AoK: To address your first paragraph, I felt I had already answered this but I will go ahead and do this again: I killed H'Roth for two reasons. The first is there was a missing kill when I blocked him. To see him be able to daykill may be a scum ability. More importantly, by killing him, I made it so that we can win, today. To get rid of one more unconfirmed would lead to victory, or at least I thought I could convince you all today. Also note that H'Roth killing Cubus does not prove him to be townie, we made H'Roth do it. No doing it would get him killed, so had to. He had no choice in the matter.
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Seeing as that the issues have been screwed by my own failed action, three out of four people are claiming to have similar text in their vanilla role Pms. The only one who demurs is SG. He is claiming townie roleblocker...with piss-poor aim, apparently, which is surprising for such an experienced player. There is no way for us to prove this, as far as I know. I do tend to agree that his actions have been scummy, and since my plan failed so spectacularly...
Yes, I would demur, seeing as I am not a vanilla. Also note that I wouldn't say my aim has been bad, note that loran was playing the role earlier, not me. Plus, with so many vanillas it is expected that I wouldn't hit all that often. Really, overall, I feel that my play has not been bad.
Loran told you to vote me? Why is Loran coaching you? And that's the best you have to say in response to a lengthy list of accusations? At least call in some kind of effort or something. You couldn't be bothered to defend or explain yourself, but could vote me. Just more scummy behavior from you.
Who is making emotional appeals now, Cyan? Did you even read my post? It was four o'clock in the morning and was a tad tired. I wasn't really up to posting anything. But here is the chatlog I received from loran last night:
[17:55] *** "Josh" signed on at Thu Jun 28 17:55:33 2007.
[18:21] Josh: how was the lcq?
[18:21] *** Auto-response sent to Josh: I am currently away from the computer.
[19:11] Josh: vote cyan when you get back immediately for tiebreakre purposes
[19:11] *** Auto-response sent to Josh: I am currently away from the computer.
[21:24] Josh: howd it go?
[04:10] *** You have been disconnected. Fri Jun 29 04:10:15 2007.
And to say loran is coaching me is ridiculous. This is a clan contest, where we play with our clan. We help each other and we consider the proper play together. So please cut that out, okay Cyan?
But Archy has just sealed your fate anyway. That's three vanilla town that have stated they received essentially the same role PM. There is no way that HKKID bluffed in this. This virtually confirms HKKID(me) as Vanilla Town, and SG as scum.
This is equally ridiculous. HKKID claimed vanilla first, yes. But he claimed nothing about what was in his PM until after AoK had. He would know that AoK was confirmed and knew that claiming that couldn't be bad. How does knowing this at all confirm you?
Archy stated that he received no message regarding being roleblocked. Most of the time anymore, even Vanilla roles will receive flavor letting them know that they have been blocked.
I don't remember so I will ask: AoK, when investigated, did you did a PM? Did any of you get protected? If so, did you get a PM then?
It's also worth pointing out that it was essentially never possible for HRothGar to be scum. With the way this game works, all he would have had to do was stall his ability until it only took 1 vote to lynch, Vig a townie in one post, lynch a townie in the next, game goes to night, he and cubus NK some townie and win. SG killed HRothGar because he knew that a single vote by anyone(and one was definetely coming, most likely from HKKID) would end the game and he(and the scum) would lose.
This doesn't work because we wouldn't have let him do this? There was far too much pressure on him for that to happen.
You can almost feel that scummy insincerity coming from his posts. Especially posts like 731, where he praises HKKID at the same time he is trying to condemn him. It makes no sense for someone that is town to praise the efforts of someone that is scum. All that it does is muddle the issue. It makes lots of sense for someone that is scum to praise the person he is attacking, because it softens the attack. Especially when it's someone like SG that is completely on the ropes. SG also lynched H'Roth-Gar in the *same post* where he 'comes clean' about his real role. Please note that HKKID was apparently opposed to this lynch, judging by his next post. SG is scum with absolute certainty.
For me to praise someone's play is scummy? That just seems coldhearted, Cyan, and I have never seen anyone make that argument before, let alone make it successfully. And as scum, why do I want to soften my argument on HKKID? At this point, it is most definitely you or me. So why would I want to make you sound better? I praised HKKID because, if you have read the whole thread, I have been praising him as the best townie all game long. I still think he has played an amazing game and I am a little embarrassed I was so sure of his townieness. Also, what does HKKID opposing H'Roth's lynch have to do with anything?
Reading the post that contains SG's 'case' against HKKID, there is no case at all. SG claims that Wamyc 'supported' him(SG) in his last post, but this is not really true. Wamyc was notably suspicious of SG, but used a hugely WIFOM argument against *himself* and notes also 'we'll rip you apart if there is a tomorrow'. Which there clearly is. If Wamyc were alive now, it is fairly obvious that he would be voting SG. Which is why SG killed him.
That is not what that post is saying, at all. Yes, he said that at the beginning of the post. But it was a stream of conscious post and by the end of it, he was supporting me. He even says he should unvote me unless he is missing something. I don't see any evidence at all that he would be voting for me. And that is why you killing him, because you knew he would be one of the townies supporting me, and not you.
Also, SG's excuse as to why his vanilla claim doesn't match up with what Loran said is pretty much the worst fabrication I've ever seen.
How? Why does it seem like a fabrication to you? Everyone in the game at the time, some now confirmed as townies, accepted it. Why can't you?
Something else. In his attack on HKKID, SG subtly attacks AoK and Archy as well. He uses an emotional attack(asserting that the two of them are likely to follow HKKID) to undermine their desire to lynch him. This is a terribly scummy thing to do. It puts AoK and Archy in a position where, if they vote SG after this, they just look like sheep because he called them out.
What? So I want to attack the players that I need to convince in order to win the game? You are simply trying to make my expression of my emotions into a way to paint me as the bad guy. You are one using emotions here. And AoK and Archy are townies, why would they care about how they look if they feel they are making the best play?
Honest to god. Sorry, I just got home from a LCQ (18th, sooo close to product prizes :() and I can't comprehend mafia right now. Loran left me a message on AIM saying I vote Cyan whenever I got online, so Vote: Cyan. Cyan even being here blows my mind but whatever.
Yeah, The Source. I thought about posting it myself, but figured not a lot of people would be interested. I will be there though, playing U/G/r Threshold, assuming I can get the list together.
This may seem like a strange question but I am planning on playing physical magic for the first time in a while at Pro Tour: San Diego. I will be playing Threshold and as I was playing around with it today in the real world, I began to wonder what the proper technique for scrying is.
If I want to look at my hand while scrying, I can do so, yes? I am almost sure that is yes, but if so, can I look at my hand as I look at the top two cards of my deck? If so, can I have them in the same hand? I am just wondering if there is any ruling on how I can hold my cards for scrying. I know it may sound odd, I just don't want to be called on something odd. Thanks for any assistance you guys provide.
SorryGuy: Follow HKKID? Sorry, but I really didn't get that. Could you explain abit more, if you would?
I was saying that as the last scum and now with you as a confirmed townie, HKKID is bound to attack me when he finally finds the thread. I was saying that he will make it seem like I am the obvious play and hope that you simply don't pay enough attention to see through what he is saying.
While I don't understand everything that's going on, I'm starting to think that it'd either be HKKID or SorryGuy. SorryGuy, for what happened on Day 4 (but he did present his case very good and I'm starting to think that it might not be you), but then again, I think I'll wait for what HKKID
has to say before saying more.
It is most definitively one of us, but it is not me, it can't be. I confirmed you last night, AoK has been confirmed, and I know that the scum isn't me.
Xyre, I just want you to know that I appreciate your effort in running the game and thank you for it. I didn't enjoy the game very much, and I was rather mean-spirited about it a few times. I'm sorry for that. I know you tried to make a great game, and sometimes it doesn't work out great. At any rate, the game did have some interesting roles.
CP, that was great play and you deserve MVP. Bravo.
On my own part, I feel as though I made a grievous misplay that contributed to the town's lose. While it is true that the dice seemed to hate me throughout the game, not rerolling a one once I had claimed is just silly. It is a testament to how much attention I was paying, I guess, but it is no excuse. Sorry town.
Then by all means explain yourself, your rationale, and your reasons behind yesterday's actions.
I shall. I figured HKKID would have posted by now, but alas, I will present my case with him absent.
So, I lied to the town because it is simply better that way. Scum knowledge is never a good thing. But then I determined it was necessary, I went ahead and did so because I knew that if we didn't just win yesterday, then they couldn't kill me because it would give away who they are. At any rate, with my ability I targeted Archy last night because with H'Roth dead I figured him to be the last scum. But then the kill went through. Seeing as we know that AoK is town, this confirms to me that HKKID is in fact the last scum.
I have to give it to him, I have no idea how he has played so well in his first game. Him leading the charge on Cubus was unexpected but I guess they determined that if one of them got the other lynched or killed, then the other would be left alone. It is a risky play, it is a gambit, but it is a very good one.
The kill from last night is even more of a tip off as to HKKID being the last scum. wamyc, as seen in his last post yesterday, supported me and my actions. As such, I would see scum not wanting him alive as he would agree with me. I also think that outside of HKKID, wamyc has done the most solid analysis this game. Again, I don't think HKKID wants that alive, instead he wants those who are more likely to follow him down the obvious play. And, no offense AoK, Archy, but both of seem to be likely to follow HKKID.
So yes, I understand that after yesterday I seem like the right play. But look at it this way: I was faced with the option of getting killed and having my side likely lose the game or having us be in a position where we win right away or we likely win on the next day. Yes, I had to do what a townie isn't supposed to do to it. But when it is for winning the game and for helping my clan, I think it is worth it.
Actually, the last scum must by HKKID. Also, I am sure all of you will agree with me, we have seven days plus one drop before we need to vote. Seeing as we are in lynch of lose, we need to take all of the time we have. I will explain more later, I am off to school, but lynching me before I can explain would be unfortunate.
Uh, /pink pill? I am not sure when the game will start, but I will most likely be in Rhode Island and unable to access the internet between July 13th and August 5th-6th. I will be able to replace into the game after that date, though.
Current Games - I am only in Clan Contest Mafia right now and that should end soon.
Experience - My signature gives you a good idea, although it is a little outdated. I have played in a little more than twenty games here on MTGS and modded three. I have not played significantly on any other site.
Familiarity with Setting - I have seen the movies.
Roleplaying Ability - I think it is decent, not great. I played around in the Colosseum here awhile ago.
Participation Level - In general I would it is average, although it varies from game to game. When my play level is low it is not for lack of following, just how I play.
Participation Level as Replacement - I would say it is about the same as my normal level. For examples of where I have recently replaced into games see Clan Contest Mafia and DotA. I have replaced into a few others here as well.
All role names were simply based off of the full name information provided by Wikipedia. The groupings went by Jack/Sawyer/Kate being obviously 'the three' if you will, Claire/Charlie/Desmond being the camp people and Locke/Sayid/Rousseau being your traditional weapon wielding sort of outsiders. The role PMs looked like:
Dagger,
You are Hugo “Hurley” Reyes. You are just another Lostaway. You live on the island in relative peace and fancy yourself as being everyone’s friend. In this game, however, it will be your job to try and find who is not your friend. Unfortunately, you are not a man of power. As a result, when you believe you have found these people, your only tool of eliminating them will be your vote. You are a Vanilla Townie and your win condition is to eliminate all those doing the killing on the island.
chaosjuggler,
You are Benjamin “Ben” Linus. You appear to be the Leader of the Others and are ready to finish off all of the Lostaways. You have already eliminated most of them, and now you only have ten left. You and your partner Hyram (Dr. Juliet Burke) have the ability to chose and send to me one person per night period to be killed. It will be your responsibility to send me this name. You are a Mafia Leader and your win condition is to equal in number all those opposed to your rule.
Hyram,
You are Dr. Juliet Burke. You are an Other and are ready to spring up and gain control of the Island. You and your partner chaosjuggler (Benjamin “Ben” Linus) have armed yourself and seem to have everything you need to make this goal a reality. To achieve this goal each night period you and chaosjuggler may select one person to kill. It will be chaosjuggler’s responsibility to send me this name. You are a Mafia Goon and your win condition is to equal in number all those opposed to your rule.
HAWKEYE7,
You are Dr. Jack Shephard. You are one of the three that had been taken hostage by the Others before the war. That time changed you and having found that escape from the Island is possible, you are ready to get off of it. So now that the killings have began and only eleven others are left on the Island, you are ready to take your shot. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Cyan,
You are James “Sawyer” Ford. You are one of the three that had been taken hostage by the Others before the war. During that time, your belief that there was nothing on this Island for you was only affirmed. Now that someone on the Island has taken out most of populace, you are ready to finish the job. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Supermouse,
You are Katherine “Kate” Austen. You are one of the three that had been taken hostage by the Others before the war. During that time, you gave up on any peaceful existence on this Island and just want off of it. Now that most of the Island’s populace has been taken out, you want to finish the job. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last woman standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Ged,
You are Charlie Hieronymus Pace. You are one of the Lostaways who had nothing to do with the war and feel alienated about it. Your old itch for drugs is also beginning to act up again. And now that killing has broken out all over the island, you want to get off of it as quickly as possible. You have concluded the fastest way to do so is to do some of the killing yourself. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Treigit,
You are Claire Littleton. You are one of the Lostaways who had nothing to do with the war but was most hurt by it. The war resulted in the loss of your baby Aaron when he was one of first killed. And now that killing has broken out all over the island, you want to get off of it as quickly as possible. You have concluded the fastest way to do so is to do some of the killing yourself. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting and revenge your baby’s death. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last woman standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Wrath_of_DoG,
You are Desmond David Hume. You are one of the Lostaways who had nothing to do with the war and now feel alienated by it. Your apparent ability of forecasting the future has only furthered with alienation. And now that killing has broken out all over the island, you want to get off of it as quickly as possible. You have concluded the fastest way to do so is to do some of the killing yourself. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
LJustus,
You are Jonathon Locke. You are one of the Lostaways that triggered the war and one of few participants to survive it. Now that killing has broken out, you see an opportunity. You have always wanted to investigate the Island for yourself and now that only those at the meeting are left, you might have your chance. You have concluded the fastest way to ensure everyone dies is to do some of the killing yourself. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Matjoeman,
You are Sayid Hassan Jarrah. You are one of the Lostaways that triggered the war and one of few participants to survive it. It has changed you though. With all of the killing, the Island reminds you of just another war zone. You are tired of it, and want off of the Island. In order to quicken this exit, you want have decided to try and eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Kops,
You are Danielle Rousseau. You are the rebel of the Island and have never wanted to cooperate with anyone here. Now that your daughter has been killed as a part of the war, this conviction is even more strong. With the killing have broken out you see an opportunity to end all of the strife that has occurred over this Island for years. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
The PM that I sent to Dagger about gaining a shot was:
Dagger,
While you had hoped that peace could be found on the Island, it is now becoming more clear to you that this is not going to happen if you only passively resist it. As such, you have taken the movements to arm yourself. At night, you may send me the name of one other player to be killed. Be careful, however, you were only able to manage one bullet, and, as such, you may only use this ability once.
What Dagger did not know about his ability was that when he used it he would be unkillable. He gained it the first time after the mafia died but would have gained it in the preceding period after the death of any group. So he could have gained up to four shots.
So the thing here is that the Sks combined will never kill more than one person per night. This was decided through a process where if any group reached a consensus that kill was taken. If multiple groups had ever reached a consensus then consensus+majority would be taken. In most cases though, when this did not occur, it was simple majority of all of the SKs.
Not sure how successful this will be, but I figure I may as well ask. Is anyone out there in MTGSalvation land planning on attending Pro Tour: San Diego? As a local, I will be there for all four days. I am going to attempt the LCQ (yeah, good luck) and maybe play in the Dual-Land Legacy event (if I can get the duals and forces that U/G/r Threshold calls for, if you want to trade/sell/loan them and will be there, let me know). Besides that I should be roaming around, maybe playing a few side drafts and such.
So, is anyone else attending? If so, I'd love to meet up and maybe do some trading or something. I will list everyone attending here if there is any interest.
So long as no one opposes it too much, I will allow this discussion to continue into tomorrow for multiple reasons before I post the set-up.
Also, I will not be awarding MVPs and LVPs for this game. If the players would like to do so, I am more than willing to bestow it to players to put in signatures and whatnot, but I will not be deciding them myself.
A majority of them are by Kevin Shields, yeah. The rest are more or less attempts to sound like My Bloody Valentine, with some successes. There are some exceptions that don't work great, though, notably Phoenix's Too Young.
I might just stop by.
Yes, I would demur, seeing as I am not a vanilla. Also note that I wouldn't say my aim has been bad, note that loran was playing the role earlier, not me. Plus, with so many vanillas it is expected that I wouldn't hit all that often. Really, overall, I feel that my play has not been bad.
Who is making emotional appeals now, Cyan? Did you even read my post? It was four o'clock in the morning and was a tad tired. I wasn't really up to posting anything. But here is the chatlog I received from loran last night:
[17:55] *** "Josh" signed on at Thu Jun 28 17:55:33 2007.
[18:21] Josh: how was the lcq?
[18:21] *** Auto-response sent to Josh: I am currently away from the computer.
[19:11] Josh: vote cyan when you get back immediately for tiebreakre purposes
[19:11] *** Auto-response sent to Josh: I am currently away from the computer.
[21:24] Josh: howd it go?
[04:10] *** You have been disconnected. Fri Jun 29 04:10:15 2007.
And to say loran is coaching me is ridiculous. This is a clan contest, where we play with our clan. We help each other and we consider the proper play together. So please cut that out, okay Cyan?
This is equally ridiculous. HKKID claimed vanilla first, yes. But he claimed nothing about what was in his PM until after AoK had. He would know that AoK was confirmed and knew that claiming that couldn't be bad. How does knowing this at all confirm you?
I don't remember so I will ask: AoK, when investigated, did you did a PM? Did any of you get protected? If so, did you get a PM then?
This doesn't work because we wouldn't have let him do this? There was far too much pressure on him for that to happen.
For me to praise someone's play is scummy? That just seems coldhearted, Cyan, and I have never seen anyone make that argument before, let alone make it successfully. And as scum, why do I want to soften my argument on HKKID? At this point, it is most definitely you or me. So why would I want to make you sound better? I praised HKKID because, if you have read the whole thread, I have been praising him as the best townie all game long. I still think he has played an amazing game and I am a little embarrassed I was so sure of his townieness. Also, what does HKKID opposing H'Roth's lynch have to do with anything?
That is not what that post is saying, at all. Yes, he said that at the beginning of the post. But it was a stream of conscious post and by the end of it, he was supporting me. He even says he should unvote me unless he is missing something. I don't see any evidence at all that he would be voting for me. And that is why you killing him, because you knew he would be one of the townies supporting me, and not you.
How? Why does it seem like a fabrication to you? Everyone in the game at the time, some now confirmed as townies, accepted it. Why can't you?
What? So I want to attack the players that I need to convince in order to win the game? You are simply trying to make my expression of my emotions into a way to paint me as the bad guy. You are one using emotions here. And AoK and Archy are townies, why would they care about how they look if they feel they are making the best play?
Honest to god. Sorry, I just got home from a LCQ (18th, sooo close to product prizes :() and I can't comprehend mafia right now. Loran left me a message on AIM saying I vote Cyan whenever I got online, so Vote: Cyan. Cyan even being here blows my mind but whatever.
Yeah, The Source. I thought about posting it myself, but figured not a lot of people would be interested. I will be there though, playing U/G/r Threshold, assuming I can get the list together.
If I want to look at my hand while scrying, I can do so, yes? I am almost sure that is yes, but if so, can I look at my hand as I look at the top two cards of my deck? If so, can I have them in the same hand? I am just wondering if there is any ruling on how I can hold my cards for scrying. I know it may sound odd, I just don't want to be called on something odd. Thanks for any assistance you guys provide.
I was saying that as the last scum and now with you as a confirmed townie, HKKID is bound to attack me when he finally finds the thread. I was saying that he will make it seem like I am the obvious play and hope that you simply don't pay enough attention to see through what he is saying.
It is most definitively one of us, but it is not me, it can't be. I confirmed you last night, AoK has been confirmed, and I know that the scum isn't me.
CP, that was great play and you deserve MVP. Bravo.
On my own part, I feel as though I made a grievous misplay that contributed to the town's lose. While it is true that the dice seemed to hate me throughout the game, not rerolling a one once I had claimed is just silly. It is a testament to how much attention I was paying, I guess, but it is no excuse. Sorry town.
I shall. I figured HKKID would have posted by now, but alas, I will present my case with him absent.
So, I lied to the town because it is simply better that way. Scum knowledge is never a good thing. But then I determined it was necessary, I went ahead and did so because I knew that if we didn't just win yesterday, then they couldn't kill me because it would give away who they are. At any rate, with my ability I targeted Archy last night because with H'Roth dead I figured him to be the last scum. But then the kill went through. Seeing as we know that AoK is town, this confirms to me that HKKID is in fact the last scum.
I have to give it to him, I have no idea how he has played so well in his first game. Him leading the charge on Cubus was unexpected but I guess they determined that if one of them got the other lynched or killed, then the other would be left alone. It is a risky play, it is a gambit, but it is a very good one.
The kill from last night is even more of a tip off as to HKKID being the last scum. wamyc, as seen in his last post yesterday, supported me and my actions. As such, I would see scum not wanting him alive as he would agree with me. I also think that outside of HKKID, wamyc has done the most solid analysis this game. Again, I don't think HKKID wants that alive, instead he wants those who are more likely to follow him down the obvious play. And, no offense AoK, Archy, but both of seem to be likely to follow HKKID.
So yes, I understand that after yesterday I seem like the right play. But look at it this way: I was faced with the option of getting killed and having my side likely lose the game or having us be in a position where we win right away or we likely win on the next day. Yes, I had to do what a townie isn't supposed to do to it. But when it is for winning the game and for helping my clan, I think it is worth it.
Current Games - I am only in Clan Contest Mafia right now and that should end soon.
Experience - My signature gives you a good idea, although it is a little outdated. I have played in a little more than twenty games here on MTGS and modded three. I have not played significantly on any other site.
Familiarity with Setting - I have seen the movies.
Roleplaying Ability - I think it is decent, not great. I played around in the Colosseum here awhile ago.
Participation Level - In general I would it is average, although it varies from game to game. When my play level is low it is not for lack of following, just how I play.
Participation Level as Replacement - I would say it is about the same as my normal level. For examples of where I have recently replaced into games see Clan Contest Mafia and DotA. I have replaced into a few others here as well.
I really wish I could, but for the second straight year I will be out of town for almost the entirety of July and hence will be unable to.
Town
Hugo “Hurley” Reyes - Dagger
Mafia
Benjamin “Ben” Linus - Chaosjuggler
Dr. Juliet Burke - Hyram
SK Group 1
Dr. Jack Shephard - HAWKEYE7
James “Sawyer” Ford – Cyan
Katherine “Kate” Austen - Supermouse
SK Group 2
Charlie Hieronymus Pace - Ged
Claire Littleton - Treigit
Desmond David Hume - Wrath_of_DoG
SK Group 3
Johnathan Locke - LJustus
Sayid Hassan Jarrah - Matjoeman
Danielle Rousseau - Kops
All role names were simply based off of the full name information provided by Wikipedia. The groupings went by Jack/Sawyer/Kate being obviously 'the three' if you will, Claire/Charlie/Desmond being the camp people and Locke/Sayid/Rousseau being your traditional weapon wielding sort of outsiders. The role PMs looked like:
Dagger,
You are Hugo “Hurley” Reyes. You are just another Lostaway. You live on the island in relative peace and fancy yourself as being everyone’s friend. In this game, however, it will be your job to try and find who is not your friend. Unfortunately, you are not a man of power. As a result, when you believe you have found these people, your only tool of eliminating them will be your vote. You are a Vanilla Townie and your win condition is to eliminate all those doing the killing on the island.
chaosjuggler,
You are Benjamin “Ben” Linus. You appear to be the Leader of the Others and are ready to finish off all of the Lostaways. You have already eliminated most of them, and now you only have ten left. You and your partner Hyram (Dr. Juliet Burke) have the ability to chose and send to me one person per night period to be killed. It will be your responsibility to send me this name. You are a Mafia Leader and your win condition is to equal in number all those opposed to your rule.
Hyram,
You are Dr. Juliet Burke. You are an Other and are ready to spring up and gain control of the Island. You and your partner chaosjuggler (Benjamin “Ben” Linus) have armed yourself and seem to have everything you need to make this goal a reality. To achieve this goal each night period you and chaosjuggler may select one person to kill. It will be chaosjuggler’s responsibility to send me this name. You are a Mafia Goon and your win condition is to equal in number all those opposed to your rule.
HAWKEYE7,
You are Dr. Jack Shephard. You are one of the three that had been taken hostage by the Others before the war. That time changed you and having found that escape from the Island is possible, you are ready to get off of it. So now that the killings have began and only eleven others are left on the Island, you are ready to take your shot. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Cyan,
You are James “Sawyer” Ford. You are one of the three that had been taken hostage by the Others before the war. During that time, your belief that there was nothing on this Island for you was only affirmed. Now that someone on the Island has taken out most of populace, you are ready to finish the job. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Supermouse,
You are Katherine “Kate” Austen. You are one of the three that had been taken hostage by the Others before the war. During that time, you gave up on any peaceful existence on this Island and just want off of it. Now that most of the Island’s populace has been taken out, you want to finish the job. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last woman standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Ged,
You are Charlie Hieronymus Pace. You are one of the Lostaways who had nothing to do with the war and feel alienated about it. Your old itch for drugs is also beginning to act up again. And now that killing has broken out all over the island, you want to get off of it as quickly as possible. You have concluded the fastest way to do so is to do some of the killing yourself. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Treigit,
You are Claire Littleton. You are one of the Lostaways who had nothing to do with the war but was most hurt by it. The war resulted in the loss of your baby Aaron when he was one of first killed. And now that killing has broken out all over the island, you want to get off of it as quickly as possible. You have concluded the fastest way to do so is to do some of the killing yourself. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting and revenge your baby’s death. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last woman standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Wrath_of_DoG,
You are Desmond David Hume. You are one of the Lostaways who had nothing to do with the war and now feel alienated by it. Your apparent ability of forecasting the future has only furthered with alienation. And now that killing has broken out all over the island, you want to get off of it as quickly as possible. You have concluded the fastest way to do so is to do some of the killing yourself. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
LJustus,
You are Jonathon Locke. You are one of the Lostaways that triggered the war and one of few participants to survive it. Now that killing has broken out, you see an opportunity. You have always wanted to investigate the Island for yourself and now that only those at the meeting are left, you might have your chance. You have concluded the fastest way to ensure everyone dies is to do some of the killing yourself. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Matjoeman,
You are Sayid Hassan Jarrah. You are one of the Lostaways that triggered the war and one of few participants to survive it. It has changed you though. With all of the killing, the Island reminds you of just another war zone. You are tired of it, and want off of the Island. In order to quicken this exit, you want have decided to try and eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
Kops,
You are Danielle Rousseau. You are the rebel of the Island and have never wanted to cooperate with anyone here. Now that your daughter has been killed as a part of the war, this conviction is even more strong. With the killing have broken out you see an opportunity to end all of the strife that has occurred over this Island for years. You have armed yourself and are ready to eliminate everyone at this meeting. But before you can, it appears as though you will have to cooperate with others throughout this meeting. You are a Serial Killer and your win condition is to be the last man standing. Each night period you will have the ability to send me the name of one player to be killed.
The PM that I sent to Dagger about gaining a shot was:
Dagger,
While you had hoped that peace could be found on the Island, it is now becoming more clear to you that this is not going to happen if you only passively resist it. As such, you have taken the movements to arm yourself. At night, you may send me the name of one other player to be killed. Be careful, however, you were only able to manage one bullet, and, as such, you may only use this ability once.
What Dagger did not know about his ability was that when he used it he would be unkillable. He gained it the first time after the mafia died but would have gained it in the preceding period after the death of any group. So he could have gained up to four shots.
Night actions looked like this:
Night 1
Mafia
Chaosjuggler – Wrath_of_DoG
SK Group 1
HAWKEYE7 - LJustus
Cyan – None
Supermouse - LJustus
SK Group 2
Ged - LJustus
Treigit – HAWKEYE7
Wrath_of_DoG - Ged
SK Group 3
LJustus - chaosjuggler
Matjoeman – HAWKEYE7
Kops - chaosjuggler
Night 2
SK Group 1
HAWKEYE7 - Dagger
Cyan – None
Supermouse - Cyan
SK Group 2
Ged - Cyan
Treigit – Kops
SK Group 3
Matjoeman – HAWKEYE7
Kops – Ged
Night 3
Dagger – Matjoeman
SK Group 1
HAWKEYE7 – Treigit
SK Group 2
Ged – Matjoeman
Treigit – HAWKEYE7
SK Group 3
Kops – Treigit
Matjoeman - Dagger
Night 4
SK Group 1
HAWKEYE7 - Ged
SK Group 2
Ged - HAWKEYE7
SK Group 3
Kops - Ged
So the thing here is that the Sks combined will never kill more than one person per night. This was decided through a process where if any group reached a consensus that kill was taken. If multiple groups had ever reached a consensus then consensus+majority would be taken. In most cases though, when this did not occur, it was simple majority of all of the SKs.
Woohoo Nerd Campers!
So, is anyone else attending? If so, I'd love to meet up and maybe do some trading or something. I will list everyone attending here if there is any interest.
Also, I will not be awarding MVPs and LVPs for this game. If the players would like to do so, I am more than willing to bestow it to players to put in signatures and whatnot, but I will not be deciding them myself.