For anyone interested Jeremy's going to be on a livecast tomorrow called tommyc'ssftp on youtube 3pm est. The show takes callers so I'm hoping it will be interesting.
I think he's his own worst enemy personally. I'm pretty good at seeing both sides of the story no matter if I agree with them or not, but Jeremy approaches things to try to get a reaction. It's less about his message and more about his approach.
The fact that this is a mythic and in the same set as Thunderbreak Regent is pretty underwhelming. The effort you would have to put into making this card work isn't worth getting a creature that can't block and dies to pretty much everything. I guess they all can't be winners though. I have a feeling this wont be replacing Polukranos or Siege Rhino anytime soon.
comparable to nantuko shade. which is to say, i'm not that excited.
I was thinking the same thing, except for the unexcited part. Shade was always pretty good. I don't know that this will have as much impact as shade did, but it still seems like a nice creature.
Kind of meh. I wish it had some sort of mediocre enters the battlefield trigger that would have made it at somewhat playable. Neat flavor, but it really doesn't feel good enough to be a rare.
Yes, I agree that it is impossible that more people disagreed with you than agreed with you.
Anyways... I wonder sometimes if people even have the gray matter to comprehend what "collectible" means, let alone when its followed by the words "card," and "game." Yeah, its supposed to be a fun game that people can play, but its a hobby for collectors and at the end of the day the collectors, the ones with money to burn, will dictate wizards policies far more than pre-release attendance ever has a chance to.
Dramatization:
"Waaaaaaaah! Why can't everyone have a copy of every card in a collectible card game with over 11,000 cards, it's not fair!
It's not about shedding tears over not having access to every card ever printed. The problem for me is incentive. If I'm going to enter a tournament that will cost me $25 to enter and all I'm guaranteed is some packs and a card that will have a value $1-3 dollars then wheres my incentive to play? If you throw a card out there like [wurmcoil engine /CARD] or Hero of Bladehold that has a value of $8-10 with the potential to be worth more, it give me a reason to want to play.
The whole idea of printing a promo is to give the players an added incentive to play. If the promo doesn't do that then what's the point of giving one out to begin with?
It's ok wizards, keep taking from the community. I don't need to play in prereleases anyways. This is also the last time i fill out a survey since they always seem to do the opposite of how i answer my questions. Glad to know my feedback is appreciated.
Oh look, the mind sculptor gets a lobotomy. In most normal games of magic, traumatize will mill more cards than this pile.
If this is the best you can do for blue mages, just stop printing blue cards. First we loose JTMS, then divination is the chosen card drawing spell over jace's ingenuity or foresee, and now this casual players planeswalker tops the cake.
The only good thing i could say about this is that in the mirror hopefully your opponent's activate their 0 and mill your jace's away in the process(saving you from having to draw them).
NO!
Jace is and was broken as a card. It doesn't matter that it didn't win games 'directly'. It's a broken card which, if unanswered the very next turn it's dropped, WILL WIN THE GAME 9 games out of 10.
It's plan B for caw-blade. Deck doesn't "rely" on it, sure. It's just there as a completely random overpowered card which doesn't even have any synergy with the rest the decks it's being played in.
I want you to look through last 5 pro tours/GPs and give me a top8 which didn't have 75% Jaces. Be it RUG, U/B control, U/W control or its latest iteration in the form of Caw-blade, Jace is ALWAYS there and it wins just as many games as the rest of the deck because it's THAT overpowered and ridiculous for its cost.
I really wish people stopped hating decks and realized that bans can be done on OVERPOWERED CARDS as well.
I know MTG is a TCG and as such people are used to overpowered cards, but Jace is the epitome of "Wtf were you thinking when you designed this card".
Honestly, it AMAZES me that there are people who still argue that Jace isn't retardedly broken. Again, I guess that's the problem with TCG players, they suck at understanding balance
Wow you mad bro? I differ in my opinion but you don't have to go all bold print on me. Jace2.0 wasn't even a problem back when jund ruled the world. It was good, but it barely shook the format. The reason jace is so good is because the rest of the format isn't balanced. Valukuut the card and the deck are a bigger problem because they can't be countered. Same with skull clamp which came down before control decks could deal with them. Jace is one of the strongest cards printed in years. But if a card doesn't disrupt the format then why ban it. There were months even after jund left that primeval titans ruled the world rather than jace. You're throwing out logic and instead saying you think the card is good so it should be banned.
Congrats, obviously some others agree with you, but I made a point instead of just saying "jace is too good". I played during the skullclamp era. This is nowhere near as ridiculous of a format as that was.
Valakut still has to deal with Twin which trashes it like no one's business. Valakut took the backseat to that deck much more than it did to Caw Blade.
Valakut is not an unstoppable deck by any means, I simply said that it renders other decks unplayable. Even when cawblade was king, it was still around enough in the metagame to keep Fauna Shaman decks in check. That will be even more so now that the witch is dead.
I'm a little late to the discussion, but the threads still alive so I'll give my two cents. Standard was in a horrible place seemly beyond repair. That being said, Jace, the Mind Sculptor did not warp the medigame, Stoneforge Mystic did.
I remember skullclampand how it ruined the format. Control was completely unviable at that point in time. Right now there are plenty of archetypes that were rendered unviable because of cawblade, but none of these were unplayable due to JTMS's existence in the format.
If anything Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle should have been up for debate because it hoses aggressive strategies that allowed for cawblades dominance. Banning Jace didn't solve that problem, it only eliminated the whining of people who didn't like jace in the first place who were looking for a reason to ban it.
This format looks ugly. If you extend the format clear back to invasion it actually opens up more alternatives because you have cards such as cabal therapy to keep hypergenesis in check and pernicious deed to keep zoo in check. When you extend the format back to mirrodin, you get the same stale format that led to them shifting the extended cycle earlier than planned.
I'm glad they want to try new things, but this isn't the answer. There was no point in running control because zoo was too fast. There was no point in running midrange because Tarmogoyf was too good. Hopefully this more of a test run rather than where they actually plan to take extended in the future. Extended was good when it had good cards that could go in multiple decks.
Of course Wizards are being immature. Villain worship is immature by default.
I'm on the side of those who are disappointed that we aren't going to get a Mirrodin Pure, but there's nothing wrong with cheering for the bad guys every now & again. If wizards had brought back the Cabal I would be extremely excited.
The Phyrexia's don't get me excited because I hated the mechanics & because none of their characters interest me. But that doesn't mean I'm going to hate on those who do empathize with the phyrexians.
It's weird for me to think about how much a damage matters. Ajani Vengent was incredibly powerful, yet Sorin Markov just never seemed to get out of the gate. Then again, whatever Ajani couldn't kill, he could lock down. Then again, Sorin other 2 abilities mostly weaker than Ajani's.
On the other hand, Gideon Jura being in m12 is huge. Just when you thought the red zone was safe"your creatures will attack gideon" for at least another year to come.
I think he's his own worst enemy personally. I'm pretty good at seeing both sides of the story no matter if I agree with them or not, but Jeremy approaches things to try to get a reaction. It's less about his message and more about his approach.
Aven Mindcensor
Flagstones of Trokair
Mirri's Guile
Argothian Enchantress
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I was thinking the same thing, except for the unexcited part. Shade was always pretty good. I don't know that this will have as much impact as shade did, but it still seems like a nice creature.
It's not about shedding tears over not having access to every card ever printed. The problem for me is incentive. If I'm going to enter a tournament that will cost me $25 to enter and all I'm guaranteed is some packs and a card that will have a value $1-3 dollars then wheres my incentive to play? If you throw a card out there like [wurmcoil engine /CARD] or Hero of Bladehold that has a value of $8-10 with the potential to be worth more, it give me a reason to want to play.
The whole idea of printing a promo is to give the players an added incentive to play. If the promo doesn't do that then what's the point of giving one out to begin with?
If this is the best you can do for blue mages, just stop printing blue cards. First we loose JTMS, then divination is the chosen card drawing spell over jace's ingenuity or foresee, and now this casual players planeswalker tops the cake.
The only good thing i could say about this is that in the mirror hopefully your opponent's activate their 0 and mill your jace's away in the process(saving you from having to draw them).
Wow you mad bro? I differ in my opinion but you don't have to go all bold print on me. Jace2.0 wasn't even a problem back when jund ruled the world. It was good, but it barely shook the format. The reason jace is so good is because the rest of the format isn't balanced. Valukuut the card and the deck are a bigger problem because they can't be countered. Same with skull clamp which came down before control decks could deal with them. Jace is one of the strongest cards printed in years. But if a card doesn't disrupt the format then why ban it. There were months even after jund left that primeval titans ruled the world rather than jace. You're throwing out logic and instead saying you think the card is good so it should be banned.
Congrats, obviously some others agree with you, but I made a point instead of just saying "jace is too good". I played during the skullclamp era. This is nowhere near as ridiculous of a format as that was.
mana leak, gideon,vampire hexmage, spell pierce, hex parasite, little jace, phyrexian revoker,koth,thrun, the last troll and the list goes on.
I'm sure you could name a few hosers for valakuut, but there aren't nearly as many.
Valakut is not an unstoppable deck by any means, I simply said that it renders other decks unplayable. Even when cawblade was king, it was still around enough in the metagame to keep Fauna Shaman decks in check. That will be even more so now that the witch is dead.
I remember skullclampand how it ruined the format. Control was completely unviable at that point in time. Right now there are plenty of archetypes that were rendered unviable because of cawblade, but none of these were unplayable due to JTMS's existence in the format.
If anything Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle should have been up for debate because it hoses aggressive strategies that allowed for cawblades dominance. Banning Jace didn't solve that problem, it only eliminated the whining of people who didn't like jace in the first place who were looking for a reason to ban it.
I'm glad they want to try new things, but this isn't the answer. There was no point in running control because zoo was too fast. There was no point in running midrange because Tarmogoyf was too good. Hopefully this more of a test run rather than where they actually plan to take extended in the future. Extended was good when it had good cards that could go in multiple decks.
Anyone else think it's weird that they banned Umezawa's Jitte but not Æther Vial?
I'm on the side of those who are disappointed that we aren't going to get a Mirrodin Pure, but there's nothing wrong with cheering for the bad guys every now & again. If wizards had brought back the Cabal I would be extremely excited.
The Phyrexia's don't get me excited because I hated the mechanics & because none of their characters interest me. But that doesn't mean I'm going to hate on those who do empathize with the phyrexians.
On the other hand, Gideon Jura being in m12 is huge. Just when you thought the red zone was safe"your creatures will attack gideon" for at least another year to come.