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  • posted a message on NEO- Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty
    Well, after the last story (Shattered States) I simply accept that they are retconning things left and right.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on [NEO] Saga art of the day 6 — The Shattered States Era (very important story)
    Okay, **** it, they are simply retconning left end right.

    While I admire these artworks and stories, I truly hope there isn't a retcon of Michiko's clearly defined and established divine status...


    LOL, what else do you think it is? :-))))))
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on NEO- Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty
    I am having serious doubts about the authors of those short sagas having done their homework properly...

    I wonder how many inconsistencies would they serve us in the rest of the stories.
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  • posted a message on NEO- Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty
    Quote from PharesZoran »
    Quote from Caranthir »
    Of course it is a reference to Michiko and Kyodai, FFS. One has aspects of snake (Kyodai), the other is regal (Michiko). It calls back to the end of Guardian, where they were described (post-ascension) in the very same way. Who else would it be?


    I think you're right that it's WotC retconning, but given the ambiguity in the novel it could easily be what 5colors suggested above and that the Sister of Flesh role isn't static, but passed down with the role of emperor. So it would still be the Sisters of Flesh and Stone, just not Michiko. It may not be a hard retcon, because there is nothing from past lore being explicitly contradicted or changed, but I'd still consider it to be a bit of a retcon because I highly doubt that's what was intended when the novel was written.


    Yeah, the novel pretty much hints that they merged and became something new, namely the new embodiment of the barrier. Michiko ascennded to spirit form clearly, they fought O-Kagachi together and Michiko performed feats that she did not have as a mortal.

    Yeah, it would be more of the lines "...whoops, we did not mention that Michiko actually had not become an immortal spirit, or more precisely, we did not explicitly say she did, oh, how sorry we are about you for thinking that...."

    Still it sucks.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on [NEO] Saga art of the day 3 — Michiko's Reign of Truth (story actually tells something we didn't know before about kamigawa)
    I really appreciate the creativity they can go with for Saga art. Using a fan is a really inspired take on the art restrictions.
    Quote from Lectrys »
    Quote from Caranthir »
    Quote from Lectrys »
    Is it just me, or is Wizards retconning the Sisters of Flesh and Spirit?


    Either that, or pulling our leg to prepare for a big revelation that Michiko is the Wanderer.

    That's a distinct possibility I'm still considering - that Michiko ascended as a member of the Sisters of Flesh and Spirit instead of actually dying and the Saga writer and their sources never picked up on that.
    I think the title is hereditary, with "Sister of Flesh" just being one of the many titles of Kamigawa's emperor (referring to the patronage and partnership with Kyodai herself).


    Eh, please make your proper research before making such comments.

    Read Guardian, the only thing we had on this. They were described to join/fuse with Kyodai, intermingle, and then BOTH became recreated as very special spirits, that were able to destroy the manifested O-Kagachi, and then become the new embodiment of the barrier between the worlds.

    It is not like they remained a mortal and a kami. There is virtually nothing that supports your theory Wink

    I can accept that the sagas (and the articles) are meant to be inaccurate descriptions of what happened on Kamigawa, or precisely, what the denizens THINK that happened.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on NEO- Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty
    Quote from Lectrys »
    Quote from Caranthir »
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Next short story
    https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/michikos-reign-truth-2022-01-13

    The short story on how michiko ended the war

    It something is really really important

    michiko……is dead

    She was not immortal when bonded with kyodai.

    and on top of that she didn't want to be emperor and we already suspected the wanderer is…

    it might also mean the wanderer and and michiko are not the same person

    That’s why kyodai was alone on the leaked card the other half is dead.


    The article is a pile of utter crap. Contradicting what we knew about her. Or a very brazen retcon.

    For Christ's sake... she was SEEN with Kyodai during the fight of Bolas and Leshrac in Future Sight, barring the way to the world.

    Not so long ago, about 1000 years after the Kami War.

    EDIT: Future Sight, page 242/243


    That section is actually a lot more ambiguous about who is with Kyodai (or technically whether Kyodai is even among them):

    Two fierce women appeared between him and the realm, armed with spears and long, powerful bows. They were almost twins, identical in nearly all ways beneath their resplendent armor. The one to his left had the aspect of a serpent, sharp and quick and deadly, while the other bore herself with the solemn dignity of a queen.

    They crossed their spears between them and spoke in unison. "We are the guardians of this place. You are not welcome here. Begone."

    Note the paragraphs not naming either woman at all, just letting them outline their occupations.

    I recall the MTG Wiki being pretty definitive that Michiko became part spirit as a member of the Sisters of Flesh and Spirit - what are that article's other sources?


    The image of Kyodai on the leaked card sure as heck looks like a dragon spirit and not a human, implying that Kyodai can shapeshift. ...Maybe, just maybe, Kyodai prefers shifting into the form of the current emperor?


    Of course it is a reference to Michiko and Kyodai, FFS. One has aspects of snake (Kyodai), the other is regal (Michiko). It calls back to the end of Guardian, where they were described (post-ascension) in the very same way. Who else would it be?
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on [NEO] Saga art of the day 3 — Michiko's Reign of Truth (story actually tells something we didn't know before about kamigawa)
    Quote from Lectrys »
    Is it just me, or is Wizards retconning the Sisters of Flesh and Spirit?


    Either that, or pulling our leg to prepare for a big revelation that Michiko is the Wanderer.

    For the record... the Sisters were seen some decades ago during the temporal crisis. Leshrac encountered them when planehopping and fighting Bolas.

    And that was 1000 years after the Kami War, beyond the lifetime of a human.

    I call BS.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on NEO- Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Next short story
    https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/michikos-reign-truth-2022-01-13

    The short story on how michiko ended the war

    It something is really really important

    michiko……is dead

    She was not immortal when bonded with kyodai.

    and on top of that she didn't want to be emperor and we already suspected the wanderer is…

    it might also mean the wanderer and and michiko are not the same person

    That’s why kyodai was alone on the leaked card the other half is dead.


    The article is a pile of utter crap. Contradicting what we knew about her. Or a very brazen retcon.

    For Christ's sake... she was SEEN with Kyodai during the fight of Bolas and Leshrac in Future Sight, barring the way to the world.

    Not so long ago, about 1000 years after the Kami War.

    EDIT: Future Sight, page 242/243

    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Three 2 cmc cards leaked for kamigawa neon dynasty (light paws, a vehicle, and a kami/spirit)
    Quote from Dontrike »
    I don't understand how the Soulripper is a vehicle. No matter how I look at it I just can't see a "vehicle."


    It is an exoskeleton in the bizarre likeness of a kami. Just a very fancy version of the thing that Ripley drove at the end of Aliens.

    Vehicle enough for me.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on NEO- Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty
    Quote from Drangsal83 »
    I‘ve always thought that CoK era Kamigawa takes place in present time of the Multiverse. But now it‘s seems that Neon Dynasty is doing this instead.
    But: why does Tamiyo looks like she is from the CoK era?


    Is this a plothole or is this retcon?


    Original Kamigawa block happens around 3206 AR, in the time between Urza's ascension and Tolarian Academy founding, closer to the latter. I.e. about 1300 years in the past from now.
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  • posted a message on NEO- Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty
    Quote from OathboundOne »
    Quote from Caranthir »
    So, after reading Kaito's story, and presuming that the emperor and the Wanderer are the same person, and with the hints dropping about the Emperor having a special bond with Kyodai and Kamigawa itself, we can almost safely assume who the Emperor/Wanderer is.


    Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker

    More precisely, what became of her.
    That's 100% my takeaway from this story. That Tezzeret's meddling on the plane has somehow ?separated? Michiko and Kyodai from each other and triggered Michiko's uncontrollable planeswalking...? Was it deliberate? To what end? To weaken the planes' defenses? So many questions.


    Note that the spark-granting kami was present during the incident between the Emperor and Metal Arm Man ;). Due to Michiko's nature, the attempt to grant her a spark (like it did to Kaito) might result in the specific Wanderer features.
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  • posted a message on NEO- Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty
    So, after reading Kaito's story, and presuming that the emperor and the Wanderer are the same person, and with the hints dropping about the Emperor having a special bond with Kyodai and Kamigawa itself, we can almost safely assume who the Emperor/Wanderer is.


    Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker

    More precisely, what became of her.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on NEO- Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty
    Unconfirmed leak - Kyodai as a Dragon Spirit.



    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Review: Children of the Nameless
    Quote from 5colors »
    Its very nice to see Dav being given a focus when they can give it to him.


    Indeed, Better than nothing, and his digital-only card just flavorfully works in the way paper one cannot,

    But I'd very much like to have a paper Miss Highwater card Wink
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Magic: The Gathering Comic Book from Boom!
    Quote from Quannage »
    The storyline for this new comic actually isn't bad. The Planeswalker leaders on Ravnica have to put aside their differences and deal with a threat to the Guildpact. they find out via Jaya and Teferi that Marit Lage has something to do with it.
    They ran a nice backstory of what Happened to Lage at the end of the Ice Age. ties up a couple of loose ends in the lore and asks why we never heard of Lage after the Thaw.
    Oh and Tezz is up to something in the book too.
    I'm curious where we can learn more about these details concerning Marit Lage? Also, is this canon?

    I am very interested in Marit Lage. Among my favorite characters.


    Since Niv-Mizzet is a mizzium metal dragon there, no, it is not canon.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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