Quote from Onering »Nobody is calling for her to be oppressed by the government for her idiotic beliefs. Wizards has determined that her promotion of such radical ideology does not give with the image they want to project. Wizards customers have determined that they do not want to support such a toxic ideology.
America is a free country, you can say whatever you want, and that means that people can crap on you for saying it. Free speech doesn't mean saying whatever you want without being judged for it.
If you say stupid crap, people will think you're stupid, and it's your fault for providing them with the evidence.
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don't be a ***** person, uphold their values, and they'll keep purchasing your art. its that simple. there isn't an employer out there who doesn't have a values system it expects the people associated with it to follow.
this is what accountability looks like. this is what you want in a society of laws, reason, and equality. there has to be standards for behavior.
Quote from Onering »I love the logic of some people
"Anti semitism isn't evil, it's just an opinion you should respect. Not wanting to pay for art by anti semites is evil, only insane people would think that way!"
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It should have been rare to begin with honestly.
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Serious question, what is it with single prices in the US? I just clicked on Exquisite Blood it shows an average price of 44$, like a serious tournament staple like Karn, Liberated, however, if you check European sites you can find it for 12-15€ on average, and it was just around 22€ at its highest... I think you guys are getting ripped off by unscrupulous sites, really.
Quote from Xcric »i feel like you're focusing entirely too much on just the art. its about the entire card. you have to take all of it into consideration. stone throwing devils for instance. the art is just some devils throwing rocks. that's fine, nothing so bad about that. when you tack on the name, which is a racial slur, the art becomes irrelevant there. invoke is a perfect storm of name, art, mechanic, and artists views. crusade, jihad, imprison, cleanse also have to incorporate the art with the name, and the mechanics. we can't pick and choose the aspects of a card that we don't find racist and say the entire thing is or isn't. if those elements all come together it can and does change how its perceived by others. it can be about the whole as much as it can be about just one aspect.
regardless, i would ask; why are you comfortable with these cards being a part of the game if someone can walk up to a table and interpret them as racist at all?
why do you want to be associated with that?
if more than a few people feel that way about them (and a large number of players do as these have existed for years, and has been discussed for years) why are you comfortable with them being offended at all?
pressure doesn't just come from without either.
wotc is a company run by people. their feelings and views will be reflected in the end product. its not just about public pressure, there was surely a lot of internal pressure as well. shouldn't it be okay to act on something deemed racist if the public is for acting, and the internal team members are too?
isn't it better to make the game more approachable, to expand the audience, rather than let it shrink?
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There's a thing that exists: black people as a group. Groups exist.
The existence of groups does not diminish the individuals that comprise them, but makes them be the individuals that they are in their full, concrete existence. You can't solve everything just by treating the individual situation; you must treat the causes, not the symptoms.
That's a funny thing to think, given the statistics of those crimes.
So you think the banned cards aren't actually racist. Alright, I have a challenge for you. Define for me something that would actually be racist.