seems like a lot of venders have sold out (apparently) or have shot up in price with low quantities remaining. sold prices on ebay have been hitting $280+ consistently over the past few days/week or so (from $250-260 prior). could it be that the amount left on the market is actually very low, or are people/venders hording/storing them in order for it to appear this way? it's apparent that modern has become more and more popular over the past several months (really since it was announce as a format) and almost every modern staple has risen in price substantially. not that i am concerned with the boxes being sold out everywhere, but i really wonder how high they will go (in the short term) and if they do sell out everywhere, what does this mean for the prices of the singles in the set? (like goyf, bob, v.clique, cryptic, etc. which have already been rising steadily)
i collect all types of promos, in my collection binders i also have foil zen lands, foil and regular unhinged lands, unglued lands, 5 of each revised dual (also use these in my edh decks), shocklands (about 12 or so of each, and a few foils), snapcasters, deathrites, random cool stuff like library, juzam, etc. also have a binder of just mythics, nearly have 1 of each. oh and i also collect tokens
liliana of the dark realms was underwhelming in my cube, which is designed for multiplayer. she would usually grab a swamp or 2 and that's it. well, one time she used her -x/-x ability and that was ok LOL but i took her out after people stopped playing her. however, i really like her in standard
i'm concerned as a collector and player what wotc and hasbro has done to the game the last couple of years.
reprinting cards in modern masters has hurt nearly every card's value except for tarmogoyf and dark confidant. wotc plans to reprint pretty much every playable card in the format in the next few years, either in more modern masters sets, regular sets, or special sets like duel decks, commander decks, ftv, etc.
now they are printing tons of very limited and exclusive cards, which on one hand is fun and exciting, but on the other hand very expensive. wotc doesn't even make that much money by selling their sdcc black planeswalker sets for $60 each when they could sell them for $500 apiece and people would gobble them up. ftv 20 could be $250 retail and they'd sell out just as fast.
as a collector and having a lot of old cards, i'm afraid of holding onto them in fear of them being reprinted and dropping from hundreds of dollars to $10-20. i feel like they are forcing me to only spend money on cards i wish to play with, not invest in.
p.s. i recently purchased the sdcc black planeswalker set on ebay and i love it, i would buy another one if they weren't so dang expensive. highly recommended!
50/53 rares spoiled so far by my count.. no thoughtseize or noble hierarch yet (I thought they'd be mythic rare, but considering cryptic command is rare, these might be too if they are part of the final 3, or perhaps not in the set?) also, surprised that there are no filter land from shadowmoor. I guess they wanted to keep some of the chase cards out of the set for value/collectors of the originals? Having the 5 dragons from kamigawa as mythic is the only thing disappointing for me (so far) in the set.
i split a case with a friend and one VoR was opened (we got 3 Ral's though). at the prerelease, one guy opened 2 VoR in his 4 DGM packs (from the prerelease pack) and another guy got 2 Ral's in his.
Seems like it was about a year ago my LGS owner was telling me about a contest WotC was doing- people could design a playmat, submit it, and the winner's would be printed and sold. I never heard anything about it since then, so did this happen? (and was there a winner?)
Thanks!
Peter
i think it's fake- there have already been 10 mythics spoiled so there wouldn't be an 11th.. then the fact of only 9 rares when the shock doesn't count as one of the 9 from packs, then the c/uc's not spoiled, and the booklet showing all the cards means everything would be spoiled.. 'nuff said.
^yea I'm pretty sure I've seen it before.. Bigups cuts up foils and pastes them onto cards like this for alters, then fills in around it with paint. You can see that the pile of skulls is from a foil card.. I am hoping someone recognizes it! I guess I could try messaging Bigup and asking him but I didn't know it would be this difficult to figure out
I originally built my cube about 5 years ago, based on other cube lists. Another player in our group also made a cube (720 cards) and plays almost exclusively single player tournaments with it. My cube has been use primarily for multiplayer, so it has evolved to reflect this.
Beyond the card choices, I feel that a lot of you will benefit the most from our variety of games and rules that we use for mutiplayer.
Mutiplayer formats
Sheriff
5 player format- there are 5 roles: Sheriff (revealed and starts game with 30 life), Depute (hidden, protects sheriff), 2 Outlaws (hidden, goal is to defeat sheriff), and Renegade (hidden, goal is to be last standing).
The main issue with sheriff is that the Renegade's best strategy is to pretend to be an outlaw and it becomes 3 vs 2, with the sheriff dying early and the outlaws and renegade not knowing who is who; which is ok, if you want this result.
Star
5, 6, or 7 players. Most commonly played with 5, the star represents the 5 colors of magic, with each player assigned a random color (for seating purposes only). Sit in the pattern of each color (as indicated on the back of a magic card). A player wins by eliminating the 2 opposite colors (across the table from him), and has two 1/2 allies (sitting next to him). It is the most balanced mutiplayer format, but gets boring after awhile. For 6 player, to win, a player must eliminate the 3 players across from him. In 7 player, a player must eliminate the 2 players farthest from him
Emperor
6 player format, two teams of 3 players each. Each team determines an emperor and 2 guards. The emperor sits in the middle of his 2 guards. A player may only attack the player next to him and each player has a range of 2 for targetting spells. Universal spells affect all players (such as Wrath of God). A player may "march" any of his creatures to a friendly player next to him; the creature must be able to attack to march (ie. not have summoning sickness), and arrives to the friendly player untapped, but suffers summoning sickness on the first turn of that player's control. This is because it is very unbalanced for the emperor to build up an army, march it to the left, then have that player attack with all the creature son his turn. The game ends when one emperor dies.
2v2
Instead of 2 headed giant (where players share turns), we alternate players on each team so each player as a separate turn. After we draft, each player can swap up to 3 cards from his pool with his teammate for constructing decks.
2v2+1
This is kind of like 2v2 and sheriff. There are 2 revealed players (like a red team and a blue team), where each one has a face down teammate. The 5th player (renegade), also facedown, has the win condition of remaining alive with 1, and only 1 face up player (the face up player automatically loses if he is left with the renegade). This creates a scenario where the renegade wants to kill both face down players and 1 face up player, while keeping 1 face up player alive (usually pretends to be that player's helper). The 2 face up players will try to kill all the face down players first to stop this from happening, while the 2 face down teammates try to kill the other face down players as well. When a face down player is defeated, he reveals his role to everyone.
The Cube
Stats
475 cards
60 each color, 60 guild (6 each), 67 artifact/colorless, 48 land
drafted twice a week
4-6 players per pool, 4 packs of 11 cards each
most common archetypes:
Gruul and Boros aggro
Dimir and Azorius control
notable cards:
black-
corpse dance- this card is amazing to hold all game because of the buyback. you can use it to get creatures back from the grave for offense or defense, especially to chump block or if you have a sac outlet so you can keep bringing the same one back.
red-
word of seizing- this card does so much- it can snag a planeswalker to use the (-) ability (sometimes killing itself, or going ultimate), or grab a creature in combat to block with (or just to stop an attacking creature), or if your ally's planeswalker is being attacked, you can steal the planeswalker to get it out of combat.
blue-
reins of power- you can use it as a fog during combat, to save yourself or your ally. best in a control deck where you have no creatures, you can just steal all of someone's for a turn to attack, sac, etc.
artifact-
candelabra of tawnos- untap your ally's lands to allow them to cast something big and scary early on. if your opponent doesn't destroy this artifact right away, the game can get out of control.
you can purchase them directly from me (I make them). I mostly do contracted work from Namco Bandai for their Dark Souls game(s) as well as figure lines from them for the public. I have a Tamiyo bust also available and I plan to do 2-3 new planeswalker busts each year.
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reprinting cards in modern masters has hurt nearly every card's value except for tarmogoyf and dark confidant. wotc plans to reprint pretty much every playable card in the format in the next few years, either in more modern masters sets, regular sets, or special sets like duel decks, commander decks, ftv, etc.
now they are printing tons of very limited and exclusive cards, which on one hand is fun and exciting, but on the other hand very expensive. wotc doesn't even make that much money by selling their sdcc black planeswalker sets for $60 each when they could sell them for $500 apiece and people would gobble them up. ftv 20 could be $250 retail and they'd sell out just as fast.
as a collector and having a lot of old cards, i'm afraid of holding onto them in fear of them being reprinted and dropping from hundreds of dollars to $10-20. i feel like they are forcing me to only spend money on cards i wish to play with, not invest in.
p.s. i recently purchased the sdcc black planeswalker set on ebay and i love it, i would buy another one if they weren't so dang expensive. highly recommended!
nothing about this set makes sense..
Thanks!
Peter
it's from Bigup's alter on tarmogoyf, but what is it originally from?
thanks in advance!
Beyond the card choices, I feel that a lot of you will benefit the most from our variety of games and rules that we use for mutiplayer.
Mutiplayer formats
Sheriff
5 player format- there are 5 roles: Sheriff (revealed and starts game with 30 life), Depute (hidden, protects sheriff), 2 Outlaws (hidden, goal is to defeat sheriff), and Renegade (hidden, goal is to be last standing).
The main issue with sheriff is that the Renegade's best strategy is to pretend to be an outlaw and it becomes 3 vs 2, with the sheriff dying early and the outlaws and renegade not knowing who is who; which is ok, if you want this result.
5, 6, or 7 players. Most commonly played with 5, the star represents the 5 colors of magic, with each player assigned a random color (for seating purposes only). Sit in the pattern of each color (as indicated on the back of a magic card). A player wins by eliminating the 2 opposite colors (across the table from him), and has two 1/2 allies (sitting next to him). It is the most balanced mutiplayer format, but gets boring after awhile. For 6 player, to win, a player must eliminate the 3 players across from him. In 7 player, a player must eliminate the 2 players farthest from him
Emperor
6 player format, two teams of 3 players each. Each team determines an emperor and 2 guards. The emperor sits in the middle of his 2 guards. A player may only attack the player next to him and each player has a range of 2 for targetting spells. Universal spells affect all players (such as Wrath of God). A player may "march" any of his creatures to a friendly player next to him; the creature must be able to attack to march (ie. not have summoning sickness), and arrives to the friendly player untapped, but suffers summoning sickness on the first turn of that player's control. This is because it is very unbalanced for the emperor to build up an army, march it to the left, then have that player attack with all the creature son his turn. The game ends when one emperor dies.
2v2
Instead of 2 headed giant (where players share turns), we alternate players on each team so each player as a separate turn. After we draft, each player can swap up to 3 cards from his pool with his teammate for constructing decks.
2v2+1
This is kind of like 2v2 and sheriff. There are 2 revealed players (like a red team and a blue team), where each one has a face down teammate. The 5th player (renegade), also facedown, has the win condition of remaining alive with 1, and only 1 face up player (the face up player automatically loses if he is left with the renegade). This creates a scenario where the renegade wants to kill both face down players and 1 face up player, while keeping 1 face up player alive (usually pretends to be that player's helper). The 2 face up players will try to kill all the face down players first to stop this from happening, while the 2 face down teammates try to kill the other face down players as well. When a face down player is defeated, he reveals his role to everyone.
The Cube
Stats
475 cards
60 each color, 60 guild (6 each), 67 artifact/colorless, 48 land
drafted twice a week
4-6 players per pool, 4 packs of 11 cards each
most common archetypes:
Gruul and Boros aggro
Dimir and Azorius control
notable cards:
black-
corpse dance- this card is amazing to hold all game because of the buyback. you can use it to get creatures back from the grave for offense or defense, especially to chump block or if you have a sac outlet so you can keep bringing the same one back.
red-
word of seizing- this card does so much- it can snag a planeswalker to use the (-) ability (sometimes killing itself, or going ultimate), or grab a creature in combat to block with (or just to stop an attacking creature), or if your ally's planeswalker is being attacked, you can steal the planeswalker to get it out of combat.
blue-
reins of power- you can use it as a fog during combat, to save yourself or your ally. best in a control deck where you have no creatures, you can just steal all of someone's for a turn to attack, sac, etc.
artifact-
candelabra of tawnos- untap your ally's lands to allow them to cast something big and scary early on. if your opponent doesn't destroy this artifact right away, the game can get out of control.
Black
Blue
Green
Red
White
Guilds
Artifacts/Colorless
Land
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