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Quote from Eryops »

I was watching a video on 7th edition foils, and remembered that I had a pair of foil Thorn Elementals and was curious if they were worth anything. Turns out, they're utter jank and worth ~$0.50 while the next least expensive foiled rare is $5. Is there a reason for this disparity? Was it a promo that there's millions of? That's my only assumption, and I wouldn't waste time asking here, but Google isn't helpful when you put in a MTG card and the word 'price' together in the search bar :/

It *was* in fact a promo that was given away by the bushel.

I believe that for 8th Edition it was Elvish Champion. For 9th Edition it was definitely Serra Angel.

Hey there. Jeff Menges is not a particularly rare nor reclusive artist. His signature doesn't carry a huge premium. You're looking at maybe a $5 card (UL Raiders is $0.50).

Sort by mid. Take your top 4 cards (the only ones that reach double digits) and sell them as singles. The rest you want to bundle all together and say "Someone please take this!" Nothing else is worth breaking out.

Quote from Faruel »

The green card Beast within is really old and I am sure they won't print anything close to than in green anymore.

NPH is "really old", eh? I really don't know what to say to that, except to start calling people whippersnappers and telling everyone to get off my lawn.

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Flusterstorm is now Modern legal.

Discuss.

Uhhh, Flusterstorm now costs more money. Nivmagus Elemental foils are worth a bit more- connected? (Is it legal NOW or when the set releases?)

What cards do you think will move as a result of Force of Negation? Perhaps something goofy like Misthollow Griffin?

The legality will change when the set releases.

Misthollow Griffin and Eternal Scourge are looking less and less goofy. It already combos with Food Chain in Legacy - if Food Chain gets reprinted into Modern, those will definitely spike.

Quote from Evil Never Dies »

3 is the minimum casting cost number of a PW. Tibalt was a failure and WotC isn't willing to make again that mistake.
Also, not interested in extremely weak and boring CC1 walkers, since the uncommon ones are already weak enough.

Don't dismiss the uncommon walkers out of hand. Saheeli looks really good to me, Tibalt actually has a role to play, Wanderer seems like she could be great in EDH, Narset is the Fun Police, and Jiang Yanggu can definitely enable shenanigans. These are all meant to be niche role-playing walkers, not generic "jam me in a deck and go!" walkers. You just have to find the right deck.

Also, for purposes of this discussion, does Kytheon, Hero of Akros count? He's a great card that was printed at exactly the wrong time for Standard. If he'd been in RTR block, he would've been format-defining.

Quote from Crazy Pierre »

Man, Last Supper vibes coming out of that art. Card is fairly decent too.

No artist credit yet, but I'd bet money on that being Howard Lyon's work. Howard has a background in religious illustration, so I'm not surprised that there's some significant influence.

You could say the same thing, but stop at Revised. "Why are the post-revised sets all only two or three digits of EV? The first few sets started out strong with four or five."

Yes, RTR was when the print runs ramped up hard, so there's a lot more supply. That's really the heart of the matter.

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Quote from Stoogeslap »

What will change in the near future is the Modern Set, as they (WotC R&D) most likely have a floor-length list of cards that would like to print that would (in their eyes) break standard. Maybe this is what keeps the EV down, R&D is walking on eggshells because they are so afraid of breaking standard and having to create a mid-season emergency ban of a card. If R&D would step out of their comfort zone, we might see some future sets have a higher EV after said set rotates out of Standard.

You say this shortly after one of the most ban-heavy Standards EVER rotated a few months ago. I don't think that R&D has been walking on eggshells worried about power level.

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Somebody is buying out mycosynth lattices on mcm. Battlebond copies have gone down 77% in stock.
https://www.cardmarket.com/en/Magic

Yeah, TCGp has spiked as well. Possibly related to the new Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge, but it might just be a run on a popular artifact.

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Anyone got a price idea for this? There's one in the recent sales on eBay for $999, but a best offer was accepted.

Unsigned ones are in the $400-$500 range. Chris Rush has passed away, but he wasn't terribly reclusive and Lightning Bolt was probably his most-signed card. That said, how many people would part with theirs? I'd probably ask closer to $750, but I can see a grand, especially if you're willing to wait a bit.

I think that is probably about the last thing you want to do, honestly.

Every bit of 'traditional wisdom' about this game's value goes completely out the door if our economy finally just crashes. Absolutetly none of it will be worth anything to anyone if half the country is unemployed. This and a whole lot of stuff would just...not matter at all anymore. Guys like Rudy will take the biggest fall. I already feel silly and I probably have 1/100th their collections. Why? Because frankly, I can't possibly move it all even if I wanted to (and belive me, I really do). USPS is the least reliable it has ever been--awesome.

I can't think of a worse possible place to sink that money. I advise people financially for a living. Want my honest advice? If you don't need it to pay rent or buy groceries? Take that money and retire some debt with it (credit card is almost always the best kind--it's outrageously expensive over time) and then *do not run it back up again*. I would advise you in the strongest possible terms not to invest in MtG as a longterm 'investment shelter' of any kind anymore. My two cents.

From the name I expected some kind of goblin giving away permanents. This is disappointing... :/

In February 2 of them sold on Ebay. 1 for $9000 and the other for $9300.

Probably a good indicator of the market.

Jesus.

Looks to me like someone is buying them up and spiking it on purpose. This card will always have a very real amount of organic demand because of what it does. It's like Panharmonicon. It just combos with everything. That said, I can't really account for the most recent spike based on this demand, or based on some other new card that was recently revealed.

Not the easiest target in the world as it was from a fairly recent set. Quite a few of these floating around out there. I think they are banking on the first factor I mentioned above: ubiquitous application & demand (long term). I would expect it will come back down but probably stabilize higher than it was before. That's what usually happens.

It is pretty spicey to see a rough print run for this product. Probably comprabale to the previous one as well.

They just updated to "more than 10 available". I don't know why I am watching the site, but it is kinda fun to know how many were printed.

At the end of the day, pimping your deck isn't/shouldn't be about them, it's about you. Which do you feel is cooler, the OG historical Alpha one or the unique art and frame of the Masterpiece one? They both have merit. I'd personally be more impressed with the Alpha one.

imo Alpha is the "wowest" and it's not close.

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