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  • posted a message on M20-Flavor and Story
    Quote from Andethir »
    Well, concerning elementals, there is Chandra, Flamecaller and Chandra's Spitfire already...


    Wholly forgot the Flamecaller,thanks, bro Wink But we have not seen her summoning the elementals in story,IIRC.
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  • posted a message on "Brazen Thief" (WinCondition spoiler- Russian)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOclaZqviVk&feature=youtu.be

    "Brazen Thief" 2B

    Creature - Human Rogue

    Whenever Brazen Thief attacks, draw a card and lose 1 life.

    2/2
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  • posted a message on M20-Flavor and Story
    Quote from Leaf »
    Quote from user_938036 »
    Quote from 5colors »
    I don't usually think Core Sets have flavor. M19 did because it was just before Bolas's finale. And Origins did. But mostly Core Sets don't.


    Maro in regardes to coresets;
    https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/metamorphosis-2-0-2017-06-12

    The set will have some story relevance, but more in a "filling in information of the past about relevant characters" way than telling a piece of the "present-day" story.



    So, basically, more like retcon. Not necessarily bad, but you're more likely to notice when it's bad than when it's good. Sounds alright. Looks like we're getting Chandra, then, but who else?
    A retcon is when they change something that was previously established. Not when they tell us details about things we kind of knew but not very well. That is called storytelling.
    Chandra originally had no backstory and wore the iconic armor she always does.
    Later on revealed she hailed from an unknown and nameless plane that wasn't Regatha.
    Chandra's pyromancy abilities caused soldiers to burn down her village and family.
    Chandra fled to Regatha and studied with the monks at Keral Keep Monastery.
    She trained with Mother Luti at the monastery.
    Chandra's home plane was later revealed to be Indian Aetherpunk world of Kaladesh, she stuck out like a sore thumb since both parents are Indian.
    Also revealed later was that she was to be executed before escaping to Regatha.
    Also revealed later was that Chandra's mother is actually alive.
    Chandra and Gideon had a romantic relationship.
    Revealed later that Mother Luti was actually Jaya Ballard.
    Revealed later that Gideon instead saw Chandra as a sibling than a romantic partner.
    Now revealed she at some point in her life used a 'regulator' for her magic before becoming her adult self, but what happened to the regulator is unknown as it doesn't appear on her normal armor.
    Now revealed she is actually a very prodigious summoner of elementals in addition to her known pyromancy rather than just a pyromancer who only shoots gouts of flames, however these summoning talents are neglected prior to this in her lore.

    Chandra's backstory is several layers of Retroactive Continuity or "retconning" as its also known. Where they revised the backstory over and over and over. She gives the formerly amnesiac Jace a run for his money.


    The only TRUE retcon here is:

    - alleged arranged marriage that caused her to manifest her abilities and be the cause of burning her village and people in it, that was later explained as Chandra dealing with PTSD and making the story up for Gideon instead of telling the truth.

    Her relationship with Gideon was never truly explored deeper from either side, they basically slept together once on Diraden, when he provided her a support. Gideon definitely haven't seen her as a romantic partner ever, and if she had, well, that happens.

    All other things are not retcons, just additionally revealed facts.

    By the way, you are wrong about the regulator. It is mentioned in her origin story:

    Quote from Fire Logic »
    “You just have to be more careful. I have something for you, something that should help.” Her father handed her a small mechanism. It was a finely-etched metal box with vents on one side. It had a shoulder strap and a flexible cable that led into it.

    Chandra turned it over in her hands. “What is it?”

    “It’s called a vent pack. It’s based on an old invention from long ago. Your mother and I made this for you.”


    The elemental summoning, well, that is one so-far unexplored side of Chandra. But the fact we have never seen her doing it does not mean it was not there all the time. Also not a retcon, but an addition. We might as well learn that she caused some damage with elemental summoning along her life and that made her restrain from it.
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  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion


    I am highly critical of this book, which was not good. I can't speak on Weisman's given time frame to complete this, but he accepted the job and as a professional, I expected better than this without having to hear excuses.


    Whatever. I'm not gonna repeat myself again.


    I wasn't aware about that with Jenna Helland and Godsend. Where did you learn that? I really wish they hadn't done that to Godsend and let her write it as she intended. Still, it was good.

    ¨
    Sometimes after the book was released, maybe in some podcast, interview, or on Twitter discussion. I am not able to find the original source anymore, sorry :-(
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  • posted a message on "Resonating Summons" - HobbyJapan preview


    3GG

    Instant (R)
    Search your library for up to two creature cards with different names, reveal them, and put them into your hand. Then shuffle your library.
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  • posted a message on Cavalier of Thorns (Giga.de spoiler)



    2GGG

    Reach
    When ~ ETBs, reveal the top 5 cards of your library, you may put a land card from among them into play. Put the rest into your graveyard.
    When ~ dies, you may exile it. If you do, put another card from your graveyard on top of your library.

    5/6
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  • posted a message on Icon of Ancestrality (gameplayrj
    Quote from Creedmoor »
    Is that a stained glass art of Scyther?


    LOL, came to post the very same thing. Also, there seems to be a mutated Charmander in lower left corner... Smile
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  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from RedGauntlet »
    COme now, Avengeer os not master piece of writting, but atleast itas entertaining and cooherant. Actually gives each of the ehroes their spotlight and jsutice. can't say the same for WAR.


    I do not want to badmouth Avengers Smile But it is about the general mood, number of characters, depth of characters vs. the superhero flick where everyone shall shine for a while. Those are completely different premises each of the pieces comes from and has to build on. And yes, Avengers did that far better than War.

    It is not a masterpiece, but it does not deserve Jenrik's Turd -flinging either.
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  • posted a message on Agent of Treachery (Commanderin' podcast)
    From https://www.patreon.com/posts/e172-mtgm20-core-27765826

    Agent of Treachery 5UU

    Creature - Human Rogue (R)

    When Agent of Treachery enters the battlefield, gain control of target permanent.

    At the beginning of your end step, if you control three or more permanents you don't own, draw three cards.

    "The more secrets you have, the more easily you become my pawn."


    2/3
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  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    The overall plot of WAR was fine. Greg Wiesman's novel however, was genuinely deprived. I couldn't believe how many cardinal sins of literature that book took the liberty of making. Telling, now showing. Juvenile vocabulary. Toilet humor. Run-on sentences that included name-dropping characters over properly writing them in. I was surprised Kiora was neglected, given her nature of opposing gods. Relying on capital letters over descriptive language to emphasize distress or gravitas. Internal monologues in capitals. Lack of focus, improper attention to senseless details while neglecting crucial story moments or relegating them to one-liner scene drops. Flat characters, limited momentum. The book spends its time getting a group of characters from point A to point B, Ravnica to the citadel across a plaza essentially. Just very poorly written by, I resent saying this, an author that I feel was most certainly beyond their own capabilities.


    Whaa whaa whaa, they neglected my favorite blue planeswalker....

    And about 25 others, pal. Kasmina was not featured in the book at all, added just to Rat's story on the webpage. Ashiok not even that. Tibalt mentioned once. Tamiyo and Narset maybe three times, with no speaking part...shall I continue?

    And the last sentence about Weisman is laughable. Check his record (what he has written) and then consider that he was given not enough time to write this novel and too much hares to chase. It is so cute to see self-entitled random nobod- posters criticize established authors.

    I frankly hope that the sequel (Forsaken) would be better, because there would not be so many characters and things to solve.


    "Bolas OBLITERATED Oketra"

    I honestly laughed when I read this. It's like an 8 year old's idea of writing a passage.


    Taken out of context, it indeed seems laughable. When in the chapter, that intentionally used the capitals to emphasize Bolas's godhood and situation he was in, it fits.




    Man, a far cry from Scott McGough's Kamigawa trilogy, and Godsend by Jenna Helland. Those are my favorite.


    Well, Kamigawa (and Ravnica) were completely different kind of telling a story, a fact we have to accept. Godsend came close to the feeling of old novels, though there were also worse parts (also stemming from the fact that Jenna was forced to shorten the planned extent of the novel). But the thing is that these old books cannot be compared to War of the Spark, it is like you compared the Godfather trilogy to Avengers.
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  • posted a message on Enemy Temples are back
    Interesting take. These are quite darker than their previous forms.

    Temple of Mystery is reminiscent of the original (not the Clash Pack) version - but it looks like the "hands" are all that remained from the two huge trees.
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  • posted a message on Kykar, Wind's Fury (Command Zone)
    Quote from SimicNuggets »
    So.... is this a Tarkirian rebel/defector from the Ojutai clan who has taken up the old Jeskai way? Wink


    Tarkir aven have only four limbs. Legs and wings. This one has hands. So it is not from Tarkir.
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  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from 5colors »
    Quote from Caranthir »
    Quote from 5colors »
    Chapter 2 of the prequel was mailed out. Features our soon to be guild master assassin walkers.

    "Part 1"
    -We get to see Vraska take over the Golgari.

    -Most of the high ranking Devkarin elves and Jarad had the Erstwhile as servants who where secretly working for Vraska which is how she took over the guild.

    -We meet the Krul mindmage Xeddick, who later goes on to restore Vraskas memories. Xeddick is used to drain Jareds mind of all the guild info and secrets for Vraska.

    -Overall I'm disappointed that Jared shift in character at the end of this from the original Ravnica. I could see him favoring the Devkarin and losing some of his old self as a lich but I wish that had been expanded on.

    "Part 2"
    -More details on what Kaya was meant to do. Bolas hired Kaya to recuse Teysa and then aid Teysa in killing the Obzedat.

    -Teysa herself has been in contact with Bolas.

    -Kaya makes contact with Teysa. Teysa decided to stay in her cell to pretend like she knew nothing of Kaya while sending Tomik to make a plan.

    -Kaya mentions something called "The Broken Sky" that need to be fix and might be what Bolas might have done to her world.


    The Jarad part is absolutely and totally f***ed up. He is absolutely NOTHING like his old character.

    He sounds like a whiny despot, and one moment, he friggin' BLEEDS. A LICH.

    Django really messed this part up. Not mention that at the end of Ixalan, Bolas told Vraska that Jarad is imprisoned for her in a particular place.


    I wouldn't blame Django as much, I'm more upset at lining things up and Jared character which are things creative has better control on.



    A friend of mine asked Django himself, and he said he got some outlines about the characters, but, for example, there was never mentioned that he is undead. Like the card Jarad, Golgari LICH Lord with the types ZOMBIE Elf never existed.

    This is a big blunder of Creative or whoever gave him bad instructions and info...
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  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from 5colors »
    Chapter 2 of the prequel was mailed out. Features our soon to be guild master assassin walkers.

    "Part 1"
    -We get to see Vraska take over the Golgari.

    -Most of the high ranking Devkarin elves and Jarad had the Erstwhile as servants who where secretly working for Vraska which is how she took over the guild.

    -We meet the Krul mindmage Xeddick, who later goes on to restore Vraskas memories. Xeddick is used to drain Jareds mind of all the guild info and secrets for Vraska.

    -Overall I'm disappointed that Jared shift in character at the end of this from the original Ravnica. I could see him favoring the Devkarin and losing some of his old self as a lich but I wish that had been expanded on.

    "Part 2"
    -More details on what Kaya was meant to do. Bolas hired Kaya to recuse Teysa and then aid Teysa in killing the Obzedat.

    -Teysa herself has been in contact with Bolas.

    -Kaya makes contact with Teysa. Teysa decided to stay in her cell to pretend like she knew nothing of Kaya while sending Tomik to make a plan.

    -Kaya mentions something called "The Broken Sky" that need to be fix and might be what Bolas might have done to her world.


    The Jarad part is absolutely and totally f***ed up. He is absolutely NOTHING like his old character.

    He sounds like a whiny despot, and one moment, he friggin' BLEEDS. A LICH.

    Django really messed this part up. Not mention that at the end of Ixalan, Bolas told Vraska that Jarad is imprisoned for her in a particular place.
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  • posted a message on Chain Veil destroyed
    And I made the thread the very day the pic was shown by Daarken, on 18th April... https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-storyline/808784-the-chain-veil-destroyed

    And there is not a single word about that in the book.
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