If the game is how we believe it to be, a 4-2 line in our favor, and we believe we can win while killing me, go ahead and do so. But with the idea that this is a specialty game, I would really hate to see Kenji waste his kill on me tonight.
I believe, I'm the only member left in this game without night actions. You're not going to learn anything by keeping me around for tomorrow. That is true.
It's incredibly unlikely that there is anything different in this game than 4 Shu, and 2 Wei. I just wouldn't put it beyond Fayul for there to be one trick left, and I would hate for us to have been hung out to try by it, which is why I think RafaelK should be the nightkill.
I'd place my vote on Azrael right now, but then obv. obv. obv. arminaes and I are scum together and are conspiring for a quick lynch.
I think we're all fairly in aggreance here that we should win the game. I just don't want you guys to complicate things for yourself, and make a mistake that'll cost you. If we're going to screw up and hit town, then I suppose it's for the best if I'm the one mistakenly killed.
If Az is the scum roleblocker, go right ahead and vig me tonight. We'll have enough players to lynch Raf tomorrow, and end the game.
But if Az is Cao Cao, and he is vigged, I strongly suggest you kill RafK, or else we're risking losing this game.
I'm still baffled by the "I'm a neutral even though they're all supposed to be dead claim". None the less, it appears Kenji's still in our camp, so I'm happy...
...unless arminaes is Mafia. Which I don't believe to be the case. If had to vote right now, I'd still be going with Azrael. Just because his existance today no longer insures that he's scum, doesn't mean that he hasn't had the most spotted background up to this point.
RafaelK brings up a couple of points. I still want to know why Azrael knew he had been rollblocked by AH, when neither I nor loran16 had been notified. This is one of the few events in the game that's directly involved me, and thus, it's one I'm still searching for answers from.
Kenji, it'd be nice to know what the anagram meant. I'd have to assume if you don't tell us, than it still is serving some sort of purpose, which is a bit scary from the Town point of view.
We've got two daykills sitting on the table, a retalitory killer claimed, and the possibility that the game hangs in the hands of Kenji. I have a feeling it's going to come down to whoever moves first.
EBWODP: Have read most of day 1 so far, up to the CPE debacle. Right now, the mafia is definitely looking like Az and Keeper.
This was keeper right after CPE made his blunder of claiming Wu without knowing about the safe claims, and SOS had gotten on and made some angry posts without nation-claiming:
Wants to appear like he's against CPE, while secretly hoping SOS will make a bigger spectacle out of himself.
At this time, matjoeman and I were under the impression that we were Wu, as there was initially an error in our roll PM's. Thus, I wasn't tempted at the moment to out someone on my own side.
Then, after SOS had posted again without bothering to nation-claim:
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[COLOR=Black]Seems like a concerted effort on both of their parts to shift the focus off of CPE. I doubt the mafia thought they were going to get a lynch on SOS just for being late in claiming, but it could have been a valuable distraction... especially since they could use the time to coach CPE, as the mafia have daytalk.
By this point, my roll has been switched, and I was just looking to get through the rest of the claims.
Finally, Keeper says this:
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First obliquely, then directly, suggesting that CPE is Wu rather than Wei, and that going after Wu is bad.
I did believe that going after Wu was bad at that time. Earlier that day, I was under the impression that I was Wu. I've my roll easy was changed to Shu, than did it not make sense for the two companys to be friendly? That is how matjoeman and I saw it at the time. In hindsight, this proved to be untrue.
Day 1 was very much a nightmare for matjoeman and I, as we debated what to do about everyone claiming Shu, then had our rolls changed, and had to reapproach the game.[/color]
[color=magenta]EBWODP: Excuse the hideous color tags that don't add up, quote feature is worthless.[/color]
I'm in the FOS Azreal camp as well, looking on finishing up my re-read this evening, but so far, nothing's jumped out at me that hasn't already been brought up.
Last night I was trying to figure out on what basis it was that fadeblue was cleared.
For reference, I am Sun Qian, a scholar who studies strategies with Jian Yong (matejoeman). We can recognize eachother on site, and are able to talk freely to eachother.
I believe, I'm the only member left in this game without night actions. You're not going to learn anything by keeping me around for tomorrow. That is true.
It's incredibly unlikely that there is anything different in this game than 4 Shu, and 2 Wei. I just wouldn't put it beyond Fayul for there to be one trick left, and I would hate for us to have been hung out to try by it, which is why I think RafaelK should be the nightkill.
I'd place my vote on Azrael right now, but then obv. obv. obv. arminaes and I are scum together and are conspiring for a quick lynch.
I think we're all fairly in aggreance here that we should win the game. I just don't want you guys to complicate things for yourself, and make a mistake that'll cost you. If we're going to screw up and hit town, then I suppose it's for the best if I'm the one mistakenly killed.
If Az is the scum roleblocker, go right ahead and vig me tonight. We'll have enough players to lynch Raf tomorrow, and end the game.
But if Az is Cao Cao, and he is vigged, I strongly suggest you kill RafK, or else we're risking losing this game.
I'm still baffled by the "I'm a neutral even though they're all supposed to be dead claim". None the less, it appears Kenji's still in our camp, so I'm happy...
...unless arminaes is Mafia. Which I don't believe to be the case. If had to vote right now, I'd still be going with Azrael. Just because his existance today no longer insures that he's scum, doesn't mean that he hasn't had the most spotted background up to this point.
RafaelK brings up a couple of points. I still want to know why Azrael knew he had been rollblocked by AH, when neither I nor loran16 had been notified. This is one of the few events in the game that's directly involved me, and thus, it's one I'm still searching for answers from.
Kenji, it'd be nice to know what the anagram meant. I'd have to assume if you don't tell us, than it still is serving some sort of purpose, which is a bit scary from the Town point of view.
We've got two daykills sitting on the table, a retalitory killer claimed, and the possibility that the game hangs in the hands of Kenji. I have a feeling it's going to come down to whoever moves first.
I'll be interested to see if Az is going to claim Wu.
Tried the anagram a handful of times, but haven't found anything better than Raf's. That being said, I'm awful at anagrams.
At this time, matjoeman and I were under the impression that we were Wu, as there was initially an error in our roll PM's. Thus, I wasn't tempted at the moment to out someone on my own side.
By this point, my roll has been switched, and I was just looking to get through the rest of the claims.
I did believe that going after Wu was bad at that time. Earlier that day, I was under the impression that I was Wu. I've my roll easy was changed to Shu, than did it not make sense for the two companys to be friendly? That is how matjoeman and I saw it at the time. In hindsight, this proved to be untrue.
Day 1 was very much a nightmare for matjoeman and I, as we debated what to do about everyone claiming Shu, then had our rolls changed, and had to reapproach the game.[/color]
[color=magenta]EBWODP: Excuse the hideous color tags that don't add up, quote feature is worthless.[/color]
For reference, I am Sun Qian, a scholar who studies strategies with Jian Yong (matejoeman). We can recognize eachother on site, and are able to talk freely to eachother.