark Depths + Vesuvan/Thespian state, which is a little vestigial from the last Heart of Keld variant but Hasnt felt too greedy yet? Might be though.
I should probably have the Eldrazi Titans, Blightsteel stuff like that but no one in my group really has them and I kinda dislike them so I havent yet. It also would take a little restructuring curve wise. The way its built now is really more hit the ground running at T4 and then never look back some of the bigger boys you'd need another ramp spell or a mana doubler to be reliably getting them out.
Right now I am really considering these cards but I am not sure what to cut :/
I am leaning towards cutting Scapeshift, its obviously great and can be a huge swing if you have enough lands to Valakut,Dark depths or Field of the Dead off but I've drawn it a couple times now and had it sit in my hand. Maybe Kamahl too? I dunno. I think I need 1-2 more big baddies and maybe try to fit in Helm of the host too? If anyone has other suggestions of card choice either for the creatures or anything else lemme know!
I too created a Radha Deck, my first and only. Dont sleep on Regal Behemmoth. I think helm of the host is too slow and anyone can destroy it. Nyxbloom ancient is great. Not a fan of Bloodbraid elf as it can run into cards you dont want. not high on Ruric Thar, hitting yourself. I read you were thinking about rishkar's Expertise, I am running it now and do not like it as all too often I do not have a big creature in play to justify the cost of the spell nad or already have a bunch of cards in my hand from the other cards that enable me to draw every time a creature is cast or comes into play. How often do you use Valakut to good use? Do you get wins with scapeshift? I kind of think Valakut is something that you would shape your deck around, a different archetype.
For Unnatural Growth I would remove the same cards and the thought of playing Froghemoth after landing this card sound very attractive; something like +1 Professor, +2 Froghemoth for ultimate 'Timmyness'
Edit 9/13/21
Concerning Unnatural Growth I made this list:
4 Jaspera Sentinel
4 Werewolf Pack Leader
4 Old-Growth Troll
4 Kazandu Mammoth
4 Gnarled Professor - tool box to get what we might need game 1
2 Vorinclex, monstrous Raider - pet card, love it too much
Spells - 16
4 Blizzard Brawl
3 Snakeskin Veil - protect my fatties
4 Ranger Class
2 Inscription of Abundance
3 Unnatural Growth - maybe 2 is right but I want to draw them during this testing period
16 Snow Forest
3 Faceless Haven
3 Lair of the Hydra
2 Froghemoth - control decks
2 Outland Liberator
1 Plummet - dragons
1 Toski, Bearer of Secrets - control decks
1 Esika's Chariot - control decks, 'wide' decks
1 Snakeskin Veil - control decks
1 Inscription of Abundance - life gain/removal
2 Introduction to Annihilation - koma, multi-purpose
2 Expanded Anatomy
1 Containment Breach - decks with lots of Artifacts/enchants
1 Mascot Exhibition
I love the Idea of having Troll, Symmetrist or Professor in play then playing Unnatural growth, or having it in play then playing Froghemoth or Vorinclex!!!
I am starting this thread to start discussions of Mono Green headed into rotation. Here is my stating list:
+2 X: Main deck outland Liberator, Gnarlid Colony, Swarm Shambler, Deathbonnet Sprout
4 Jaspera Sentinel
4 Werewolf Pack Leader
4 Old-Growth Troll
4 Kazandu Mammoth
3 Gnarled Professor - tool box to get what we might need game 1
2 Vorinclex, monstrous Raider - pet card, love it too much
Spells - 15
4 Blizzard Brawl
2 Snakeskin Veil
4 Ranger Class
2 Inscription of Abundance
3 Esika's Chariot
16 Snow Forest
3 Faceless Haven
3 Lair of the Hydra
2 Froghemoth - control decks
2 Outland Liberator - decks with arts and enchants
1 Toski, Bearer of Secrets - control decks
1 Esika's Chariot - control and 'wide' decks
1 Plummet - dragons
1 Snakeskin Veil - control decks
1 Inscription of Abundance - life gain/removal
2 Introduction to Annihilation - koma, multi-purpose
2 Expanded Anatomy
1 Containment Breach - decks with lots of Artifacts/enchants
1 Mascot Exhibition
-4 Blizzard Brawl, -1 Inscription of abundance, +2 Toski, +2 Froghemoth, +1 Snakeskin Veil.
Vs Dragons
+1 Plummet, -1 blizzard/inscription
Vs Mono Red or something aggressive also creature heavy decks
-1 vorinclex, +1 inscription
My list differs from top lists thus far. Here is the latest event I know of to this date:https://mtgazone.com/top-8-standard-2022-decks-tgs-open-8-22/
Most are not running Vorinclex and have too many man lands in my opinion. For example the 1st place list runs 8 man lands, 24 total lands but also 4 Mammoths so that is 8 lands that could delay blizzard brawl from doing its thing. Maybe the plan with a list like that is to use the man lands without reservation treating them more as creatures than lands. I am taking the approach to minimize total land count increasing spell count while maintaining maximum snow land count to enable blizzard brawl.
I dont think 4 Professors is the right number. Im surprised not to see Introduction of Annihilation in the sideboard. I think he should have a 2nd or 3rd Containment Breach removing the 3rd Toski and pest summoning. Maybe Pest summoning is better in blocking creatures then gaining life, but he already has access to 4 life gain spells and 8 removal spells so against aggressive decks pest summing shouldn't be needed.
The 3rd place list is closer to my main except this guy was running Froghemoth main over my Vorinclex and his land base is closer to mine. The main difference is the lack of though in my opinion on the sideboard.
With all the above being said i have switched over to a snow version with a lower mana curve and more removal:
Current deck list is:
4 Swarm Shambler - more creatures to mutate on, earlier aggression
4 Stonecoil Serpent - ignores Binding of the gods
4 Scavenging Ooze - main deck for rogues and cycling
4 Werewolf Pack Leader
4 Lovestruck Beast
4 Kazandu Mammoth
4 Gemrazer
4 Blizzard Brawl
3 Primal Might - green Fireball
3 The Great Henge
Lands - 22
18 Snow forest
2 Faceless Haven
2 Lair of the Hydra - enables Lovstruck to attack
3 Weathered Runestone - for winota. Once they start packing Artifact hate we're screwed
2 Chainweb Aracnir - does work against Rogues
2 Thrashing Brontodon - cleave and henge
2 Questing Beast - control, Sultai
2 Garruk, Unleashed - control, Sulltai
2 Garruk's Harbinger - use against decks with heavy black removal
2 Ram Through - Winota, replaces primal might
If I were to stick with Vorinclex then my list would look like this with Realms of the forgotten out; -2 Old Growth Troll, +2 Werewolf Pack Leader, +2 Lair of the Hydra, -1 Crawling Barrens and -1 Forest = lowering the curve plus sideboard changes.
Current deck list is:
2 Swarm Shambler - more creatures to mutate on, earlier aggression
4 Stonecoil Serpent - ignores Binding of the gods
4 Scavenging Ooze - main deck for rogues and cycling
2 Werewolf Pack Leader
4 Tangled Florahedron - accelerate from 2 to 4, 4 to 6 for vorinclex with castle, enables lovestruck beast
4 Lovestruck Beast
4 Kazandu Mammoth
4 Gemrazer
3 Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider
2 Ram Through - non-fight removal
2 Primal Might - green Fireball
3 The Great Henge
Lands - 20
13 forest
4 Castle Garenbrig
2 Lair of the Hydra
1 Bonder's Enclave
3 Weathered Runestone - Winota
2 Chainweb Aracnir - does work against Rogues
2 Thrashing Brontodon - cleave and henge
2 Questing Beast - control/Sultai
2 Garruk, Unleashed - control/Sultai
2 Garruk's Harbinger - use against decks with heavy black removal
1 Primal Might - creature matchups
1 Ram Through - creature matchups
hmmm......ok. Im reviewing my deck taken what you said into consideration. I believe Vorinclex is unnecessary, Phylath too, Embercleave is probably "win-more", I have cast it but didnt do the math to determine if it mattered. I got the idea for Embercleave and Terror of Mt. Velus from Magda's 5 treasure ability but since excluding Jaspera Sentinel that doesn't come up much at all plus im more likely to use the treasures to cast spells. Henge can go own to 2 as I mentioned in the list. All being said I am going to try: -2 Vorinclex, -1 Henge, -1 Phylath, -1 embercleave, +2 Questing Beast, +3 Sentinel. New list:
4 Jaspera Sentinel
4 Magda, Brazen Outlaw
2 Gallia of the Endless Dance
2 Targ Nar, Demon-Fang Gnoll
2 Grumgully, the Generous
2 Klothys, God of Destiny
2 Radha, Heart of Keld - get those lands off the top out of the way!
3 Esika, God of the Tree - Vigilance and EXTRA mana is key!
3 Birgi, God of Storytelling - every spell cast gives 1 mana, sometimes thats all you need to keep the train going
3 Kolvari, God of Kindship - mana rock on elf early, potential 8/8 with vigilance late with ability to find that legendary creature to go off when you are empty handed
1 Nylea, Keen-eyed - make creatures cost 1 less, mana adds up quickly with Birgi when spells are free, helps keep the train going
1 Umori, the collector - makes creatures cost 1 less, same reason as nylea
1 Purphoros, Bronze-Blooded - added him to give everyone haste once I go off
1 Inferno of the star Mounts - wanted a 6 drop to find Purphoros is Vivien is in play, can also fetch with Magda and blocks fliers
4 Bard Class
2 Vivien, Monsters' Advocate - playing off the top keep the train going! Maybe 1 of?
Lands - 23
9 Forest
4 Mountain
4 Cragcrown Pathway // Timbercrown Pathway
4 Shatterskull Smashing // Shatterskull, the Hammer Pass
2 Temple of Abandon - took out 1 World tree for the 3rd one. With so many gods and huge mana potential with Esika
4 Redcap Melee - mono red, Winota, dragons
3 Chainweb Aracnir - rogues/mill
3 Scavenging Ooze - cycling, rogues ~ but less so
1 Arni Brokenbrow - control decks, more aggro, faster
1 Arasta of the Endless Web - any deck with a lot of spells, decks with fliers
2 Questing Beast - control
1 Phylath, Worlds Sculptor - creature decks
I did notice a strict issue with fliers so Sentinel is very helpful there and Arasta of the Endless Web might be main deck worthy. I am going to pay closer attention to Zirda to see if her abilities are worth the slot over 1 Sentinel.
7/6 edit: Zirda's out, 4th Sentinel in, Henge and terror of mt velus out, going to 3 Esika and Birgi to ensure I see them more as having more mana to power to class 3 as soon as possible is more likily plus using their back sides are useful.
Leaving 1 vorinclex in as a way to search up purphoros if vivien is in play. Having haste on the turn you go off is a must.
first draft SB
7/22 edit: focusing on going off more than just playing hasty, -2 Questing Beast, -1 Vorinclex, -1 forest, +3 Kolvari, +1 Inferno, edited the SB
If I were to go 'Hasty' it would look like this:
4 Jaspera Sentinel
4 Magda, Brazen Outlaw
3 Gallia of the Endless Dance
3 Targ Nar, Demon-Fang Gnoll
3 Grumgully, the Generous
2 Klothys, God of Destiny
2 Radha, Heart of Keld - get those lands off the top out of the way!
1 Birgi, God of Storytelling
2 Arni Brokenbrow
2 Esika, God of the Tree - Vigilance and EXTRA mana is key!
3 Kolvari, God of Kindship - mana rock on elf early, potential 8/8 with vigilance late with ability to find that legendary creature to go off when you are empty handed
2 Questing Beast
1 Vorinclex, monstrous Raider
4 Bard Class
1 Vivien, Monsters' Advocate - playing off the top keep the train going! Maybe 1 of?
Lands - 23
9 Forest
4 Mountain
4 Cragcrown Pathway // Timbercrown Pathway
4 Shatterskull Smashing // Shatterskull, the Hammer Pass
2 Temple of Abandon - took out 1 World tree for the 3rd one. With so many gods and huge mana potential with Esika
4 Redcap Melee - mono red, Winota, dragons
3 Chainweb Aracnir - rogues/mill
3 Scavenging Ooze - cycling, rogues ~ but less so
1 Arasta of the Endless Web - any deck with a lot of spells, decks with fliers
1 Phylath, Worlds Sculptor - creature decks
Here is an absolute fun, glass cannon-ish Gruul deck that is new for standard. I found out about it on "CoolStuffInc." from MTG pro Jim Davis; Bard Class. Since running the deck a around 30 times I have made some changes and am having an absolute BLAST!
The goal is to have a hand with Bard class in it, don't be afraid to mull to 4, seriously, its that explosive! Turn 2 Bard Class, Turn3 pay RG to go to level 2 then hopefully you'll have some creatures to play and from there its all about putting your library in play.
4 Magda, Brazen Outlaw
2 Gallia of the Endless Dance
2 Targ Nar, Demon-Fang Gnoll
2 Grumgully, the Generous
2 Klothys, God of Destiny
2 Radha, Heart of Keld - get those lands off the top out of the way!
2 Esika, God of the Tree - Vigilance and EXTRA mana is key!
2 Birgi, God of Storytelling - every spell cast gives 1 mana, sometimes thats all you need to keep the train going
1 Zirda, the Dawnwaker - makes Bard class level 3 cost 2 less to increase the chance you have enough mana to go off. Purphoros and Nylea ability costs 1, reduces Radha's and Targ's ability as well
1 Nylea, Keen-eyed - make creatures cost 1 less, mana adds up quickly with Birgi when spells are free, helps keep the train going
1 Umori, the collector - makes creatures cost 1 less, same reason as nylea
1 Purphoros, Bronze-Blooded - added him to give everyone haste once I go off
1 Phylath, World Sculptor - more dudes
2 Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider - more counters for everyone and trample
1 Terror of Mount Velus - double strike for everyone and when paired with Purphoros its lights out!
4 Bard Class
2 Vivien, Monsters' Advocate - playing off the top keep the train going!
1 Embercleave - casting this for 1 with Birgi's red mana is awesome!
3 The Great Henge - probably could get away with 2
Lands - 24
8 Forest
5 Mountain
4 Cragcrown Pathway // Timbercrown Pathway
4 Shatterskull Smashing // Shatterskull, the Hammer Pass
3 Temple of Abandon - took out 1 World tree for the 3rd one. With so many gods and huge mana potential with Esika
I have posted some ridiculous screenshots from Arena to show how crazy things can get
The mana.....
With the new set I have not looked at any new brews so maybe something is out there but even with Pathways I had games where I would get tripped on color requirements with Gruul Adventures.
Current deck list is:
2 Swarm Shambler - more creatures to mutate on, earlier aggression
4 Stonecoil Serpent - ignores Binding of the gods
4 Scavenging Ooze - main deck for rogues and cycling
4 Tangled Florahedron - accelerate from 2 to 4, 4 to 6 for vorinclex with castle, enables lovestruck beast
3 Old-Growth Troll - not a bad mutate target for gemrazer
4 Lovestruck Beast
4 Kazandu Mammoth
4 Gemrazer
3 Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider
2 Ram Through - non-fight removal
2 Primal Might - green Fireball
1 Vivien, Monsters' Advocate - instead of 4th Henge
3 The Great Henge
Lands - 20
14 forest
4 Castle Garenbrig
1 Crawling Barrens - good card against Ugin and control, mana sink
1 Bonder's Enclave
4 Garruk's Harbinger - use against decks with heavy black removal
3 Chainweb Aracnir - does work against Rogues
2 Questing Beast - for Sultai, before they go off, other control
2 Thrashing Brontodon - cleave and henge
2 Ram Through - creature matchups
2 Primal Might - creature matchups
4 Edgewall Innkeeper - temur adventure package to draw cards and stay alive
4 Lovestruck Beast
4 Bonecrusher Giant
4 Brazen Borrower
4 Terror of the Peaks - Play Body and win
Spells - 17
4 Footfall Crater - Haste AND Trample to body at 7 mana
2 Kazuul's Fury - fling for Body
4 Fire Prophecy - help stay alive and find pieces
4 Cultivate - fix and ramp
3 Body of Research
4 Ketria Triome
2 Cragcrown Pathway
2 Riverglide Pathway
2 Barkchannel Pathway
2 Temple of Epiphany
1 Temple of Mystery
1 Temple of Abandon
3 Forest
2 Island
2 Mountain
2 The World Tree - very useful untapping at 7 mana
The mana base is suspect but I'll test it out. Obviously this deck is a standard Temur adventures but instead of Genesis Ultimatum or taking more turns we have terror of the peaks and Body of research to try and win. I plan to play the deck as winning when you play body of research so that means only casting the spell if Terror is in play or with 7 mana and a footfall crater or at 8 mana and Kazuul's fury. Of course the deck can still win without the spell and the threat of the spell is so great you can sideboard it out for a different style to next level the opponent with other cards.
Some other cards in the 'Maybe board": the Royal Scions giving haste to Body same turn at 6 mana, Garruk's Uprising giving trample to Body and drawing a card, Crashing Drawbridge enables haste, tuktuk rubblefortanother haste enabler, Garruk, Unleashed trample enabler.
I think 6 mana targeting a trample creature is the goal, any additional mana is a bonus
1 Swarm Shambler - 30th creature, good gemrazer target
4 Stonecoil Serpent - ignores Binding of the gods
4 Scavenging Ooze - main deck for rogues and cycling
4 Tangled Florahedron - accelerate from 2 to 4, 4 to 6 for vorinclex with castle, enables lovestruck beast, lowers total land count
3 Old-Growth Troll - not a bad mutate target for gemrazer
4 Lovestruck Beast
4 Kazandu Mammoth
4 Gemrazer
2 Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider
2 Ram Through - non-fight removal
2 Primal Might - green Fireball
2 Exponential Growth
1 Vivien, Monsters' Advocate - instead of 4th Henge
3 The Great Henge
Lands - 20
14 Snow forest
4 Castle Garenbrig
2 Faceless Haven
4 Garruk's Harbinger - use against decks with heavy black removal
3 Chainweb Aracnir - does work against Rogues
2 Questing Beast - for Sultai, before they go off, other control
2 Thrashing Brontodon - cleave and henge
2 Ram Through - creature matchups
2 Primal Might - creature matchups
-1 Vorinclex, -1 Wildborn Preserver for +2 Exponential Growth. I'm going to try it on Arena. 13 trample creatures to ensure the damage gets through. Snow lands to make faceless Haven hitting for 8 or 16 a possibility.
Another thing that occurred to me is having 4 Hedrons over Caryatids is that I would have 30 lands; maybe I could get rid of a forest and Turntimber Symbiosis for 2 more spells. 28 total lands then +1Primal might and +1Ram through or Snakeskin Veil??? That would make more room in the sideboard, for whatever, +2 Questing Beast??
It would look like this:
4 Stonecoil Serpent - ignores Binding of the gods
4 Scavenging Ooze - main deck for rogues and cycling
4 Tangled Florahedron - accelerate from 2 to 4, 4 to 6 for vorinclex with castle, enables lovestruck beast
2 Wildborn Preserver - this is creature # 31, trying it out. Maybe fiend Artisan?
3 Old-Growth Troll - not a bad mutate target for gemrazer
4 Lovestruck Beast
4 Kazandu Mammoth
4 Gemrazer
3 Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider
2 Ram Through - non-fight removal
2 Primal Might - green Fireball
1 Vivien, Monsters' Advocate - instead of 4th Henge
3 The Great Henge
Lands - 20
14 forest
4 Castle Garenbrig
1 Crawling Barrens - good card against Ugin and control, mana sink
1 Bonder's Enclave
4 Garruk's Harbinger - use against decks with heavy black removal
3 Chainweb Aracnir - does work against Rogues
2 Questing Beast - for Sultai, before they go off, other control
2 Thrashing Brontodon - cleave and henge
2 Ram Through - creature matchups
2 Primal Might - creature matchups
I fear keeping 1 turntimber symbiosis will affect my forest count for troll and castle so I will keep track how many times I miss it.
3/15/21: I jammed a lot of games on area this weekend with this configuration of removing Caryatids for Florahedrons and my theory played out. It was a little difficult determining whether or not Cary would have been better then Flora because some of those situations played out where I play Flora as a land Turn1 then draw lands. For example I have a hand with 2 lands and 1 Flora then play it turn 1 then turn 2 draw another land THEN it remains to be unknown whether or not the opponent had T2 removal. Despite that I counted many times where having the card in hand enabled me to keep my hand as Flora was my 3rd guaranteed land or it enabled me to curve into other spells.
The question is now what takes the 2 spots as I removed 1 forest and the Turntimber Symbiosis. Right now I got +1 Primal Might and +1 Wildborn preserver or Fiend Artisan ~ trying it out.
Fiend artisan seems good against rogues and untapping with it could be good if I had 7 mana and a chump then I could search out Vorinclex. Otherwise against rogues artisan could be huge and mutating Gemrazer on it would make it bigger and give it trample. With 4 ram through already being brought in against rogues it might be big enough to kill the opponent out right.
3/23/21:
fiend artisan was never good, interestingly enough I never played it against Rogues but main decking a card that is only hypothetically good against 1 deck isn't worth it. Online I am playing 2 Wildborn Preservers and they are ok.
In paper I have removed Battle Mammoths back for Swarm Shamblers until I get Vorinclex in paper, Mammoths just dont fit the curve.
4 Swarm Shambler - playing over Battle Mammoth, until I get Vorinclex
4 Stonecoil Serpent - ignores Binding of the gods now
4 Scavenging Ooze - main deck for rogues, rakdos, cycling
4 Ilysian Caryatid - accelerate from 2 to 4, 4 to 6 for vorinclex with castle, enables lovestruck beast. With power
3 Old-Growth Troll - not a bad mutate target for gemrazer
4 Lovestruck Beast
4 Kazandu Mammoth
4 Gemrazer
2 Ram Through - non-fight removal
2 Primal Might - green Fireball
2 Turntimber Symbiosis - better than a land late game
3 The Great Henge
Lands - 20
15 forest
2 Castle Garenbrig
2 Crawling Barrens - good card against Ugin and control, mana sink
1 Bonder's Enclave
4 Garruk's Harbinger - use against decks with heavy black removal
3 Chainweb Aracnir - does work against Dimir Rogues
2 Thrashing Brontodon - cleave and henge
2 Snakeskin Veil - trying this out
2 Primal Might - creature matchups
2 Ram Through - creature matchups
4 Stonecoil Serpent - T1/2 with T3 Razer enbles T4 Henge
4 Swarm Shambler - T1/2 with T3 Razer enables T4 Henge
4 Scavenging Ooze - auto include due to rogues and Kroxa
4 Ilysian Caryatid - replaces Cobra makes 2 mana regardless of landfall and enables Lovestruck
3 Garruk's Harbinger - 3 mana for 4 power to enable Caryatid, good against Rogues and Dimir
4 Lovestruck Beast - enables T4 Henge
4 Kazandu Mammoth - T4 land drop enable T4 Henge
4 Gemrazer - mutate on Shambler or Coil for 6 power on T3
4 Ram through - non-fight removal, instant speed, direct damage
4 Turntimber Symbiosis - good in flood, bury OP after henge
3 The Great Henge
Lands - 20
13 forest
2 Castle Garenbrig
2 Crawling Barrens - good card against Ugin and control, mana sink
1 Bonder's Enclave
4 Primal Might - creature matchups
3 Questing Beast - control, replaces harbinger or Gemrazer
3 Chainweb Aracnir - does work against Dimir Rogues
2 Thrashing Brontodon - cleave and henge
2 Sorcerous Spyglass - Ugin
1 Garruk's Harbinger - decks with a lot of black removal
The new cards I am going to be adding are: +3 Old-growth troll, -3 Garruk's Harbinger, +3 Battle Mammoth, +1 Vivien, Monster's Advocate, -4 Swarm Shambler. I sacrificed the possibility of playing T4 Henge by mutating on T1/2 Swarm Shambler for a better card in other stages of the game with Battle Mammoth. Being able to cast Mammoth on T4 then Henge on 5 is still good.
We'll see about Old-Growth Troll over harbinger as harbinger had a leg up on Rogues and Dimir and I have to worry less about not hitting GGG on T3 by play one of my 3 colorless lands.
4 Stonecoil Serpent - T1/2 with T3 Razer enbles T4 Henge
4 Scavenging Ooze
4 Ilysian Caryatid - replaces Cobra makes 2 mana regardless of landfall and enables Lovestruck
3 Old-Growth Troll - replacing Garruk's Harbinger
4 Lovestruck Beast - enables T4 Henge
4 Kazandu Mammoth - T4 land drop enable T4 Henge
4 Gemrazer - mutate on Shambler or Coil for 6 power on T3
3 Battle Mammoth - replacing Swarm Shambler
3 Ram Through - non-fight removal
1 Primal Might - green Fireball
1 Vivien, Monsters' Advocate - in stead of 4th Henge
2 Turntimber Symbiosis - good in flood, bury OP after henge
3 The Great Henge
Lands - 20
15 forest
2 Castle Garenbrig
2 Crawling Barrens - good card against Ugin and control, mana sink
1 Bonder's Enclave
3 Garruk's Harbinger - decks heavy with black removal
3 Chainweb Aracnir - does work against Dimir Rogues
2 Questing beast
2 Thrashing Brontodon - cleave and henge
2 Sorcerous Spyglass - Ugin
2 Primal Might - creature matchups
1 Ram Through - creature matchups
T4 land drop and Beast or Mammoth in play - 2 ways
Caryatid with 4 power creature; Razer(mutated requires 4th land drop), troll or Snake (land drop not required) - 1 required creature with 1 of 12 others
A 5/5 or 6/6 Gemrazer mutated onto a snake - 1 required creature with 1 of 4 others
2/3/21
I took out 2 Turntimber Symbiosis for 2 forest as when the Troll dies I need a forest in play and there have been times I didnt have a forest or not enough! Also it isnt too often that I would actually play the spell, more often then not I was dealing with the cons of the land side. ALSO I learned if you mutate onto Troll and it gets killed both the Troll and the mutate card can go onto a forest for DOUBLE ramp and double 4/4s.
Also I added 1 Primal Might main and moved a Ram through to the sideboard. I cut the forth Henge for a Vivien, I was drawing too many henges and my opening hand had too many in them. Vivien plays well with Henge, great fun.
Over time I am sure that those 2 sorcerous spyglass and 1 Questing beasts will turn into 3 Vorinclex, Monsterous Raider as that card is just insane!
2/5/21
Testing vorinclex over Battle Mammoth to see if I like it better, I am sure I will. Main deck answers for sagas and Ugin/planeswalkers, double counters for stonecoil and creatures from the henge, 6/6 haste(clear some spots in the sideboard). Poor Mammoth and poor wallet if this turns out better. I will be also adding 2 castles and removing 2 forests to ensure I can cast Vorinclex at 5 mana.
2/8/21
Here is Crokeyz's version of Mono green he tried out using The Ozolith https://app.cardboard.live/s/crokeyz.
Here is an 8-1 list from Rumti: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3742336#online
2/9/21
Here is the list I am running on Arena
4 Stonecoil Serpent - ignores Binding of the gods
4 Scavenging Ooze - main deck for rogues and rakdos
4 Ilysian Caryatid - accelerate from 2 to 4, 4 to 6 for vorinclex with castle, enables lovestruck beast
3 Old-Growth Troll - no a bad mutate target for gemrazer
4 Lovestruck Beast
4 Kazandu Mammoth
4 Gemrazer
3 Vorinclex Monsterous Raider
2 Ram Through - non-fight removal
2 Primal Might - green Fireball
1 Vivien, Monsters' Advocate - instead of 4th Henge
1 Turntimber Symbiosis - better than a land late game
3 The Great Henge
Lands - 21
15 forest
4 Castle Garenbrig
1 Crawling Barrens - good card against Ugin and control, mana sink
1 Bonder's Enclave
4 Garruk's Harbinger - use against decks with heavy black removal
3 Chainweb Aracnir - does work against Dimir Rogues
2 Thrashing Brontodon - cleave and henge
2 Snakeskin Veil - trying this out
2 Primal Might - creature matchups
2 Ram Through - creature matchups
+3 vorinclex, -3 Battle Mammoth. Only 1 turntimber symbiosis, 4 castles for vorinclex, more forests, only 1 crawling barrens now. 2/2 split of ram through and primal might.
2/16/21
I am currently shopping for good deals on Vorinclex as it is the better card over Battle Mammoth. I know that is a completely obvious statement but my testing has 100% solidified it. To date I am 40-18 in 12 "Traditional Standard Event"s on MtgA, the event that costs 1000 gold and is best of three. Due to the power of Vorinclex's haste, it makes me think of a more aggro version of mono green that plays 4 questing beast, 4 Garruk's Harbinger and 6-8 removal spells main.
have you updated your list since this?
Here is mine for comparison.