What about trade bans due to being underaged? Poor trading practices is one thing but trade bans due to being underaged is probably the one thing time can cure.
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So, by your way of thinking, a kickball field is only good for playing kickball?
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So, by your way of thinking, you're only allowed to use your imagination while not playing kickball?
By providing a moderately structured environment, you allow the Lawful to engage the Chaotic (and I have for some time now been a proponent of reducing the Lawful aspect of the forums); by giving each one their own forums you encourage separation.
:xd: I, uh, am not sure how to answer these other than maybe reposting my original post:
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To use an anecdote, which is better? To let the kids play in the vacant lot without interference, or to paint some bases on the tar so they can play kickball?
Neither! On the one hand, you're only bound by your imagination. On the other, if you were into kickball the bases would be great.
What would be the best would be defined games in one part (bases, goals, etc.) and a free form, imagination-driven space on the other half. You could still play next to your friends but wouldn't need to play the exact game they were playing.
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The original anecdote stated that the bases would be for kickball and I said that I could certainly see a benefit if you were a kickball player (or really, and base-based game player). I thought that was a positive thing for the field! I could also see distinct benefits to the non-painted lot as well!
I am not sure how you read the implication in your second question in my post at all! I think you'll need to help me out a bit more there.
To use an anecdote, which is better? To let the kids play in the vacant lot without interference, or to paint some bases on the tar so they can play kickball?
Neither! On the one hand, you're only bound by your imagination. On the other, if you were into kickball the bases would be great.
What would be the best would be defined games in one part (bases, goals, etc.) and a free form, imagination-driven space on the other half. You could still play next to your friends but wouldn't need to play the exact game they were playing.
And that's very nice of them, but for my part I'd like to see them concentrate on something else, something I might want to use. Again, this isn't about the lawlessness but about the purposelessness, why should the staff devote time to something that will only have the benefit of allowing users to post, rather than devoting their time to something that will allow users to post effectively. For instance, I think a "***** about Standard" forum in Standard might be worth it [and I'd like to stress the "might be"], because people like *****ing about Standard and I would be interested in their statements, even if those statements amount to little more than frothing at the mouth about getting beat by a 12-year-old at FNM; I do not think it's worth it to have a forum where we might get the same kind of posts except mixed in with a bunch of statements that aren't related to *****ing about Standard that I'd have to read. I'd like to see a change towards a more open environment, sure, but I don't want that change to take place in one catch-all forum where everything is allowed and nothing is worth the time.
Just because you can't see a purpose in the proposed subforum doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. Clearly several of the posters in this thread can see a purpose. I mean, I definitely don't see a purpose to the Standard Forums, since I do not now, nor do I ever plan to play standard (I am semi-jokingly defining purpose under the 'why have it since I don't visit it' category). Placing it at the top of that section, instead of say Causal/EDH (a forum I *do* read and have interest in) is certainly an annoyance to me that I would prefer was changed. But just because I wouldn't use it doesn't mean that others wouldn't either. I think you underestimate the fact that a community could develop in the new subforum, whether you'd want to be a part of it or not!
I don't understand the vehement opposition to stuff that people don't intend to use around here. I mean sure, there's the selfish aspect (that they would rather time be spent on the corner of the forum they care about and seemingly not on any other corner of the forum), but really if places like Mafia and Debate, where there is the distinct possibility for anger/hurt feelings/grudges/etc. still exist and aren't generally 'spilling' over into other places, the question still is why oppose something you won't use?
Frankly, I would be surprised if there were significant problems for the rest of the forums as a result of this proposed subforum (I assume it will have growing pains, as it were, until a community develops).
The thing is, even if I never enter the Spam Forum, I will still have to hear about it in the form of Community Issues threads. And even though that's a minor thing, I don't have to click on it or read it, the staff does, which eats up staff time and might make them cranky.
Yeah, but according to the OP it is the staff who are proposing this subforum! Clearly they are the ones who understand the costs and benefits as they relate to their job the best, and it seems that, at least from the opening post, they are amenable to the idea.
If there could have been electric cars back in the 70s, why can't we remake them now? Is that science just lost to time or something? That sounds pretty crazy.
Right now there is no such thing as a purely electric car. The only one that exists is a car that costs $100,000+ dollars and was made by basically stringing together thousands of laptop batteries. The battery technology simply did not and does not exist to make efficient electric cars.
Isn't the Nissan Leaf supposed to be ~35k? I am not sure it's out yet, but that is a purely electric vehicle.
And don't get me wrong, I think this site is run a lot better than crap like Misetings (is that even a thing anymore).
It died because the guy who owned it quit being involved and never showed up any more. The actual people running the site couldn't do some of the things he could (they didn't have permission or whatever) and some of the mods got ban-happy.
That isn't really the full history, but it's kind of the gist. It was a really awesome place to be before MB quit being attentive and a few mods got power-hungry.
My desk is sadly overflowing with work-related "decorations" (stacks of papers, books, and notes for my discussion sections).
But! I do have an attractive string of double sided tape covered in packing peanuts from the last time I was gone for a couple days. My group mates got me back for filling their drawers with said packing peanuts. I left it up because it 'brightens' up the place!
Make the time a server set time instead of a user set time. Either eastern, central, mountain, pacific. Make it bumps once per day instead once per 24 hours.
I'm still confused as to why this is better than the current system. It's certainly not the case that falling off the front page is inherently bad because we have an outstanding search system (in fact, most of my trading partners find me via search rather than seeing my list at the top!).
I guess I'm saying I like the rule how it is now and am confused how changing it to your proposal makes the system so much better as to justify the change. I really like the current setup of clear rules and strict enforcement (in market street). People who might continually try to push the boundaries on a 'soft 24 hours' to earlier and earlier bump times would certainly make me leery that they would try and 'cut corners' other places. 24 hours is an arbitrary cutoff to be sure (outside of the obvious tie in to a day), but it seems to work for the vast majority of MS posters!
Source? And are you claiming they have been doing it so much so that it throws the whole idea of AGW into question?
Yeah, this one bothers me to no end as well! The "climategate" thing ended with, essentially, this conclusion (thus, I am not sure what significant groups are still under investigation either):
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"We saw no evidence of any deliberate scientific malpractice," Oxburgh's inquiry concluded. "Rather, we found a small group of dedicated, if slightly disorganized, researchers.
I can think of two options off the top of my head:
1. Go 'Office Space' on it. Take the jar to a field and film yourself trashing it with a baseball bat. Music, of course, should be "Still" by Geto Boys.
2. The not serious option: 'destroy' it by pouring it in her gas tank.
Huh? The first several songs sound like they are throwbacks to the Kiss Me/Disintegration/Wish era. 'Underneath the Stars' and 'The Only One' particularly, are VERY Cure songs (and are reminiscent of the late 80's/early 90's Cure).
Those bans have been appeal-able for a while now.
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And then, once you're on a whaling kick, read Jamrach's Menagerie by carol birch. It's really good, if a little dark towards the end.
I think you is misunderstand. This is a help desk for super villains, not that iaabm is one, per se.
:xd: I, uh, am not sure how to answer these other than maybe reposting my original post:
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Neither! On the one hand, you're only bound by your imagination. On the other, if you were into kickball the bases would be great.
What would be the best would be defined games in one part (bases, goals, etc.) and a free form, imagination-driven space on the other half. You could still play next to your friends but wouldn't need to play the exact game they were playing.
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The original anecdote stated that the bases would be for kickball and I said that I could certainly see a benefit if you were a kickball player (or really, and base-based game player). I thought that was a positive thing for the field! I could also see distinct benefits to the non-painted lot as well!
I am not sure how you read the implication in your second question in my post at all! I think you'll need to help me out a bit more there.
Neither! On the one hand, you're only bound by your imagination. On the other, if you were into kickball the bases would be great.
What would be the best would be defined games in one part (bases, goals, etc.) and a free form, imagination-driven space on the other half. You could still play next to your friends but wouldn't need to play the exact game they were playing.
Just because you can't see a purpose in the proposed subforum doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. Clearly several of the posters in this thread can see a purpose. I mean, I definitely don't see a purpose to the Standard Forums, since I do not now, nor do I ever plan to play standard (I am semi-jokingly defining purpose under the 'why have it since I don't visit it' category). Placing it at the top of that section, instead of say Causal/EDH (a forum I *do* read and have interest in) is certainly an annoyance to me that I would prefer was changed. But just because I wouldn't use it doesn't mean that others wouldn't either. I think you underestimate the fact that a community could develop in the new subforum, whether you'd want to be a part of it or not!
I don't understand the vehement opposition to stuff that people don't intend to use around here. I mean sure, there's the selfish aspect (that they would rather time be spent on the corner of the forum they care about and seemingly not on any other corner of the forum), but really if places like Mafia and Debate, where there is the distinct possibility for anger/hurt feelings/grudges/etc. still exist and aren't generally 'spilling' over into other places, the question still is why oppose something you won't use?
Frankly, I would be surprised if there were significant problems for the rest of the forums as a result of this proposed subforum (I assume it will have growing pains, as it were, until a community develops).
Yeah, but according to the OP it is the staff who are proposing this subforum! Clearly they are the ones who understand the costs and benefits as they relate to their job the best, and it seems that, at least from the opening post, they are amenable to the idea.
Isn't the Nissan Leaf supposed to be ~35k? I am not sure it's out yet, but that is a purely electric vehicle.
It died because the guy who owned it quit being involved and never showed up any more. The actual people running the site couldn't do some of the things he could (they didn't have permission or whatever) and some of the mods got ban-happy.
That isn't really the full history, but it's kind of the gist. It was a really awesome place to be before MB quit being attentive and a few mods got power-hungry.
But! I do have an attractive string of double sided tape covered in packing peanuts from the last time I was gone for a couple days. My group mates got me back for filling their drawers with said packing peanuts. I left it up because it 'brightens' up the place!
I'm still confused as to why this is better than the current system. It's certainly not the case that falling off the front page is inherently bad because we have an outstanding search system (in fact, most of my trading partners find me via search rather than seeing my list at the top!).
I guess I'm saying I like the rule how it is now and am confused how changing it to your proposal makes the system so much better as to justify the change. I really like the current setup of clear rules and strict enforcement (in market street). People who might continually try to push the boundaries on a 'soft 24 hours' to earlier and earlier bump times would certainly make me leery that they would try and 'cut corners' other places. 24 hours is an arbitrary cutoff to be sure (outside of the obvious tie in to a day), but it seems to work for the vast majority of MS posters!
Yeah, this one bothers me to no end as well! The "climategate" thing ended with, essentially, this conclusion (thus, I am not sure what significant groups are still under investigation either):
(one of many links on the topic for everyone else, assuming LogicX already knew this answer): http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/04/14/us-climate-britain-emails-idUSTRE63D2S920100414
1. Go 'Office Space' on it. Take the jar to a field and film yourself trashing it with a baseball bat. Music, of course, should be "Still" by Geto Boys.
2. The not serious option: 'destroy' it by pouring it in her gas tank.