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  • posted a message on Star Wars VS Star Trek
    Quote from Fluffy_Bunny
    Or you warp straight to the enemy planets...


    Gravity well created by a black hole means you're trapped there until your engines take you sufficiently far out of it that they won't accelerate to X speed while the rest of your ship is still at X-Y speed.

    Star Trek has teleporter technology, which quite frankly owns everything that the Star Wars universe has going for it. Transporting torpedoes right to the edges of a shield (or through them, they have to lower for your own laser and missile fire), along with the vastly more powerful weapons and dramatically faster, more maneuverable ships means that any sort of engagement would end horribly for the Star Wars ships. The cloaking device used by Klingon vessels was only capable of being detected in the Star Wars universe by very rare sensor, non standard sensor systems, adding a huge layer of power to Trek vessels that can assault outposts and bases without them with impunity.

    The Galaxy class cruiser Enterprise used by Picard in TNG was faster than Star Wars fighter craft and competently armed, despite being a vessel dedicated to science and diplomacy. It wouldn't take many of those to leverage the advantage of Trek forces against a numerically superior force, particularly if they brought warships outfitted with the kind of space warping weaponry that Trek is so fond of.
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  • posted a message on Chris Dorner
    Quote from el_pato
    Quote from Jimbo
    Dude, he killed two people who had nothing to do with him, tracked down another that also had nothing to do with him

    These people were either LAPD, retired LAPD, or family members. They were not random people. In fact, the random people he did come into contact with, such as the maids he tied up and a guy he carjacked, were not killed, because he chose not to kill completely innocent bystanders.

    attacked the guard detail that had been posted BECAUSE of him. Then after that didn't work, he attacked two police officers sitting in their car, killing one and wounding the other.

    Of course he did, they are cops, and he's at war with cops. You may not agree with his decisions, but they are not "crazy". Do you think that terrorists who take innocent hostages are "crazy"? No, they have a goal and they do what is necessary and tactically realistic to achieve that goal. It makes sense that Dorner went to war with LAPD in general instead of specific targets because it would have been much more difficult to take out specific targets than to pick off randoms here and there. Moral? Not hardly in the abstract. But not crazy either.

    all of this five years AFTER he had been dismissed from the LAPD.

    I'd suspect him of being loony more if he staged this immediately after being dismissed. But he had five years to plan and think this over. That makes tactical sense (letting things cool) and it demonstrates patience.


    OK, let's take a step back here.

    First things first -
    1) Man fired from LAPD
    2) Man writes lengthy manifesto detailing abuses either real or imagined, for the benefit of the doubt, let's say they were real
    3) Man proposes to right said wrongs by attacking LAPD and family members of LAPD, killing as many as possible

    Do you see why people think he was unbalanced now? His actions do not bespeak of rationality. If everything was real, he could've called a journalist or a lawyer. Instead he decided the only solution to his problem was to murder not only those responsible for his actions, but their families as well. Even if everything in his manifesto was 100% true, he was still doing a course of action that was absolutely incorrect to repair it or achieve justice.

    If the man was 100% on the level rather than, he was twisted and obsessed. Killing the daughter of a man whom he used to work with, and her boyfriend, is an act of sadistic revenge that doesn't even come close to achieving his goals. The LAPD aren't saints - their reputation for excessive force is well earned. But we cannot condone the murder of innocent civilians because they happened to be related to people that someone claims are corrupt. That's sadism.
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  • posted a message on Chris Dorner
    Quote from el_pato
    Quote from Nis

    Basically the man went off the rails.


    I like this one-line summary when you remove any implication that "off the rails" means crazy. He saw no path to justice and chose to carve a new dark path.


    Dude, he killed two people who had nothing to do with him, tracked down another that also had nothing to do with him, attacked the guard detail that had been posted BECAUSE of him. Then after that didn't work, he attacked two police officers sitting in their car, killing one and wounding the other. He took hostages later, then attempted to flee - all of this five years AFTER he had been dismissed from the LAPD.

    Running around killing people who have nothing to do with you isn't justice, it's murder. I'm not defending the response of the respective officers who clearly bungled and were much too forceful - shooting the pickup truck, the Fish and Wildlife guys just shooting at him - they should be severely punished. A person who runs around shooting civilians raises some pretty serious questions about their mental competence.
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  • posted a message on Chris Dorner
    Quote from Kahedron
    For those foreigners amongst us... Who is he And what did he do to warrent a shoot on sight order??

    The article above on mentioned he killed a couple of cops. Is that it or is there more to the story?


    New York Times article is linked here:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/14/us/dorner-california-remains-police-shootout.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0&hp

    Summary:
    Dorner was a formy navy reservist. In 2008, he was dismissed from LAPD after an internal investigation revealed he had lied about a training officer assaulting a homeless man

    he claimed he was dismissed wrongly, citing racism and corruption within the LAPD (not impossible, they've had that historically of that, but are much better than they used to be)

    Dorner issued a manifesto threatening LAPD officers and their families

    On the 3rd of February, 2013, police discovered two murder victims - the daughter of an officer (retired) who played a role in his disciplinary case and her boyfriend (ages 28 and 27 respectively)

    On the 6th of February, 2013, he attempted to hijack a boat and sail to Mexico, but it broke and he fled.

    On the 7th of February at 1:45 AM officers protecting one of the people he mentioned in a manifesto riddled with threats to LAPD officers and their families were confronted. Shots were exchanged and one of the officers was grazed on the side of the head.

    Later that same night, Dorner attacked two LAPD officers in their car, killing one and wounding the other

    At 5:20 that same morning, officers shot at two women delivering newspapers based off mistaken information about the truck he was driving, which was completely over the line. No ID of the driver, no backup, etc. Very, very bad situation - they should be severely punished. Luckily, no one was killed.

    A few days later, he broke into a home and took hostages, leaving Tuesday afternoon.

    Dorner was spotted by a department of fish and wildlife official in a stolen white dodge pickup (12pm tuesday), who stupidly got out of his vehicle and took a few shots at him. They followed him to his cabin, and a shootout ensued, drawing lots of officers and trapping Dorner.

    Details of how the cabin caught fire and how Dorner died aren't something I've seen so far.

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    TLDR: the guy got fired from the police and 5 years later threatened many of them, and started shooting the family members of said police force. The situation rapidly escalated as Dorner attacked four police officers on Tuesday, and culminated in a shoot out at his cabin, which caught fire for (so far to us) unknown reasons.

    Shooting the pickup truck in the city and wounding two newspaper delivery women they hadn't even identified was outrageous. The cabin I'll wait till I hear something about how the fire started before passing judgment on how that was handled, but the Fish and Wildlife officer taking shots at Dorner seems from where I'm standing to be a huge lapse of judgment.
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  • posted a message on Pokemon X and Y
    If the Eevee is a flying type, my guess would be -
    HP: 65
    Attack: 110
    Defense: 60
    Sp. Attack: 95
    Sp. Defense: 60
    Speed: 130

    If we get a dragon one and are lucky, it'll be:
    HP: 130
    Attack: 60
    Defense: 110
    Sp. Attack: 60
    Sp. Defense: 95
    Speed: 65

    Your basic Eevee is at best either a glass cannon or a tank. So hopefully it'll be one of those without being 1HKO'ed by a Raticate's pursuit unlike certain Eeveelutions.
    Posted in: Video Games
  • posted a message on Is America a christian Nation?
    Quote from BurningPaladin
    Quote from Jimbo
    The nation has always been majority Christian...... The powers of the Constitution are vested in it by we, the People, and they flow from people to people, recognizing no higher authority in our affairs of government.


    Uhh, so what your saying is that the U.S is a christian country?


    I'm saying the people are and the government is not. Decisions may be made informed by religion, but we reject it as the basis of our law.
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  • posted a message on Is America a christian Nation?
    The nation has always been majority Christian, but tension between religious groups resulted in the amendments regarding the federal government neither establishing nor prohibiting religious freedoms.

    There were significant tensions between various Protestant groups at the foundation of the nation, as well as Catholicism (recall that concerns were raised by some that JFK would be beholden to the Pope). Not to mention that discrimination against Jews remained fashionable until the 1940's, and by and large non Judaism/Christianity/Islam religions don't get mentioned in any discussion of religions. We are a nation that has a majority Christian religious followers, but our federal government does not draw on this to make decisions directly and is not aligned with any faith. The powers of the Constitution are vested in it by we, the People, and they flow from people to people, recognizing no higher authority in our affairs of government.
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  • posted a message on Healthcare a failure in the US?
    The organization of health care in the US is by and large a mess but not a failure. Attempts to make it either a state system or a private system have both ended up half assed. Here's the run down:

    1) any sort of health care law meets pretty fierce opposition in Congress, no matter what it is

    2) the cost of procedures and drugs is considered a trade secret. Since it isn't public info everything is decided behind closed doors in an extremely decentralized system, so every major insurance company and health care provider has different contracts for different drugs, effectively negating the impact of competition on pricing.

    3) Therapies don't undergo rigorous testing in the US for how effective they are compared to alternatives. A thorough review of every product and treatment on the market is long past overdue.

    4) Consolidation in the medical industry hasn't delivered any returns - large institutional medical practices are more expensive than smaller practitioners due to large layers of bureaucracy inherent in large private businesses. A small practice doesn't have a legal, marketing, or accounting department, and is a more efficient structure for delivering care. A hospital is not an efficient structure for delivering routine care - it requires a pharmacy and its technicians. The marketing, legal, accounting, technology, and maintenance departments. The management structure needed to strap such an organization together - the procurement specialists needed to feed it.

    5) Record retention isn't a huge cost thing, but it could easily be improved by accepting digital records and that's a quick fix that could save some $$$.

    6) You could shunt products that can be acquired via a prescription to be OTC only and that would be a HUGE relief. Big savings if you dropped the coverage for oral contraceptives and chronic antacids and made them only OTC (apart from the injectables). Stuff like Dexilant and Nexium has no business being a prescription only product; Prilosec and Prevacid are outrageously expensive behind the counter. They should kick them out of the pharmacy and into the aisles where they belong. Oral contraceptives are basically 3 different products in combination and there are over 40 different kinds of tablet on the shelf last time I checked not including the injectables or transdermal systems.

    7) Insurance is a mixed bag, but the cost for the sick invariably falls on somebody insured, whether the ill are insured or not. Since anyone can go to an emergency room regardless of ability to pay those costs will be shunted onto people who are insured, effectively making EVERYONE insured. This drives up costs even more. The exchanges of the ACA (Obamacare) are a politically feasible compromise, the rise in costs is because of changes on the supply end, not insurance companies. The costs of new treatments, the extreme expense of end of life care, etc.

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    The end result of all this is the following: health care in the US is very good, if you can afford it. Routine treatment is readily affordable, but many routine treatments themselves are extremely highly priced because the development cycle for them is so long, so fraught with peril, and Americans tolerate paying so much. Insurance companies for the most part run pretty trim profits. The extreme profits come from a few pharma companies making brand name or otherwise extreme expensive products (Novo Nordisk springs to mind, they're a HUGE company), for most of the rest it's a lot of peripherals attached to a decentralized system. Just lots of employees needed to make large enterprises like hospitals work.
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  • posted a message on What is your Tolerance Limit for Conspiracy?
    Quote from Yorutenchi
    My main question to you is what is the evidence that points to the offical story? Obviously its possible and the main reason that I doubt it was or have my doubts is because of the bullet wound. Is it possible that an anomaly was the cause of the inconsistant enter and exit wound scenario that should have happened and what actually happened?

    Oswald was Killed before his trail by a man with already terminal cancer and an alleged link to the underworld.

    Could all of it be crazy and just luck? Yeah. But honestly I can assurt that it is just as likely that it was not.


    Pretty much all of the inconsistencies were created by people reporting before facts were nailed down. It's similar to the Senate grilling Hillary Clinton over her reports over Benghazi - the CIA gave her incomplete and inaccurate information because they didn't know everything yet and they needed to report something.

    It's not crazy to question the reports given how many and contradictory they could be, but there wasn't a magic bouncing bullet - they just reported people sitting on the wrong side of the car, and the bullet actually passed through Kennedy, which isn't uncommon. JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald, who was shot and killed by Jack Ruby, and all the dozens of conspiracy theorists since then, and huge amounts of work and study, haven't been able to point to additional evidence. Case. Closed.
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  • posted a message on What is your Tolerance Limit for Conspiracy?
    Actual conspiracies are way more focused than the vast conspiracies of 9/11 truthers and the Zionist agenda.

    Like, say, selling weapon to a hostile foreign power so you can aid fascist rebels in order to maintain the balance of power with a foreign empire. Now that's a conspiracy - specifically, Iran/Contra. Or overthrowing an independent government to replace it with a tyrant that would be friendly to your interests - specifically, the installation of the Shah in Iran. Or, you could rig interest rates on financial transactions in order to reap billions of dollars in profits - the LIBOR scandal. Or you could weaken your already tasked central government, allowing yourself more breathing room for clandestine activities benefiting the wealth and power of your members, like Pakistan's army is doing right now.

    Conspiracies exist, they're clandestine projects, but they have some kind of clear, self interested goal. They also almost invariably show up as being blatantly obvious once they get going, as people aren't stupid and reaping the benefits of conspiracy requires showing up to get paid. Large conspiracies don't work very well since the best way to break security is to tell a huge number of people about your awesome secret project.


    Most government conspiracies involve undermining political powers and spying. In the private sector, it's all about the money. Just using secrecy to advance your goals.
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  • posted a message on Car people: Is mileage the best determiner of car life?
    As long as you maintain your vehicle properly, not putting a lot of mileage on it is a good way to get a lot of years out of a car.

    Using a vehicle is what stresses its pieces for the most part; ultimately what happens is something critical breaks and fixing it is more trouble than its worth. For instance, my family bought a Plymouth Voyager in '99 or '00. The car had no engine trouble, but eventually in 2011 minor nicks from gravel and salt resulted in the cars cast iron frame starting to rust. At that age, a car of that model was worth less than $1000 despite running in excellent condition with no other trouble. Repairing the frame would have cost far more than its worth.

    As long as the bits of the car are well made and well maintained, you can expect a lot of mileage out of them. I can't speak for the electrical system of a vehicle, but at 40k miles your car should last you quite a while until it gets the vehicular equivalent of a stroke. There are cars that are 40 years old running in a number of developing nations.
    Posted in: Talk and Entertainment
  • posted a message on DmC
    The gameplay is smooth and the combat is good.

    It's a pity that in every other regard, it's worse than DMC4, so I would rank it as:
    DMC3
    DMC1
    DMC4
    DMC5

    Would recommend you purchase DMC3 and play that if you want a DMC game. Honestly, it played at its best when it essentially was you, as the player, playing anime-esque fight scenes and other over the top stuff. Bereft of that over the top aspect, it loses its distinction from other brawlers, and becomes a hard sell for $50 when there are similar, superior games in the same series for less money.


    As for the whole wrecking it...they sure didn't do the series any favors by toning down everything except the combat. I mean, Resident Evil 4 was a legitimately good game on its own merits. DMC5, unfortunately, is not. The characters were a distracting irritation from the hack and slash gameplay, and at every point they were talking I found myself either wanting them to be quiet or acting like mature adults.

    Verdict: 2.5 out of 4 stars, cannot recommend.
    Posted in: Video Games
  • posted a message on Why we are desensitized to death
    People aren't actually desensitized to death. Virtual death in video games isn't actual death and people are smart enough to realize the difference. Real, actual death - that's something different, and it still freaks people out.

    Farmers are more desensitized to death because they deal with dead animals all the time. For your average joe it's still pretty ****ing scary. I mean, video games didn't make people violence, and SimCity didn't usher in a new era of kids becoming urban planners. Who exactly is getting desensitized to death, here?
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  • posted a message on Avengers Vs. X-Men (Specialized)
    The Avengers just have more raw power than the X-men on their side. Even if you don't supercharge everyone of the Avengers and do what they can do at their maximum in universe power, they'd still eat the X-Men. If you give them all their in Universe tricks for everyone they'd make mincemeat of the X-Men.

    Their best bet would be what CatMurderer said and bet the farm on Rogue. If she can't beat them all on her own then, the rest of the team would be forced to submit and eventually Rogues stolen powers would drain away - leaving her easy prey for the Avengers. Long range missiles from Iron Man would be able to do horrible thing to the X-Men before they were able to get close, knocking away Cyclops's visor and knocking out any of them who aren't Colossus for more than the 1 hour rule. That leaves either Colossus alone or Colossus empowered Rogue as the last one standing.

    This is all assuming they use the powers at their disposal and do not suffer plot induced stupidity.
    Posted in: The Versus Forum
  • posted a message on Avengers Vs. X-Men (Specialized)
    Iron Man would kill all of the X men all on his own.

    the problem with psychics is either they A) work or B) don't. There's no resistance to psychic powers - you're either immune or vulnerable as a kitten. It's why Xavier is so powerful - he fights in ways his opponents cannot. That's why they made him wheelchair bound, otherwise he'd be a plot breaker in every comic. As well as why they killed off/weakened/whatever the hell they did with Jean Grey and the Crimson Witch.

    Let's look at the X men -
    Cyclops - a *****. No danger of him doing anything. They should have killed him off years ago for good and replaced him with somebody decent.
    Wolverine - actually capable but severely outgunned by every member of the Avengers.
    Ice Man - maybe if he can freeze the blood in peoples veins. If it requires touch then it's a no go.
    Beast - is not invulnerable. Can't fly.
    Nightcrawler - fast, nothing else to recommend him in a fight.
    Storm - wind and lightning bolts are cute. They are not as good as Tony Stark's suit, and can't hurt him.
    Colossus - can't fly, resistant to damage.
    Rogue - can't do anything vs. Iron Man.

    It would be worse if you put the other members of the Avengers against the X-men. Like Thor, and Hulk, who could take the entirety of them on their own, too.
    Posted in: The Versus Forum
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