MTG Salvation

Radiant fountain is ok. But i don't want too many colourless land with Mikokoro (a must have!) and Gigadrowse! But at the same time i really want to try a couple in my deck.

Anyone tried Ancestral Vision seriously? I have 4 already cause i play Shardless Bug in Legacy, I still like Serum Vision... I wnat feedback

I did top4 of a 16players modern event last saturday. My 2 lost were against Burn. I got roll over the first time. And the second in the top 4 i killed his Eidolon with a Redirect on Bolt but lost over the next Eidolon! Sideboard was very untuned and old. Last time i played the deck was before eldrazi winter and twin was legal... Ugh! Wipe Away is not very good atm



I want more fast counter in SB => Dispel / Negate... and i want to test the 1-2 Engulf the Shore in SB

As long as you hit lands drop you don't need to be hasty with this deck. I Sb out a couple of Cryptic more often than i would like to admit (vs control for exemple) protecting your combo with a 4 mana counter is not great. Sometime I still keep one post SB. You can also use it a semi-gain turn. Pass turn with 6-7 mana up and cryptic and Gigadrowse in hand. Its basicly gain turn. Post SB, you'r not suppose to touch the core of you deck. You can upgrade your Counterspell, Remand for exemple is bad in control matchup. Its really good VS midrange. Remand a Tramogoyf/Kalithas is like to gain a turn! So Negate/Dispel and cie... Instead of slow semi-counter. You just upgrade your cards. Control is really an easy mathc up if you can resolve howling mine effect. Howling mine effect are the most important thing in this matchup. Good players will try to attack those cards. Bad player will try to counter Time Warp. You need 1.5 mine-effect in play to win. That means that 1 in not enough, 2 is more than enough at 3 its almost overkill. Beware of discarting when you try to play fast during the combo. Worst matchup is RDW Affinity Infect Boggle... (Fast combo/aggro). Midrange and Control are easy as ****! Back in the days, twin was one of my favorite matchup. Look at this deck like a scapeshift deck. Except the scapeshift need 5min to resolve.

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For Tip #2, how isn't hushwing gryff invincible to doomwake giant? Isn't that the purpose of the gryff?

The ability Constellation trigger from a "legendary enchantment artifact"(named Whip of Erebos) even with a Hushwing Gryff in play because the ability of the Gryff only affect creatures. (Creatures entering the battlefield don't cause abilities to trigger.) If they don't have a Whip of Erebos in play and they play a Doomwake Giant in front a Hushwing Gryff already in play... don't play a 2nd or a 3rd Hordling Outburst or a second Gryff except if its for lethal or something. Its still a really good card against the rest of the deck­. Sidisi, Brood Tyrant, is a lot more managable as a 3/3 only, so are Satyr Wayfinder, Doomwake Giant, Wingmate Roc, Siege Rhino and Hornet Queen. It won't always happen, just be aware that it exists!

the thing is... people don't want your creativity or klug's creativity. it worth less because its a "lot" and people think a "lot of cards" = discount. You will clearly get more as singles but it will take more time for sure. Half of the fun of building a cube is spending 50$ each week to build/pimp it and building your own list. i wouldn't pay 2k for a edh deck or a cube... but i would gladly build one overtime that worth that much.

P.S. : find other cubers that would want the foil cards to pimp thier own cube.

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ALWAYS BOLT ZE BIRD

Hey Burn players, what's your opinion on Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet? I'm kind of using him as my go to card against Burn. I play Grixis and find burn super tough to beat. Is he a legitmately good card to use against you or is he easily dealt with/played around? Thanks in advance.

He is a must deal with. The only problem is he is somewhat slow, not being able to attack until t5. With the counter spells and discard available in grixis, it shouldn't be too difficult to allow him to swing. We have to kill him before he can start swinging in, plus he can stonewall most Creatures in burn.

He's part of the reason I have a Terminate in board. Naya will bring in PtE to deal with him.

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Anyone tried Ancestral Vision seriously? I have 4 already cause i play Shardless Bug in Legacy, I still like Serum Vision... I wnat feedback

I've added 4x AV to my deck and only 1 time that I suspended it was it a trap. All of the other times, I'd say 4-5 times in 8 games, it was just as good, or better than a Howling Mine. I dropped 2x mine and 3 total warp cards so that I can play the full set of Vision & Visions. Only lost to elves, and that was the game I should have NOT suspended the AV and held up for an EoT Dictate into a turn 4 cryptic to tap him down, then to a turn 5 Time Warp. Who knows how the game would have gone in that scenario? Overall, I'm completely sold on Ancestral Vision as a key component to our deck becoming a solid tier 2 strategy.

Still in favor of a single Mikokoro.

Jim Davis, SCG live:

funny how quickly eldrazi devastator was obsoleted in it's own set.

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Once again, thanks for keeping up with this. You don't get much activity here, but I print this out and use it to trade every FNM.

I'm glad to hear it is being useful. I was offline for a while because I reinstalled my operating system, and didn't configure it fully, so I'm glad people are happy its back.

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I need to make a little function to parse the full set text names into their three character shorts, and add to the list. For now you will have to guess whether that Tarmogoyf price is MMA or Future Sight.

There have been a number of allegations made about the winner of the 7/27 Houston PTQ Theros. As the Head Judge at this event, I think it is important for me to make a few statements about what did (and did not ) happen. This will be my only statement on the issue, because arguing further seems futile.

First and foremost, the biggest complaint about the player in question is that he played too many copies of Elvish Archdruid. At one point, the player in question did have multiple Archdruids in play and revealed one for a +1 activation of Garruk. This much is true. After this point, the facts of what happened have already started to break down. There is some speculation from those not involved in the call that, at this point, the player tried to hide things. This is simply not true. What happened was that, a judge was called and upon comparison with the deck list, 6 copies of the archrduid were found where it was listed as a 4/4 split between Elvish Archdruids and Elvish Mystics. (NOT Avacyn's pilgrims, BTW, as white mana is useless in this mono-green deck.) Both players waited for the ruling, and nothing was hidden or shuffled away. The judge said that the current game was over (which was correct, since the penalty for a deck list problem is a GL) and THEN the players started to shuffle. The deck was also corrected at this point, so the rest of the event was played with a deck that was legal and matched the list.

As an aside... some would like to point out the significance of the Archdruids here, but I think that's overstated. Archdruid can't drop until turn 3. This deck likes to play turn a threat turn 2, like predator ooze. That can't happen without a 1-drop mana creature. This is not to say that Archdruids are not quality, and do not have an impact on the game--just that I think the particular significance is being overstated.

How did this happen? The player stated that he bought the deck in its entirety the day before. He sent his list to a store, got the cards and just sleeved it. Seems a bit of a stretch at first, but how many players have you heard had a friend hand them a deck? Further, I had an employee for the store in question on my staff. Talking with that employee, the question was raised of whether this is an understandable error. The answer is that the person who pulls cards has been known to be quite sloppy. Also, as a long-time judge in this area, I know the reputation of many of the regular players. I know from experience with this player that this is consistent with how he operates in getting decks at the last minute. So, as it happens, the answer is that yes--it is quite believable that this happened exactly as presented.

A second complaint about the player is that he had his deck in clear sleeves. These were not just penny sleeves, mind you--they were the nice ultra-pro or dragon shield sleeves. I've been a judge for a long time; I'm no stranger to marked cards or sleeves. Let me tell you: these cards were not marked in any way. Just about every deck in the room playing solid color sleeves looked much worse than these cards. In fact, I had several players who were very unhappy to receive game loss penalties because I could see their transform cards through their sleeves during the day--but I digress. The cards were not marked.

During the top 4 I picked up his SB to look through it. This was not for any particular reason. I tend to do this while waiting on top X matches; I'll grab a sideboard that's on the table and look at it. What I found surprised me: 17 cards. I looked more closely, and noticed 2 copies of Garruk and 2 checklist cards. OK, 17 makes sense; you can't play the Garruk in clear sleeves, so there are checklist cards. Then I looked at those checklist cards... and they had nothing marked. I really wish we had caught this at the same time we caught the other issue, but the fact is that we didn't. I saw no reason in this case to deviate from policy. I knew he had no other transform cards, I knew we had missed it earlier, and I still issued a game loss in the Top 4. Bam, go to game 3.

I've heard complaints of illegal blocks made by the same player during the day--Mutavault blocking Stromkirk Noble, for example. Yes, this was illegal. Mistakes happen, and this is an easy one to miss or forget when your deck doesn't (ostensibly) contain any humans. Guess what? The opponent didn't say anything and didn't call a judge when it happened, so obviously his opponents missed it too. I guess this came up in conversation later, because someone pointed it out and we (as judges) DID hear about it. A floor judge talked to the player, and we believe it to have been missed. Also, because we talked with him it wouldn't happen again--or, if it did, we knew he had been told--but we couldn't help until someone told a judge.

I've heard complaints, too, that he "always seemed to have his sideboard cards." Well, guess what? I watched him side as many as 8 in. When you side in 8 cards, you're going to draw at least a couple. In the final game, he drew 2 copies of Plummet. His opponent drew 2 Olivias. It was a perfect foil, but how did he know his opponent would have 2 copies of Olivia? If that had been 2 copies Huntmaster of the Fells instead, those 2 Plummets would have been dead draws.

At the end of the day, the player received 2 game losses during the day, with one of them during the Top 4. The player STILL managed to win through 9 rounds of swiss and the top 8. Did he do it with dumb errors? Yes. Did he do it with some "run good" ? Sure, but I'm not about to start disqualifying players simply because "they're running too hot" or because they do dumb things like not verifying their purchased decks. Those who know me, know that I won't hesitate to remove someone from my events. I had no cause to do so at this event, and we have a winner.

As a final note... I think it's shameful that, as a community, we don't report errors when they happen but instead wait to tear someone down when they're on top. If you are concerned about something happening at an event, report it immediately. If you're going to wait and complain on forums, expect to be treated the same way should you ever manage to climb to the top. After all, to make the top 8 at a 9 round PTQ, "you have really good luck, or you cheat."

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I swear to you...sometime the people who post these threads can't have been part of the game for more than a few months. Predicting Voice of Resurgence to dip below $10 EVER is just a ridiculous thought. The card is a mythic first and foremost. Then it is a bear with a stupid strong ability tucked into it. Then it gives you something if it dies to replace itself, forcing people to play RFG spells, just for it! Get a grip folks...I can almost guarantee that the people making these predicting are the same folks that sold out early or waited too long to buy in.

The card will go down to, MAYBE, $40 when Theros rotates in. When it finally rotates out of Standard it may fall to $30 and then rebound each year like every other tier 1 playable card.

Looks like auctions and BIN's are already closing at <$40. I personally have no stake in the card, but I don't see it maintaining it's prices - especially after playing through huntmaster/bonfire summer last year. The only thing I have similar is the history of the snake - http://ark42.com/mtg/pricehistory.php?s=Zendikar&c=Lotus+Cobra

Dragonmaster Outcast, Warren Instigator are the only other valuebears at mythic I've seen - and they're both 10$ or less.

EDIT: This fella debuted at $40 AT SSG'S Presell, I think :http://ark42.com/mtg/pricehistory.php?q=Duskmantle+Seer&d=0