Magic Market Index for July 13th, 2018
 
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Treasure Cruisin' Modern UR Control
  • posted a message on The [Un]Official "Buy or Sell?" Thread!
    Quote from Aetherblade »
    Buy Fatal Push or wait? They're dropping right now and I think about getting into Modern, so I could use a playset. But I don't really know if they will drop further or hit their low soon. Also, FNM promo or regular set version? The set foil is more expensive, but the other two seem to be around the same price.

    At this point, the potential gain is less then $10 (it'll never be a $2 card) for a playset of ultrapremium removal cards that could be $10 each in a couple years?
    Fatal Push prices:
    Pack nonfoil: $4.50
    Pack foil: $15
    FNM foil: $6

    These are all pickups right now. I'd personally go for the FNM foil (that's where my playset is). I see that version rebounding to double-digits in the next couple years. The OG pack foil is great if you're willing to drop $60 on a playset, but I am not Smile
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  • posted a message on [[Official]] Trade Evaluation -- Pile A versus B
    Quote from Driemer84 »
    My:
    Invention Sword of Fire and Ice
    Invention Lightning Greaves

    for

    His:
    Signed Expedition Verdant Catacombs
    $25 cash

    What I'm really trying to do is turn my inventions into a City of Traitors or a dual land. I can throw the cash toward whatever card I'm looking at and I feel like expedition lands, especially the higher value ones, are more sought after than my sword and greaves.

    Quick blurb from the road.

    I definitely like fetch Expos better than non-rock Inventions or non-Force Invocations. That said, a couple things to note.

    1) Signed cards are cool, but you’re limiting your market. Some people don’t want to touch them, preferring their cards to be pristine.

    2) Do you have a prospective trading partner for the end goal? Someone who has a dual/City waiting for you? If so, make sure that you’re trading for what they want.

    3) “A dual or a City” is kind of a vague goal. Are you looking to make a high-powered EDH deck? Or are you just looking for something reserved to eventually turn into something even better?

    4) Cash is king. Good job getting him to make up the difference with cash.
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  • posted a message on [[Official]] Trade Evaluation -- Pile A versus B
    Quote from chongsen »
    Thanks. My only concern is it will break my playset lili (3 left). Most modern decks/ legacy decks only use up to 2 copy for now. Is it necessary to keep 4 copies ? When will next Modern Master release ? (Lili may drop price then)


    As Seal said, I wouldn't worry too much about breaking the playset.

    Gavin Verhey at WOTC has said that Modern Masters 2017 will be the last Modern Masters set for a while. WOTC wants to shake up how they handle their Masters sets, and they feel that they've hit Modern as a theme too much recently.

    I get that you're giving up very useful cards, but I guarantee you that you will always be able to reverse this trade, if you feel that you want the planeswalkers back - if not with your original trade partner, then with me.
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  • posted a message on Shocks
    Mostly your assessment is correct, but I wanted to call out this paragraph.
    Quote from NierAutomata »
    2. Card value is already too low. There are absolute minimums to which card prices can drop. A shockland can never be a penny. Why not? Because the price of the pack is $3.95 retail. It does not matter how many copies are out there, selling a shockland (the one rare in a pack) at a penny means someone somewhere somehow is taking a huge loss--player or game shop. Similarly reprinting mountains and islands does nothing to their price because they are more or less worthless.

    That's not at all why a shockland will never be a penny. Shocklands are expensive because they're heavily played in Modern and EDH, and thus there's significant demand for them. There are definitely rares that are worth a fraction of the price of a booster pack. The store isn't losing money on selling those because they're selling other rares (typically, in a set that includes them, shocklands) for more than the price of a pack.
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  • posted a message on [Compiled] Upcoming Promo Information
    OP has updated with new Judge foils, and new SDCC walkers.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Shocks
    Quote from illakunsaa »
    So lets assume that wotc reprints shocks in RtRtR what do you think will happen to shock prices?

    Go down, go up, stay the dame or get banned in Brawl?

    On average, drop slightly. If you just want a copy, they'll be a bit cheaper. If you have an OG copy to move, it'll go up a little. Supply will go way up, but so will demand.

    I also have no idea why they'd be instabanned in Brawl, a nascent singleton format that doesn't really care about what one mana-producing land can do.
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  • posted a message on [[Official]] Trade Evaluation -- Pile A versus B
    Quote from chongsen »
    My:
    Jace, the Mind Sculptor (WW)
    Lilina of the Veil x2 (INN)

    His:
    Polluted Delta Expedition


    Pile B, and don't look back?

    I mean, Polluted Delta Expo is $265 in theory, but there aren't any available for under $300. WWK Jace is $93, LOTV is $90 (for both walkers, NM replacement price is about equivalent to market price). While the 'walkers are really powerful cards that can't really be replaced by cheaper versions, that Expedition is not going to go down. Ever. More reprints (and they will be reprinted) will push the price of Jace and Lili down. This is my favorite kind of trade - expensive staple for premium expensive staple.
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  • posted a message on eBay Flash Sale Thread
    New code!

    PERFECTDAY

    15% off everything, min purchase $25.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
  • posted a message on Older storage boxes
    Quote from Dead_folk »
    I have some of the older card board storage boxes from 96 or 97. The one with juzam djinn and the red one with shiva dragon on it. They sale on eBay for a lot. Are they really worth that?

    They are worth exactly as much as they sell for. They're reasonably rare, they look pretty cool, and they're not too bad to ship. That said, the market for them is almost nonexistent. The demand is minimal, so very few sell. Check the completed listings - there's not much there. If you want to try to move them, find a decent price and expect to park them on eBay for a few months at least.
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  • posted a message on The [Un]Official "Buy or Sell?" Thread!
    Quote from YamahaR1 »
    Thank you for that. And to enlighten further, I have (I believe) all the mana rocks. Sol ring, Chrome Mox, Mox Opal, Mana Vault and Lotus petal. My other thoughts were I could have them graded to further the aid of sale (or increase collection value) and or I could put them in a custom acrylic coffin display with the five. Do you believe its more difficult to sell the mana rocks as a set, or more enticing to a collector?

    Absolutely it will be more difficult to sell them as a set. If you sell them individually, seven different people (you forgot Mana Crypt and Chromatic Lantern) will be able to splurge on one piece. If you sell them as a set, you're looking for the one person who just came into money and can afford your price, but hasn't picked up any of the individual pieces yet. Or you'll be looking at people who expect bulk discounts, which is the opposite of what you want. You can have them graded, but from what I've seen that doesn't really increase value for Inventions (not a huge sample size, though).
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  • posted a message on The Legacy Price Discussion Thread
    Quote from drakeavril »
    Did the duals just rise a bunch?

    Sort of? They're going up, but it's not a new thing. Scroll up and see that we've been talking about it since May. They've been on a steady rise for some weeks now.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
  • posted a message on The [Un]Official "Buy or Sell?" Thread!
    Quote from Soadi »
    So I didn't really know where to post this but what do you guys think of the Amonkhet Invocations right now? I might grab some for my collection starting on the least valuable one's. I don't think they will go much lower than this.

    I still think that they're extremely ugly :-D

    However, there is a market for them. Honestly, I think that the time has passed to pick up any MPS card for a flip. Pick it up if you want it in your collection (as I will continue to do), but with many of them the balloon has begun to go up. The price spikes have happened for most of them. There's not a lot of gain to be had.
    Quote from YamahaR1 »
    Thinking of selling Kaladesh inventions Sol Ring for near $400 but also thinking they'll never reprint that again.

    Also thinking of selling Diamond Valley. Its play value is nice, but for its current price I could pick up many other good singles (or invest the money elsewhere)

    If you can get $400 for your Sol Ring, I would go for it. While it's true they'll never reprint the Invention, the price has just gone up significantly. What're you going to do, hold on to it forever?

    Diamond Valley is a RL card that's been on an upward trend this past year. It's looking like the Market price is steadily rising while the asking price is in pretty serious flux. I'd hold on to that for now.
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  • posted a message on [[Official]] Trade Evaluation -- Pile A versus B
    Quote from KingAlanI »
    As for the relatively low premium for a foil Eternal Masters Mana Crypt:
    Masters packs have a foil in every one, so that might depress foil prices generally.
    On a card expensive even in nonfoil is there less room for growth?

    Also,

    My
    Chandra, Torch of Defiance
    Soul-Scar Mage
    3 Bomat Courier
    Veteran Explorer

    His:
    Dire Fleet Daredevil foil
    Earthshaker Khenra

    Value looks fairly even, swapped extras for cards I wanted for decks, but am I missing something here?

    Bomat Courier and Soul-Scar Mage are looking good in Standard right now, at least for the next few months. However, I really like the foil Daredevil. That's a card that will only get better as more cards get printed and definitely has Modern potential. Not sure I'd trade for the Khenra now, but if you have a Standard deck that wants it, then go for it. If the Chandra is extra, you could do a lot worse.
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  • posted a message on [[Official]] Trade Evaluation -- Pile A versus B
    Quote from chongsen »
    Quote from KnickM »
    Quote from chongsen »
    Pile A:
    Jace, the Mind Sculptor (WW)
    $40

    Pile B:
    Mana Crypt (EMA) FOIL

    I'd probably pick Pile A here. Pile B is the third-best foil of Mana Crypt. It's nice, but it's not really that nice. Another printing of Mana Crypt will hurt it. Meanwhile, you've got $40 cash and JTMS which can be easily flipped for cash at an event. I like the cash option.


    Thanks seems the foils in EMA is not much higher than regular ones. Why is that ?


    Like I said, it's the third-best foil, and I'd personally rank it below the original printing. Foils have value because people want to show off something cool, and if a foil isn't cool or desirable, the foil multiplier won't be very high. This version is significantly less cool than the MPS or the Judge foil.

    The other issue is that there just aren't too many copies of Mana Crypt out there, and it goes in pretty much every serious EDH deck. So a lot of people are buying these not because they want a foil, but just because they want a copy, any copy. That puts more pressure on the price of nonfois. If - excuse me, WHEN - Mana Crypt gets a reprint, a lot of people will say "Hey, I bet I can trade my foil Crypt for two regular ones", thus putting a lot more copies on the market and depressing the price of even the foils. It happened with the Judge foils when EMA came out, although they eventually bounced back pretty well. But personally, I don't feel like the coefficient of restitution for this version is as high.
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  • posted a message on [[Official]] Trade Evaluation -- Pile A versus B
    Quote from chongsen »
    Pile A:
    Jace, the Mind Sculptor (WW)
    $40

    Pile B:
    Mana Crypt (EMA) FOIL

    I'd probably pick Pile A here. Pile B is the third-best foil of Mana Crypt. It's nice, but it's not really that nice. Another printing of Mana Crypt will hurt it. Meanwhile, you've got $40 cash and JTMS which can be easily flipped for cash at an event. I like the cash option.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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