The deal with being in public and somewhat called "harassment" (and i clearly distinquish between a from a court defined harassment and a person just feeling they are harassed) , is that its really different pieces.
As a private person you have no impact on public that even remotely justifies that anyone attacks you directly.
However, as a public person, like a politician or as we have here, a cosplayer that actively presents their body in public on public events to players, its in your right to criticizes exactly that, which is the body, its presented in a sexualized manner, so commenting in that way is not even inappropriate (might not be your personal taste, but thats a different deal).
If a private person gets mails from random persons theres zero reason or justification, so thats an entirely different matter compared to someone that publicly pushes themselves into public opinion.
Its a really important part of projecting this matter to the context its presented in.
If i see a women feeding a baby and i tell her "You are a 6/10, i wouldnt even rape you" , it would be an unbelieavable inappropriate thing to say , but to someone that in public makes money by presenting their body ? If i tell that to a stripper ? Inapprioriate for sure, but still an entirely different deal, as context matters, the environment matters and if you do not want to expose to that, you are not forced, you can simply not do that job.
If you go to the extreme and outlaw any potenially rude comment, you restrict language by a great deal, so much that people cannot express anything without fear somebody will feel hurt or insulted, and if that justifies that your social media gets permanently flagged and you suffer for it, its a way more extreme response than the "rude comment" started out as.
The adult option would be to point the rude comments out and keep it on a apprioriate level of response, you can talk stuff out and discuss it to proof a point without going to war directly , and still keep in mind, that no person is outright evil, for such things.
And yes, the real sick people are the ones that perform the threats, thats just downright cruelty and has no other reason than pleasing a sadistic pleasure, and that is absolutely nothing a society has to, or should accept, but its a completely different animal to a critic from an public figure.
I am on the side to promote that individuals are responsible for what they are doing.
Jeremy didnt incite harassment, he did poorly phrased comments sure, but thats hardly crazy evil, its just rude and if you talk to him about that, yes ofcourse he knows himself its rude, and thats about it, you can stand above it and realize that something thats already enough, realize you gone a bit to far and the moment you are told so, you can better yourself, problem solved ; the sick people that continue to threaten , thats what remains, but thats adults, responsible for their actions, and any adult that isnt insane should have enough intelligence to not even do that to begin with.
Racist comments are a special kind of deal, just as gay-topics etc. etc.
Its highly controversial to many people and especially your work place is a context with special meaning here.
If i make a racial comment in private, thats it, nobody cares. If someone is insulted they can sue me, i get appropriate punishment, and/or we settle the topic before it escalates, thats the potential for discussion and understanding that is much more valuable than taking every little comment and blow it up like its a death threat right away ; its clearly not.
In your context part you clearly see context matters so much.
Context is key for this here.
All the screenshots are mostly out of context and look entirely different if you get the big picture.
Yes people are offended a lot, but its undeniably a thing you have to be able to deal with if you have any kind of public job, or open yourself up to that (and if you cannot deal with it, its simply the wrong job for you, as theirs issues with lots of jobs and you cannot just blame others for that, self-responsility is a thing, its not that others are always to blame for anything you do and anything you do will have an effect on others, if your job is in public, thats a given).
I think america in special a lot of people are highly influenced by what some special individuals say , so they build up some form of responsibility for what they say, simply because of that.
And i think, it again depends on context and what group you talk to.
In the case here the group of people is the magic community, people that watch Jeremys Channel, thats already a very small subsection again and people that enjoy trollish comments, so they are already open to that and have their own problems why they cannot control what they are doing (as no sane person would write a death threat email to anybody, but lots of people do, especially in heated discusions and extreme topics).
But here Jeremy cannot be at fault for what individuals end up doing, the targeted audience are adults, and should totally be able to control themselves.
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Your last part.
I also think he could be much less rude in his comments and from his latest comments he acknowledges this, as often you have to be told you are going over the edge, and if its good to think about it (but again, its about critic and staying on a non-extreme course, you want discussion and not open war).
Lots of stuff i can relate to and the topic is simply overblown by extreme margins.
In the end, people said some mean things and others reacted to them ; thats actually all that happened, thats rude at best, but its not downright evil.
This topic would much easier and smoother be solved in a much smaller circle, or in private between these two.
Pulling it to public just makes things worse, by a lot and it doesnt serve anybody, be they right or wrong, in the end, this open warfare just damages the community and people will bunker themselves into even more extreme sides and become even more unable to discuss anything without directly insulting each other.
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But one thing is guaranteed, this will be a hot topic for the rest of the week and probably the next one, and at some point, nobody will care anymore and just play Magic again.
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Nov 30, 2017TheOnlyOne652089 posted a message on If You Can't Take Criticism of Jeremy Hambly, You're Part of the ProblemPosted in: Articles
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Nov 30, 2017TheOnlyOne652089 posted a message on If You Can't Take Criticism of Jeremy Hambly, You're Part of the ProblemThe fact that a comment makes someone feel harassed doesnt mean it is harassment.Posted in: Articles
Just because someone feels insulted, its not automatic evil in nature.
Most important, he never told to her directly, you literally have to seek out his channel to see the comments, so you actively have to search yourself to see negative comments about yourself.
The indisputable issue are the sick minded individuals that go over the top and do exactly that, email directly, twitter to her directly etc. They do the harassment, they are 100% guilty for it, and they qualify for it, as they indeed take a sadistic pleasure in doing that, its among the most harmful type of troll.
Then theres a difference between private people and people in public.
As a private person nobody has any public interest in what i do and so comments about my person would be out of context.
The moment what you are doing is part of a community, like cosplay at a grand prix and doing pictures of that etc. You present yourself in public and so comments about exactly that are clearly presented.
That alone is no harassment and its just as important to clearly draw a line between what people truly say and what is casually said, simply put, if you are talking to a group of people for hours, chances are you will say something stupid and someone will feel insulted ; so it has to be viewed in context and not just "oh god, look what he said" , and finger point exactly that and ignore anything else.
And especially for Jeremys channel, its clearly a form of topics and talking that you might easily find offending, others do not, some think hes right about a bunch of stuff, and i believe you can easily see he has a bunch of points.
All the so called harassment can be put down to context that gives it a background, so that is what makes the topic a lot more slippery than just believing its all crystal clear.
The idea of thinking its downright crystal clear and theres only black/white in it, is already short sighted, as you have to see more of the picture to get a real glimpse of the actual truth.
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Nov 30, 2017TheOnlyOne652089 posted a message on If You Can't Take Criticism of Jeremy Hambly, You're Part of the ProblemYea, if people truly think theres just 1 problem at hand, and that others, but ofcourse never themselves are a part of it, thats just ridiculous, as it is the kind of finger pointing that just wants to make someone else responsible for what you think is bad.Posted in: Articles
If someone truly feels harassed, seek the police, file a claim, prevent the harassment, thats what you can do as an adult, theres a little bit of responsibility for your own too.
Its not your job to defend your wife, if you truly want fairness, she can do that on her own and she should be absolutely able and willing to do so (and if she isnt, that is a problem you have to start working on).
Its always a big question mark, if you have to drag your personal issues into public.
That just makes everything worse, much worse, as you are suddenly exposed to people that choose sides and over dramatic defend it, no matter if it effects them at all.
The adult way to solve the issue would simply be if she started out to simply ask to stop exactly what she thinks is bothering her. Any responsible adult will accept that and change behavior if its reasonable, and if they dont, you file a claim against them, so they get judged by a neutral court (or you are proven wrong on your feeling of being harassed, thats also an option and as an adult your have to live with it). -
Nov 30, 2017TheOnlyOne652089 posted a message on If You Can't Take Criticism of Jeremy Hambly, You're Part of the ProblemTheres critic and just phrasing opinions and as a form of entertainer and content provider he has a form of talking that a lot of people find offensive, but there is plenty of comedians i find offensive, but that doesnt make them in any way problematic.Posted in: Articles
Comments can easily be in bad taste and thats undeniable the case for Jeremy, but the real core of the issue to discuss is the small amount of truly idiotic people that take it to a true harassment and violent form of threats ; and the question to discuss would be if you as a content provider are truly responsible for what some sick individuals do , given they are adults, these people are the actual problem, and thats not Jeremy.
The same kind of sick individuals exist on the other spectrum too, some of them Social Justice Warriors that somehow feel Jeremy has to be "utterly destroyed" and death threats against him are "totally fine".
Seriously, its the same kind of sick individuals and its the CORE of a true problem which puts every little issue into full on overdrive roadkill.
It serves nobody and its a form of discussion that is very prevalent in the internet.
Its a culture of trolls and social justice warriors that simply cannot keep their actions behind a healthy line that keeps a minimum of civilized discourse alive.
If people get famous they undeniable have to have a tougher hide. The more people you know and the more people respond to you, the more bad comments you will accumulate.
Thats natural, and people will either like what you do or they will not.
Some of the sick people will downright hate you for whatever you do and this leads to the exact problem of people that think they have to act themselves , right now and fight what they think is the evil, everyone thinks they are in the right to do so and so nobody is able to self-reflect and see they are going over the top.
If matters settle down you could easily see Jeremy seeing himself that a bunch of stuff crosses the line , but bad taste comments and actual harassment should be dealt with in court and absolutely not in public for people to just judge and start their little lynch mobs in every corner burning whatever victim they just found.
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So there is more than just one problem.
A lot of problems and everyone is part of some problem, if they see it, know it, or still deny it. -
Nov 30, 2017TheOnlyOne652089 posted a message on If You Can't Take Criticism of Jeremy Hambly, You're Part of the ProblemTheres plenty of "good" men that started wars and killed people in the name of what they thought to be somehow the right thing.Posted in: Articles
The reality is, there are no "evil" and no "good" men, just opinions and people that push these ideology with violence over the other, who ever wins will be in the right, the other side clearly must have been wrong.
Its not the job of people to start a lynch mob and "destroy" other human beings and its downright pedantic to think that is in any way what "good men" should do.
Any problem has to be discussed and solved on the appropriate level.
Pushing topics in public only serves the trolls and media hype , people calling out for a single entity to be blamed for everything they think is bad.
The reality is, theres not a single bad person and everyone is usually to some degree responsible for what they do or do not do.
People really like to give small problems horrific names so they sound like much bigger problems, that leads only to despair and misery, it has no positive benefit for anybody, just pampers the ideology of people that really think they are the only legit form of judgment call, self-administered justice isnt the way to go and if you ever get in the situation to think someone is the personified evil, you are guaranteed wrong and simply ignore the other standpoint (so you become evil yourself, just to pretend to defend against evil, thats in no way a solution and only leads to a conflict in which everyone can blame anyone to be in the right and suddenly there are no good men left anymore).
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Nov 30, 2017TheOnlyOne652089 posted a message on If You Can't Take Criticism of Jeremy Hambly, You're Part of the ProblemA very big issue is that different topics are brought together, while they simply do not fit.Posted in: Articles
Nazi and troll posters are two very different things and should never be put together, just to fuel a cause, thats selling your own arguments cheap and makes them one-dimensional black/white thinking again, which is good for nobody.
Also, there will be critic and negative critic as well, that has to be acceptable.
Nobody is forced to be overly positive about anything.
If you truly dislike something you can say so, and its value to the discussion that this is expressed and not just ignored, or even outlawed as something terrible wrong.
At the same time its very valid to criticize something and not come up with a solution on your own right away. I can critic a cook and not be able to make it better, thats totally fine and it must be legit to do so. The point of critic is that you should never need to justify for it, the receiver can take the critic and see it as an issue, or they dont, thats their cup of tea and its what an adult has to learn to deal with.
But here again, this changes a lot if someone is in private or its brought up in public and presented to a mob of people.
If you just honestly dislike cosplay and say so, thats fair, nobody forces you to like anything.
The "locker-room-talk" is a topic entirely for its own. Its something that is widely accepted and always was. Women to the same about men, they even do it among each other, it might just be more subtle than the direct approach of actually saying it out loud, even if its just in the "locker-room" (or in this case a youtube channel, or a bunch of twitter posts).
Its fine on its own.
What really pushes the topic to become a real issue is how stuff completely gets lost and out of control incited to be way bigger than what it really is (and yes, thats a terrible huge deal with the amount of media and the very real interest of media to promote topics into "highlights" and further push the mob to generate more horrific events to report about, its almost a self proclaiming prophecy, so its very difficult to truly say what amount of discussion is healthy and what is just talking it to bits and pieces, as many if not all topics will be seemingly super hot for the moment and meaningless the next week, as there is no real issue beside the illusion of talk at all).
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How would an adult deal with bad talk about them in private ?
You confront the person and actually tell them to stop as its not ok for you.
Solves the issue, unless the person is actively not recognizing your problem.
In public it changes a lot.
Theres either somewhat anonymous people that jump on a topic train and pick sides, which very often leads to extreme reactions, way over the top (any threats via mail or any form of actual harm is absolutely no-go, no matter what the topic is, theres never a reason to choose violence to solve anything.
So if you talk in public, it will have an effect on people and it will polarize the people more and more. Thankfully lots of people can distinguish between a topic that truly effects them and just a rat catcher lynch mob , but some cant, and the poster shouldnt be responsible for these individuals, as almost anything could be seen as an incentive for violence, if the individual has some sick mind, theres an entirely different problem of its own (and yes, you have to ask yourselves why so many "troll" people exist and no matter the topic, they are harmful and actively ignore any productive discussion).
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For the topic at hand, the first problem that ignited this into a public *****-fest was that it was brought to public at all.
Solving these kinds of issues should have been a thing between Jeremy and Sprinkle , in private or by her actively telling what bothers her, its just fair to do so, as it solves most issues and avoids outside people to intervene.
If that doesnt work out and somebody is not taking your arguments, you can take it to the police and to court to actively stop what bothers you with something like a protective injunction suit, which again should solve the issue at hand, instead of putting it up for debate to a lynch mob that just wants blood, no matter from who.
Its a very clear picture if a topic is just instantly brought to public, avoiding any legal options (or doing so later, in hopes the public opinion boosts your side).
See, if a topic is discussed in public, it will never be fair.
People pick side right away and defend it for whatever the cost, even if it doesnt effect them personally at all ; which brings the Social Justice Warrior term to fruits.
Yes thats a problem just as trolls.
Its good to have empathy, but its bad to jam ideals and ideology into a topic and mix topics entirely, just to proof a point that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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Believe it or not, neither Jeremy nor Sprinkle are somehow "evil incarnate" , they arent and they arent "toxic" to the community.
The kind of topic and how much its media-hyped and exaggerated , thats an entire issue of its own and overshadows the problem they personally had to solve between each other and makes it like a community issue , which it isnt, the community is fine, theres very rare cases and problems to deal with and they shouldnt be ignored, but also not exaggerated into spheres they arent fit for.
And this is, about a game, a hobby, people enjoy playing the game and enjoy being part of a community, if this is taken to a level of social criticism it doesnt serve a purpose for the game it just harms the experience for everyone, as it puts a stigma to the game, that it neither deserves or justifies at all. - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
Sure hes right that you can not say if its "the best" green uncommun available ; but no question its a pretty strong card.
Flash is a pretty nasty thing in Green Limited ; just say Go flip Werewolfs and be ready for action.
How good a Hill Giant is (3/3) depends a lot on the set ; so here hes right ; but its not that this is the first big set with complete new cards ; we allready know that 3 power is quite a deal in this set with the amount of 3 thoughness around.
The trick also helps a lot against red burn, which we have plenty.
Overall solid card ; but "how" strong it is might vary slighty ; while unquestionable it is "strong" in Limited.
Would be obvisious good if all "forests" would simply have this ability.
Could really be an actual "forest" land with a Maze of Ith like ability.
Somehow i would like that way more ; especially as it would be way more playable aswell.
BW allready is stronger than green at tokens ; flying is the key.
Non-flying tokens are simply way worser.
Being white is quite something aswell with all the "Crusade" effects around.
Can easily see a deck that uses just tokens from Elspeth / Sorin and the token spells, pretty devastating if you get 3x 2/2 flyers or even 3/3 flyers.
And worst to worst, you have a lot of blockers.
As it is, all you need is a small amount of black for Sorin and flashback ; thats all ; would not aim to play anything with BB or worser ; Manabase in standard is that bad.
Ancient Grudge is enough to win against a fair amount of equipment based decks ; as they suck without Swords and the like.
And we have Steel-Aggro ; all i would say is Ancient Grudge is pretty much more reliable "usefull" than the 1 mana artifact.
The bad thing about a hate card is that you most certainly wont have it maindeck.
So if we play a match and i have 60:40 against you, and with the hate you have 60:40 ; well its a fair deal.
The hate card isnt that deadly as you make it ; if your deck is unable to deal with a 1 mana artifact AND shut down by it ; then thats allready a mistake in your deck construction.
Looking at the UB Lich decks, its allmost sure they will pack either green or red in addition ; and if worst comes to worst ; you play Tezzeret on your own to animate the artifact just to kill it with creature destruction.
Otherwise you can play transformation sideboard ; get rid of the combo ; and play a simpel UB Controll after sideboard.
Overall the big point is if a MetaGame actual "needs" the hate ; better pack hate against Steel-Aggro and Mono-Red ; why hate a deck just 1 person under 100 plays ?
Well most of them are from the short past of magic ; so its very likely we will get more.
I will for sure get 4 of these.
Its the kind of card that a long time incredible cheap, then jumps up if the cards get released its supposed to work with.
Amulet of Vigor was the same ; ridiculous amount of cash price.
Well the 5 power is a big lay down if you want to force against titan size (6/6).
Overall the Undying mechanic looks way better on cheap creatures then on fatties ; with the late game your opponent is likely to have "something" to keep your creature in check permanently ; early on, against your wave of attackers ; the only real answer is mass removal ; which is super bad against Undying.
So while a pretty brutal card on itself ; its a mechanic thats best on cheap creatures.
The best standard "Money wise" was around with Madness / Elves and stuff like that.
Tons of com/uncom , manabases were cheap aswell.
Today they nearly print no good creature that is not rare / mythic ; planeswalkers are "forced" to mythic and nearly allways good and fatties tend to be rare/mythic aswell.
Standard overall is pretty expensive ; at least if you keep playing it and rotate with formats (which can mean you make profit if you are lucky ; or you lose money if your cards get way cheaper).
In my area its likely that someone will get an Legacy deck sooner than a Standard one ; simply because the Legacy cards keep value or get more expensive ; nearly never lose value (and a bunch of the good cards are All-stars for any format anyway).
For tournaments we give away expensive single cards ; no booster packs ; so all that might make the cut.
But Boosters are expensive in Germany, compared to US , Standard might be way "cheaper" format.
I mean , can i make like 20 intentioanl draws, just because we "calculated" it gives an edge ?
No idea if it does, it just got me a bad feeling to think about it the next time someone gives a result like:
Win 2: Lose 0: Draw 55
Triskelion combo :
Triskelion 1/1 + 3x +1/+1 ; gets +1/+1 from him ; use the +1/+1 counters to shoot 2 times at Triskelion itself and 1 at your opponent.
Repeat with an extra +1/+1 counter as much as you like.
Also works with Persist i assume ; but less combo like (as you need an extra sacrifice).
So what ever he is ; EDH makes it a combo card, if he finds a way for Standard is questionable ; but i would not count him out.
I buy all i can get for ~2$ thats for sure.
A reusable mind control is allready strong ; give it hexproof and its just an totally unfun card ; as it takes over games and evolves games totally around it.
Its not that everyone plays a ton of mass removal ; just control has a real mass removal ; anyone else does not play any.
For aggro its pretty much impossible to win against a reusable mind control if its going for you.
Thats what Vedalken Shackles was ; and its horrible to play against it if you can not attack without running in your own creatures.
Having a large amount of creatures isnt even that difficult taking the high amount of token generators in the set especially in white.
So yes, the card is allready a bomb to no end in limited, its obvisious worse than Olivia, but pretty powerfull if a blue deck has such strong removal at hand.
However, cards like that are "forbidden" to have hexproof ; it totally kills the card balance to give hexproof on just about anything.
All that said, its a Rare that does its job ; and its no secret that the "real" good cards are simply too cheap compared to effects that are otherwise comparable, this is not such a card.
You simply cast the card, really not complicated.
The card is strong enough to be a player in Standard ; Spellskite is actual what makes this tick, together with Snapcaster and all the insane stuff.
Well just imagine, you play Solarflare ; a more creature heavy solar flare ; with a bunch of removal for your snapcaster.
You survive by Reinforcements and Snapcaster / Go for the Throat and Spellskite ; then pop the lich.
Whatever your opponent does, you can play your creatures from your grave, namely Snapcaster and reuse Reinforcements and all your removal ; while keeping and endless stream of Spellskites.
Annoying enough that a lich can help you to get "another" lich from your graveyard, they are actual "undead" no matter what.
If a controll deck has the lich and untaps, its a world of pain for everyone and the amount of card advantage will bury any opponent.
Sounds overall promising, requires interaction with your deck ; its not a Titan that simply works.
If i have the choice of a 2RB vampire, Olivia is plain better.
If this would at least cost 1RB, that would be quite a beating.
Decks that play Elspeth will at least consider using Sorin, if it makes sence to play black.
In Legacy a Stoneforge mythic deck might have a viable reason to run Sorin together with Elspeth, you have to remove blue for black ; might not be a bad idea to use Dark Confidant / Vindicate with Discard instead of Force of Will.
In a 1on1 fight Elspeth and Sorin win against Jace, and they proof to be better against beatdown.
So all makes sence, its totally possible to run black/white/green instead of blue/white/green ; but it depends a lot on your metagame what is better.
In direct comparision to Elspeth its not clear which one is better, both make a pretty similiar job (while ironically Elspeth will kill Sorin, just because of the +3/+3 flying).
If the Anthemn would be +1/+1 i would jump on the train ; but a +1/+0 feels kind of random.
Most creatures get a lot better with "undying".
Just imagine Snapcaster with Undying ; yea why not, piss on magics power creep.
Overall i think with this kind of stuff a green / blue self mill deck might become viable for standard, as we have the GG 2/1 Undying and this guy to make it slighty more resilent.
Currently its just a question if the deck might run better with black for spider spawning and the like ; or red for the study effects.
But this seems at least to be a card that is quite usefull as a creature, i just get 4 and be happy.
Good idea, might do the same ^^