There are only 2 eternal formats, legacy and vintage. Modern is a constructed format on WotC's own page, and frontier would be as well. You start at magic origins because fetches are AIDS and it seems heavily likely that fetches will never be standard legal again. Fetches are the most powerful cards they have printed since power 9 and company hands down with what they have enabled over their tenure. Not to mention let's keep the delve cards out; the larger the card pool, the better delve cards get. DTT and cruise don't need to grace any format other than vintage ever again.
Extended was tried. It really was a great format until they started rotating it, then it started to die slowly after that. It would be the same now. It would be played only when people needed to play it to try to make it to the pro tour and that's it. That's horrible. It would be only worse now with the way that design and development has made the game.
People do not make a living on collecting. People are NOT smart. Prices are already dropping before the reprint has even hit the market. If zendikar fetches were still the only modern legal fetches I would agree, but they're not; we have tons of allied fetches to drive down the price on the enemy fetches. Here's where you're wrong in your calculations. Demand has to increase substantially in order for the supply that is being introduced to the market to not lower the price. Tarmogoyf, multiformat staple, drops every time it gets reprinted and that's at mythic rare. These are normal rares, there are 5 of them, and they are going to be opened far more because of that. The price is going to drop, end of story.
People are treating this as though there aren't already lots and lots of zendikar fetches out there. There are a massive amount of zendikar fetches out there in the hands of players, THAT is why fetches will drop substantially seeing a reprint at rare. Noble hierarch is a *****TY example to base things off of when the first print run was in conflux, a massively underprinted set that allowed hierarch, when it became a hot commodity, to reach $70 for a manadork that can attack for 1 and win goyf wars. I cited wasteland because it's a VERY high demand land in regards to legacy and it dropped substantially. If no one had enemy fetches you guys would be right, but there are already tons out there because zendikar sold incredibly well. This is just inflating the supply on a card that a lot of people already have copies of. It WILL drop a lot.
Yeah people don't realize that fetches aren't coming to standard/there's no demand being created for them there, which is a huge demand because fetches are fetches. These fetches are just for basically the modern playerbase, kind of legacy though basically everyone into legacy has the fetches they want, and EDH. They should see a substantial drop similar to wasteland.
People getting into legacy aren't being priced out by fetches, they are priced out by dual lands. Legacy playerbase isn't really growing, so no, BUG and other such decks shouldn't be creating that big of a demand for misty rainforest. Wasteland is played a lot more in legacy and see where the reprint brought the price to.
Why would misty stay up high? The demand for it has lessened substantially since the allied fetches were introduced to modern, unless there's some hot deck running 4 because it needs 4 oh wait infect got probe banned out of it to make it infinitely worse.
If they do a really big print run on this, the fetches are going to tank and be pretty reasonable price wise. Damnation too, which finally gets reprinted after 11 years in a pack product.
I'm excited for this announcement, way to kick off previews and it makes me want to draft this set as it looks like 5 color should be easily viable/hooray.
When some cards go for hundreds of dollars on the secondary market for pokemon, I would say there is a meaningful market there. Note that you don't need these super expensive rare 3 figure cards to compete in pokemon, they are merely the collectors items like 1st edition charizard from the first set.
If WotC prints enough of something, prices will drop. Tins would work the same way. ESPECIALLY when the speculators realized they could not drive up the prices via buyout and such/weren't making money the card prices would fall drastically for standard cards that appeared in tins. It isn't all that difficult to print enough that everyone has access to sub $15 standard cards for pretty much every card, ESPECIALLY considering tins are basically reprints as there are already plenty of the cards in question out there from the release of the set it was in, this just adds to that to make the cards more accessible.
Every purse and wallet has a cap of how much they can or will spend. If I make 45 grand per year, I'm not spending more than that on magic unless I rack up massive credit card debt. You can't even say all the money in the world, because let's say that people cumulatively wanted to spend 1 trillion dollars on sealed product from WotC. WotC doesn't have the means to create that much supply to sell a trillion dollars worth of packs.
The only way to know whether Richard Garfield intended to make a killing profit wise off MTG is to ask him. Not everyone is in it for just money.
WotC really didn't think through their plan, they just made it up as they went along and have been doing the same thing for decades. Sell packs and now intro decks I guess. The closest thing we've gotten to tins are from the vaults, but those just get marked up a bunch due to extremely limited print run so they achieve nothing really not to mention not all the cards in them are at all desirable.
Austere command easily fits in a commander deck, problem is they haven't put it in one since the original commander decks. Could be in here too.
Best boardwipe in modern is now likely yahenni's expertise, though it's never going to be that clearcut as sometimes pyroclasm is the best wrath effect in the context of a specific matchup.
Relic of progenitus was in eternal masters. That being said, they can never reprint relic too much I'd say.
You could just spend less money and use said money later to buy cards you want. Seriously, has no one thought of this? You don't see me going out and buying 100 force of wills so I can trade them for other cards later after they have increased in price by $5.
You are a fool. 23 years ago clearly I should have bought every black lotus in existence, the return on investment would have been insane. Or show and tell. Hindsight is 20/20 as per usual and they could have never printed anything that combo'ed with saheeli rai in fact they slipped up. Investing hoping someone else ****s up sounds financially sound.
Tell me when you invent the time machine, because even when someone does that you wouldn't use it for magic cards, you would use it for the powerball to win hundreds of millions of dollars instead of a few grand.
The real reason investing in magic cards is bad is because it's like buying stock in just one company, so if the company fails you lose.
If a format has to have tremendous card value spikes to be considered a real format that's pathetic. It isn't real until WotC sanctions it, end of story.
It's pathetic how this game is ruined by people who should be putting their money elsewhere, like the stock market. Then again, I expect nothing from people because people are stupid.
If you want to invest, put your money in a mutual fund or something. You'll have better return on investment on average than guessing at what will become expensive over time.
Extended was tried. It really was a great format until they started rotating it, then it started to die slowly after that. It would be the same now. It would be played only when people needed to play it to try to make it to the pro tour and that's it. That's horrible. It would be only worse now with the way that design and development has made the game.
People getting into legacy aren't being priced out by fetches, they are priced out by dual lands. Legacy playerbase isn't really growing, so no, BUG and other such decks shouldn't be creating that big of a demand for misty rainforest. Wasteland is played a lot more in legacy and see where the reprint brought the price to.
If they do a really big print run on this, the fetches are going to tank and be pretty reasonable price wise. Damnation too, which finally gets reprinted after 11 years in a pack product.
I'm excited for this announcement, way to kick off previews and it makes me want to draft this set as it looks like 5 color should be easily viable/hooray.
If WotC prints enough of something, prices will drop. Tins would work the same way. ESPECIALLY when the speculators realized they could not drive up the prices via buyout and such/weren't making money the card prices would fall drastically for standard cards that appeared in tins. It isn't all that difficult to print enough that everyone has access to sub $15 standard cards for pretty much every card, ESPECIALLY considering tins are basically reprints as there are already plenty of the cards in question out there from the release of the set it was in, this just adds to that to make the cards more accessible.
The only way to know whether Richard Garfield intended to make a killing profit wise off MTG is to ask him. Not everyone is in it for just money.
WotC really didn't think through their plan, they just made it up as they went along and have been doing the same thing for decades. Sell packs and now intro decks I guess. The closest thing we've gotten to tins are from the vaults, but those just get marked up a bunch due to extremely limited print run so they achieve nothing really not to mention not all the cards in them are at all desirable.
Best boardwipe in modern is now likely yahenni's expertise, though it's never going to be that clearcut as sometimes pyroclasm is the best wrath effect in the context of a specific matchup.
Relic of progenitus was in eternal masters. That being said, they can never reprint relic too much I'd say.
Tell me when you invent the time machine, because even when someone does that you wouldn't use it for magic cards, you would use it for the powerball to win hundreds of millions of dollars instead of a few grand.
The real reason investing in magic cards is bad is because it's like buying stock in just one company, so if the company fails you lose.
It's pathetic how this game is ruined by people who should be putting their money elsewhere, like the stock market. Then again, I expect nothing from people because people are stupid.