MTG Salvation

You asked what games and what alignments. I can't give you that. I can tell you that he's been town with me. Your disconnect seems to be with the idea of general information. I don't remember specifics.

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So, why exactly ARE you voting for me?

Indiscriminate opportunism.

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I'm interested in this bit of your post. Because WoD's answer looks like a defense/explanation to me. Therefore: Why is it not?

You must be confused. Saying something feels like legitimization is an attempt to discredits the poster by way of motivation. It's not a defense and not an explanation. You may be referring to WoD's short references to his other post, a schizophrenic theory tying three people together as scum, and the accompanying excuses. That may be generously referred to as an explanation, but its certainly not a good one or a defense.

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Also in the second paragraph he disregards WoD's entire defence by just saying it didn't do anything.

See above. There was no defense.

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The next problem is that you said that you didn't remember what alignment WoD was when you were in games with him. Yet now you're saying that you know this definitely not his town play.

Don't twist this. Abnormal behavior, especially when it doesn't positively affect the town, is a good indicator. I don't do research. If you need details, they are out there for your perusal. I've played with WoD. As town. This isn't normal.

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Waiting for him to reply to my 244.

You were serious? I've told you I played with WoD before. I can't guarantee you I've played in a game with WoD as scum, or even that he's been scum, but I can guarantee you this is not normal when he's not. So no, this isn't blind. If you want a list, do your own research.

WoD's previous post is not a defense, or an explanation, or anything that comes close to convincing me to remove my vote.

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AH, Have you played with WoD before? How often and what was he?

kpaca, I've been reading WoD's scum games and so far I'm not convinced but I still have to read his town games.

On occasion, don't remember, don't remember. Convenient way to avoid commenting though.

You are absolutely right. Vote: Wrath of Dog. Check his lists. They consist of everyone anyone's willing to lynch.

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Abandon Hope is lurking hardcore, Charm Master too and Netfinity...

I saw this come up repeatedly. Rest assured I am paying attention. I have no particular insight at this time, nor do I find interrupting semantic arguments productive. Somethings did seem relevant: Charm master's behavior, Toastboy's wagon, Wrath's scumlist.

Was Toastboy's wagon valid?

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There's still an unanswered question: What is your opinion on Kraj's vote?

Careless and vindictive. Both seem more town to me.

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To clear things up:



AH read this as" "It's not scummy to vote TB but it is suspicious behaviour" ('really' being a qualifier of 'not').

Chris wrote it as: "It's not very scummy to vote TB but it is a little scummy." ('really' being a qualifier of 'scummy').

Got it. I'm done now.

I'm a simple man. You're going to have to explain to me how asking for explanation to the phrase : (i'm paraphrasing here) "it's not scummy, but it's suspicious" is scummy.

No. What are suspicious of, if not of your subject being scum?

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It's just something I noticed. As soon as a player under pressure isn't available for a few days it's extremely convenient to just say "I'm unhappy with the given responses. Lynchplskthx." and the lynch happens. I think that everyone should have a chance to answer to the points raised against him. It's not really scummy to vote when TB is away, it simply adds to what I think is suspicious behavior.

Of what exactly are you suspicious?

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Toastboy hasn't made himself blatant but I'm not sure if getting the wagon rolling this quickly is good.

Wrong, he made his lack of forethought very blatant. His content was terrible. He wanted to contribute, and wasn't capable. But everybody needs to be townie. He might be trying to fit in, to avoid being mislynched. So that's a reason not to vote him, or at least a possible scenario. But if it wasn't a good enough reason, than any speed of wagon would be fine. So is the wagon valid or not?

I suppose you were the sort who looked for the hidden message in your ABC book?

I'm looking at it, and I think I could get the Azrael points. But then I wonder if I see those answers because he asked the question.

I have nothing interesting to say, but I too have noticed that it's not really the pregame anymore.