OK, here are my suggestions after actually reviewing your list. Sorry for the snark earlier. A lot of the things I'm suggesting you take out are things that have been cut from my Tolsimir deck, and things we've pruned out of my buddy's Trostani deck. Alot of them are very good cards, but they just don't pull their weight in comparison to the things I've suggested as replacements. A few of my suggestions are meta dependant, but they should up your win rate and interactivity. I hope this helps, let me know what you think, please!
-Expedition Map. You are in green, have some pride man.
-Selesnya Cluestone. The keyrune is better
-Keeper of Progenitus. You don't want to hug.
-Scion of Vitu-Ghazi. You have better tokenators. This one is superfluous and doesn't quite pull its weight.
-Verdant Haven. This makes you a target for lando, for one thing, and it doesn't pull enough weight to earn a slot, IMO.
-Trostani's Judgment. Too expensive for what it does.
-Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage. Abilities are massively overcosted. I'd be surprised if you ever got to activate them.
-Genesis Wave. Too many instants/sorceries to be a blowout, too many low-costed things. In most decks, this is a win-con. I don't see it getting there with this list.
+Collective Unconscious. Card draw wins games
+Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant. He. Is. A. Boss. I have never once regretted drawing him in any of my white decks.
+Mentor of the Meek. MOAR CARD DRAW. He was made for tokenators.
+Sylvan Library. Card Draw, Topdeck Manipulation. 'Nuff said.
+Terminus. It's a staple for a reason.
+Aura Shards. You are a tokenator. This will run the goddamn board. It's a "may", so you don't even have a drawback. Auto-in.
+Ashnod's Altar. Tokens = Mana. This **** is mananas. M-A-N-A-N-A-S.
+Martyr's Bond. This + Altar = boardwipe at will.
+Regal Force. Refill that hand, bro.
+Akroma's Memorial. Get there.
These are some very good suggestions. A few of those cuts were proven to be bad last in some of my games. Got blown out yesterday byCrucibleMine with my own verdant haven out.
I'm also trying out the mentor in my online list and I've not had too much luck,(Collective Blessing was out both games lol) but he seems good. I also forgot how much I love Martyr's Bond and fetches.
I'll make these changes and see how it goes. I do want to make Emmara good just to make my opponents say how good she is. haha
This would be a very interesting direction to take a token deck in and would make Emmara a uniquely good choice. I would love to see this build. Are there any more effects like this in GW?
So the cluestone is just better than the talisman because there is quite a bit of lifegain already.
Voice and Rhys should be self explanatory. And I'm taking out the Soul of the Harvest because of the nontoken clause. And I'm kind of light on actual creatures.
I will be putting Rhys in here. There are a couple of cards that aren't doing it for me.
In my playgroup, they have been telling me that too. Play Trostani or Rhys. I'm just showing Emmara some love. First time I played the deck, I enjoyed her. Particularly, the sad expression on my opponent's face as he looks at his Balederp Dragon.
Great suggestions so far. Thanks. I'll be updating the deck soon.
So the idea of the deck is to control the board with tokens. And with Emmara out, your tokens make a pretty good wall. So you just sit behind them and amass your forces until you can overwhelm your opponents.
@foo_intherain: Your decklist has "3 Batterskull" and "1 Batterskull". Anyways, the list looks awesome. Have you tried the swords? I think they would add a great deal of control.
Went 4-0-1 in the midnight sealed, and won off tiebreaks. I love playing midnight sealed events. I was making some pretty bad mistakes in the last match. Like attacking with Chapel Geist into another Chapel Geist with Silver-Inlaid Dagger. Ha
I played GW Humans with Angelic Overseer. She hardly ever died. Once was when all my green lycanthropes flipped and she became a victim of the night :embarrass:.
Mirrodin and the new mirrodin block should include parts of this, creatures with type "artificer" come to my mind.
I was thinking the same thing. The two mirrodin sets have that feel. Even with Phyrexian cards. And Jin Gitaxias, Core Augur exemplifies a mad scientist himself.
Along the lines of Elemental Mastery and Presence of Gond, I've been searching for a while now trying to find a blue or black version. Combos with this guy are harder to find than people think (at least one card combos anyway). Manriki Gusari, Paradise Mantle and banishing knack are, so far, the closest I've gotten to finding that kind of synergy.
Eldrazi Monument: One of those will be finding its way in here. Coat of Arms however has a really bad habit of backfiring but if I can find room I'll give it a shot.
If this deck works out the way I want it to I don't think I'll usually need cards like Second Wind or Thousand Year Elixir, but they are still very good cards for him. So I'll consider them.
At first when I thought about Rooftop Storm, I didn't think I had enough zombies to make it work. But I soon realized that my generals curve becomes 0, 2, 4 etc. My inner Vorthos says "play this".
EDIT@Ted Elderhi: My friend and I have found that Pact of Negation is pretty close to what Force does. And it doesn't put you behind in cards. We both used to own Fow's as well. We just didn't find it as good in EDH as it is in Legacy.
These are some very good suggestions. A few of those cuts were proven to be bad last in some of my games. Got blown out yesterday byCrucible Mine with my own verdant haven out.
I'm also trying out the mentor in my online list and I've not had too much luck,(Collective Blessing was out both games lol) but he seems good. I also forgot how much I love Martyr's Bond and fetches.
I'll make these changes and see how it goes. I do want to make Emmara good just to make my opponents say how good she is. haha
So I found Cyclone and Wave of Reckoning (doesn't kill Emmara either, lol). I also found that I should probably play Master of the Wild Hunt.
- Pristine Talisman
- Giant Adephage
- Fresh Meat
- Soul of the Harvest
+ Selesnya Cluestone
+ Voice of Resurgence
+ Lightmine Field
+ Rhys the Redeemed
So the cluestone is just better than the talisman because there is quite a bit of lifegain already.
Voice and Rhys should be self explanatory. And I'm taking out the Soul of the Harvest because of the nontoken clause. And I'm kind of light on actual creatures.
Lightmine Field is Hilarious.
In my playgroup, they have been telling me that too. Play Trostani or Rhys. I'm just showing Emmara some love. First time I played the deck, I enjoyed her. Particularly, the sad expression on my opponent's face as he looks at his Balederp Dragon.
Great suggestions so far. Thanks. I'll be updating the deck soon.
Thanks
1x Emmara Tandris
Artifacts
1x Darksteel Ingot
1x Expedition Map
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Loxodon Warhammer
1x Mimic Vat
1x Mind's Eye
1x Selesnya Cluestone
1x Selesnya Signet
1x Skullclamp
1x Sol Ring
1x Staff of Nin
Creatures
1x Academy Rector
1x Acidic Slime
1x Ant Queen
1x Archon of Justice
1x Armada Wurm
1x Geist-Honored Monk
1x Keeper of Progenitus
1x Mitotic Slime
1x Nacatl War-Pride
1x Qasali Pridemage
1x Rhys the Redeemed
1x Scion of Vitu-Ghazi
1x Solemn Simulacrum
1x Sylvan Primordial
1x Thopter Assembly
1x Tolsimir Wolfblood
1x Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
1x Trostani's Summoner
1x Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage
1x Voice of Resurgence
1x Wayfaring Temple
1x Awakening Zone
1x Collective Blessing
1x Doubling Season
1x Growing Ranks
1x Intangible Virtue
1x Lightmine Field
1x Luminarch Ascension
1x Parallel Lives
1x Seance
1x Verdant Haven
Instants/Sorceries
1x Alive/Well
1x Austere Command
1x Condemn
1x Cultivate
1x Entreat the Angels
1x Explore
1x Explosive Vegetation
1x Farseek
1x Genesis Wave
1x Hallowed Burial
1x Horncaller's Chant
1x Idyllic Tutor
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Martial Coup
1x Momentous Fall
1x Path to Exile
1x Praetor's Counsel
1x Return to Dust
1x Rootborn Defenses
1x Selesnya Charm
1x Sundering Growth
1x Trostani's Judgment
1x Garruk, Primal Hunter
Lands
1x Arctic Flats
1x Command Tower
1x Gavony Township
1x Graypelt Refuge
1x Grove of the Gaurdian
1x Razorverge Thicket
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Savannah
1x Secluded Steppe
1x Selesnya Guildgate
1x Selesnya Sanctuary
1x Stirring Wildwood
1x Strip Mine
1x Temple Garden
1x Vesuva
1x Vivid Meadow
5x Forest
13x Plains
So the idea of the deck is to control the board with tokens. And with Emmara out, your tokens make a pretty good wall. So you just sit behind them and amass your forces until you can overwhelm your opponents.
Let me know what you think. Thanks.
He doesn't really need undying though. He's brutal either way.
me: "Vexing Devil."
opp: "I'll take 4"
me: "In response, Undying Evil."
There's not a lot scarier than a Sad Robot carrying War and Peace.
I played GW Humans with Angelic Overseer. She hardly ever died. Once was when all my green lycanthropes flipped and she became a victim of the night :embarrass:.
Also added Unbreathing Horde. Just because its awesome.
Also forgot Urborg and Coffers. My bad.
Edit: Just so there's no confusion, Cellar Door and Unbreathing Horde are in the visual spoiler of Innistrad.
Oh and Thornbite Staff is just awesome. By itself it gives kiki another tap. With A sac outlet (Ashnod's Altar) its infinite.
And yes. Blasphemous Act will be your best friend.
I was thinking the same thing. The two mirrodin sets have that feel. Even with Phyrexian cards. And Jin Gitaxias, Core Augur exemplifies a mad scientist himself.
Along the lines of Elemental Mastery and Presence of Gond, I've been searching for a while now trying to find a blue or black version. Combos with this guy are harder to find than people think (at least one card combos anyway). Manriki Gusari, Paradise Mantle and banishing knack are, so far, the closest I've gotten to finding that kind of synergy.
Eldrazi Monument: One of those will be finding its way in here. Coat of Arms however has a really bad habit of backfiring but if I can find room I'll give it a shot.
If this deck works out the way I want it to I don't think I'll usually need cards like Second Wind or Thousand Year Elixir, but they are still very good cards for him. So I'll consider them.
At first when I thought about Rooftop Storm, I didn't think I had enough zombies to make it work. But I soon realized that my generals curve becomes 0, 2, 4 etc. My inner Vorthos says "play this".
I'm also trying to find room for Puppeteer Clique and Glen-Elendra Archmage. Go Persist!
EDIT@Ted Elderhi: My friend and I have found that Pact of Negation is pretty close to what Force does. And it doesn't put you behind in cards. We both used to own Fow's as well. We just didn't find it as good in EDH as it is in Legacy.