Welcome back! I'm sure I'm not the only one that misses playing with you.
Same! Eventually realized mafia was just too much of a time sink for me, even considering how much I liked playing and the people. Might have some time off soon though; considering dipping back in for a game.
I don't play mafia anymore because I don't have the energy, but I miss doing so, and it brings be great pleasure to see that MTGS is still at it. Insane to recognize as many names in this thread as I do.
Kpaca, I was not available for a team game in July as I was busy unionizing and moving across the country, but the offer is very much appreciated.
Bur, I don't think we've met, but sorry for not responding more promptly to inquiries about whether I'm still up for being an active reviewer. I'm evidently not.
Y'all are great. Consider not using the word lynch in games anymore. If anyone super wants to get in touch, I'll probably pop back in here within the next few days.
Your plan will essentially replace the current queue structure with larger Minis and two Sepcialty queues. I don't believe this is at all sustainable, and is an overly complicated attempt to solve the problem. The problem at hand is that Normals are unpopular and fill slowly. This is caused by them being perceived/designed as large Basics, which seems to be mostly a result of the League. By discontinuing the League and having this discussion around Normal design space, we should see Normals bounce back to more interesting games that still fill their niche of being less complex than Specialties. No new queues needed, no major revamp necessary.
I agree with this, except I love the idea of raising the playercap on minis to 14.
Although for this to work, you should really make sure the upcoming normals are indeed a bit more complex than "large basics".
I'll make sure real comments when I am in front of a computer, but Iso, do you not see a recurring theme? Even if you were 100 percent correct, you acted and used your interactions in a way to almost guarantee no one would listen to you. Even your redirection play was pure selfishness.
I agree with this largely, except for the redirection part. Iso getting investigated was a good call - then the next day people would've listened to him! Imagine if he hadn't been killed off. He probably would've been able to push his worldview through to maybe even win the game despite his horrible mass claim.
I don't want to rush a game along any more than I have to, especially on day 4. But at the same time, it's my responsibility to keep the game moving at a reasonable pace if the players are not doing so. I understand that the holidays are a busy time, but I think it's time to set a deadline.
A deadline has been set for Wednesday, December 30th.
This is longer than I would otherwise give because Christmas is living in there. If the game appears to be moving forward at that time (two weeks from now...) I will consider extending the deadline.
To expand further, I would classify the three essential complexity levels as such:
- Basic (or "Simple" or "Classic"): a game with a majority of vanilla roles, no game mechanics not included in the basic definition of Mafia, a single scum-team, and simple roles everyone should know (as is).
- Advanced: a game with no game mechanics not included in the basic definition of Mafia, but no restriction with regards to roles, number of vanillas or number of scum-teams.
- Specialty: a game in which everything is possible (especially if the reviewers were in a coma for the entire reviewing process).
Nailed it.
The conversation should be about whether there's a player base to support all 3 of these levels of complexity at varying sizes, and if not, how to compromise around that.
Same! Eventually realized mafia was just too much of a time sink for me, even considering how much I liked playing and the people. Might have some time off soon though; considering dipping back in for a game.
I don't play mafia anymore because I don't have the energy, but I miss doing so, and it brings be great pleasure to see that MTGS is still at it. Insane to recognize as many names in this thread as I do.
Kpaca, I was not available for a team game in July as I was busy unionizing and moving across the country, but the offer is very much appreciated.
Bur, I don't think we've met, but sorry for not responding more promptly to inquiries about whether I'm still up for being an active reviewer. I'm evidently not.
Y'all are great. Consider not using the word lynch in games anymore. If anyone super wants to get in touch, I'll probably pop back in here within the next few days.
Goodbye.
Oh. That the heck. Kinda.
Azrael changed his avatar?
One of them was me. Also possible Taredas self-voted.
I wish, but I won't have the time later, either.
I agree with this, except I love the idea of raising the playercap on minis to 14.
Although for this to work, you should really make sure the upcoming normals are indeed a bit more complex than "large basics".
I agree with this largely, except for the redirection part. Iso getting investigated was a good call - then the next day people would've listened to him! Imagine if he hadn't been killed off. He probably would've been able to push his worldview through to maybe even win the game despite his horrible mass claim.
(4) Seppel - Gentleman Johnny, Jobie, Sir Chris, Prophylaxis
(1) Gentleman Johnny - Taredas
Not Voting: Seppel
You all circle around Seppel, put a gun to his back and march him to the gallows. Put his head through the noose, pull the lever, and--
"That's all, folks."
As Seppel AKA Grace, Vanilla Townie falls to his death, someone pulls out a gun and fires.
Jobie AKA Bubba, Vanilla Townie looks down at his chest and the gaping hole that's just been put in it. He turns.
Taredas AKA Scooter, Vanilla Townie drops next. His brains fly across the wood of the gallows, and his body topples to the ground.
Then it's just three.
"Aw sh--". The last words of many men, including Gentleman Johnny AKA Barnes, Vanilla Townie.
And then there were two. Just two mafiosos standing at the center of a town full of bodies. A ghost town.
"Huh," says Sir Chris AKA Robin, Mafia Roleblocker. "That was easier than I expected."
Prophylaxis AKA Susan, Mafia Goon just smiles, and the two of them lock eyes.
The game has ended in a mafia victory. Congrats to the mafia, all of whom played a great game.
Spectator thread here: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/cvAqrNu2b6M
(2) Seppel - Gentleman Johnny, Jobie
(1) Gentleman Johnny - Taredas
Not Voting: Jobie, Prophylaxis, Seppel, Sir Chris, Taredas
With 6 alive it's 4 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Wednesday, December 30th.
EDIT: as pointed out, Seppel is not voting Seppel. Jobie is.
A deadline has been set for Wednesday, December 30th.
This is longer than I would otherwise give because Christmas is living in there. If the game appears to be moving forward at that time (two weeks from now...) I will consider extending the deadline.
(1) Seppel - Gentleman Johnny
Not Voting: Jobie, Prophylaxis, Seppel, Sir Chris, Taredas
With 6 alive it's 4 to lynch.
Nailed it.
The conversation should be about whether there's a player base to support all 3 of these levels of complexity at varying sizes, and if not, how to compromise around that.