MTG Salvation

Feldon never worked well for us. Sin Prodder is also a redundant low tier aggro in a stacked slot. Most decks actively look for at least one effect like Revelers, so it’s a great choice in a larger Cube, although I recognize smaller Cubes already fill that need.


For that reason, this is my ranking with a large separation between Revelers and Feldon. I could see Phoenix becoming better than Warboss, but we don’t have enough experience to make that call yet.

Warboss > Phoenix > Revelers >> Feldon > Prodder

Who still runs Greenseeker?


It dominated its limited format which likely caused many to give it a spin. It’s currently in our list and has only been OK. Looking for a refresh prior to a Cube event next weekend, and it’s on the chopping block.

When can we expect Cube Tutor to add the new set?


Another question - have people shifted to using other tools, or is Cube Tutor still the go-to?

Quote from TheRealEbase131 »

Very strange to me that a card that basically plays as a 2/1 unblockable (certainly better evasion than simply flying) is viewed as outclassed. Especially when you consider all the free equipment pounding this thing unleashes on a helpless opponent.

For us, the question answers itself. An unblcokable 2-power creature for 1B was perfect for my 720 Cube when I built it in 2010, but it isn’t even close in 2020. In the new set we even got a 2/1 flyer for 1B that can block and has an upside ability that will happen once in a blue moon. No one is talking about Cubing that card.

I remember when our group realized that all the shadow guys were outdated which caused a pretty big shift in our Cube design. I want to say that was something like 4 years ago.

Who still runs this gentleman?


As we explore ramping up support for aristocrats (sacrifice) theme in Mardu, this guy came back on our radar.

I posted this in the Blood Artist thread - I changed my mind on this card. We’ll give it a shot and see what happens. I hate that black is so stacked at 3cc though...

We’re going to add Blood Artist plus Zulaport in the THB update. It also gives the extra boost to give Woe Strider a shot and consider some other cards on the cusp, specifically looking at Mogg War Marshal...

Does anyone play Cruel Celebrant to support this archetype?


Also, has anyone run Butcher of the Horde? It’s an incredible payoff if your manabase is good.

I want to like this... It just seems so filler-y to me. Escape 4 also feels like one too many to bring it back on curve. Slight miss...

Our banlist includes the following cards:
Moxen
Lotus
Sol Ring
Mana Crypt
Mana Vault
Ancestral
And just added this year... Library

We had Library in for a while because it isn’t great in or against aggro, but what eventually put it on the banned list was that there were no other cards in the Cube that should be P1P1 over it. In our current list we feel that there is no clear #1 p1p1 in the 720.

Somewhat related - Time Walk is overrated. It’s a top 10 card in our 720 but nowhere near the power level of the cards on our banned list.

I can see how smaller Cubes got almost nothing out of this set, but 720 is happy with the haul.


Here are my changes:


White
+Elspeth, Sun’s Nemesis
+Shatter the Sky
-Timely Reinforcements
-Conclave Tribunal

Blue
+Nadir Kraken
+Thassa’s Intervention
-Flash
-Disallow

Black
+Nightmare Shepherd
-Night’s Whisper

Red
+Irreverent Revelers
+Phoenix of Ash
+Purphoros’s Intervention
+Storm’s Wrath
-Robber of the Rich
-Manic Vandal
-Seasoned Pyromancer
-Glorybringer

Green
+Dryad of the Ilysian Grove
-Manglehorn

We have a couple Humans matter cards, but this is still great. Replacing Vandal.

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I'm considering this over Gideon of the Trials and then cutting Supreme Verdict for something more interesting, like Reflector Mage, Sphinx's Revelation, or Dream Trawler. Thoughts on that plan?

Cheers,
rant

I like Gideon of the Trials, but I do like the idea of adding this Wrath as a way to remove Supreme Verdict from a stacked guild with other great options.

I wish this did slightly more... I can’t think of any one thing that would have made this card Cubeable for me, but as it stands I think it’s a bit underpowered.

Like I was suggesting with my question regarding Fumigate, I don’t think this card is only worth considering under the premise of wanting another wrath. A lot of Cubes play Fumigate, and this may be an upgrade over it.