I'm no Mafia theory expert, but I thought this setup was a great way to have very similar functionality as a regular basic without being completely basic. Hell, I was the victim of the PGO and I hold no hard feelings against Eco. So for what its worth I liked the setup.
(I do, however, hold it against MandersHex :))
Maaaaaaaaan, after Zebi flipped town my gut was telling me it was lrd and Manders, but I had no real evidence to go off of, so I didn't feel like it was worth looking into. I feel like as town your chances of winning are only as good as the scum are bad.
That aside, great game everyone. I've learned a lot, and I think I'm starting to get the hang of this.
I don't believe Udnam. Really don't like how lrd totally accepts it, combined with how he brushed aside Udnam claiming his targets (yeah you ask). Saying Udnam & lrd but with that gem by ED *sigh*.
What gem?
Self protect? I call bull☺☺☺☺.
Believe it. You're asserting that a self-protecting doc is less likely than a town with no doc, in what appears to be a very basic setup. You know, for the Basic game we're playing. I find this attitude to be much more likely to be coming from scum, than from town.
This seems odd. Did you clarify if you could target yourself because, generally, docs cannot self-protect.
There was nothing in my role PM that said I couldn't, and my N1 PM indicated that I successfully protected myself.
It bothers me that you have so much to go on for everyone else, yet listed nothing for AE except that you still think he's scum. Even if you just said "I've already posted my thoughts on him", it would be better than this.
They amount to the same thing. I feel like you're grasping at straws.
A note to the remaining two vanilla townies: You're in a fairly decent position right now. Of the 5 players in the game, you know that you are not scum, and more or less that I am not scum, and of the 3 people left you know two of which must be scum, so only one person other you and me is town. Please keep this mind as you proceed.
Sorry for the delay, I'm coming up on finals week and I wanted to spend some time rereading and thinking about things.
I don't really see how who I targeted should influence your opinions on others, and I think its a little suspicious that you're waiting for more information of any kind before telling us what you think.
Regardless, I targeted myself night one and then lrd nights two and three.
As far as what I think of others:
ArchmageEternal: still my favorite pick for scum
Eric Draven: After a brief reread I feel that his play is different than it was in Basic 14. He was more involved in that game, and he really hasn't done a whole lot in this one. Second pick for scum. I know meta isn't necessarily the best argument against someone, but AE isn't the only scum here
MandersHex: Her day two play was called out by AE, and while I still think the attack is weak it is still something, I guess. I don't like her Day 3 play, she just seemed to sit around and only say "Yes lets discuss the situation"
lrd: So while I was rereading I noticed I was considering everything lrd said as though he were confirmed town, and then I thought "Wait, what if lrd is scum and he's just fooled us all?" The conclusion I came to is that we should just concede the game. (so lrd if you're scum you should just claim as such and we'll give up :p)
I am Juni Swan, Survivor Doc. I was hired as a child psychologist by the movie production to make sure the chilluns weren't permanently scarred by working on Slawter. After the attack I got magic powers, and each night I can protect a person from harm.
Also, no comments on the fact that you're one of the top two picks for today's lynch?
I don't exactly know what to say. Most of what's been said about me is "Udnam sure is scummy" without pointing to anything specific. I can sit here and say "I'm town" but there doesn't seem a lot of point in doing that.
AE is scum BUUUUT ED might be. Man, way to cover your tracks here. What a scummy post.
Way to put words in my mouth. Yeah, anyone might be scum. lrd might be scum. MandersHex might be scum. I can't know for sure at the moment, but I don't think they are, and I don't think Eric Draven is either.
I think AE and Zebi are the remaining scum. I'm getting a fairly neutral read from ED, and I think the suspicious things he's done can be chalked up to noobiness.
Is there a point to this "debate" thread? It seems like you are saying "here's my stance on a semi controversial subject. I don't want to hear people explaining the other side" If thats the case, then why bother posting?
I just don't trust scientists. They're always trying to lie to me to keep me down and get me all pissed off and stuff.
Successful troll was successful.
In other news, I'm quite happy to see more promotional versions of generic red burn spells.
(I do, however, hold it against MandersHex
That aside, great game everyone. I've learned a lot, and I think I'm starting to get the hang of this.
Yeah, I realized that when I reread it just barely. I'm used to being all defensive, when I should have been taking it as advice.
What gem?
Believe it. You're asserting that a self-protecting doc is less likely than a town with no doc, in what appears to be a very basic setup. You know, for the Basic game we're playing. I find this attitude to be much more likely to be coming from scum, than from town.
What are you saying?
There was nothing in my role PM that said I couldn't, and my N1 PM indicated that I successfully protected myself.
They amount to the same thing. I feel like you're grasping at straws.
A note to the remaining two vanilla townies: You're in a fairly decent position right now. Of the 5 players in the game, you know that you are not scum, and more or less that I am not scum, and of the 3 people left you know two of which must be scum, so only one person other you and me is town. Please keep this mind as you proceed.
Sorry for the delay, I'm coming up on finals week and I wanted to spend some time rereading and thinking about things.
I don't really see how who I targeted should influence your opinions on others, and I think its a little suspicious that you're waiting for more information of any kind before telling us what you think.
Regardless, I targeted myself night one and then lrd nights two and three.
As far as what I think of others:
ArchmageEternal: still my favorite pick for scum
Eric Draven: After a brief reread I feel that his play is different than it was in Basic 14. He was more involved in that game, and he really hasn't done a whole lot in this one. Second pick for scum. I know meta isn't necessarily the best argument against someone, but AE isn't the only scum here
MandersHex: Her day two play was called out by AE, and while I still think the attack is weak it is still something, I guess. I don't like her Day 3 play, she just seemed to sit around and only say "Yes lets discuss the situation"
lrd: So while I was rereading I noticed I was considering everything lrd said as though he were confirmed town, and then I thought "Wait, what if lrd is scum and he's just fooled us all?" The conclusion I came to is that we should just concede the game. (so lrd if you're scum you should just claim as such and we'll give up :p)
I am Juni Swan, Survivor Doc. I was hired as a child psychologist by the movie production to make sure the chilluns weren't permanently scarred by working on Slawter. After the attack I got magic powers, and each night I can protect a person from harm.
If this is the case, I must say I feel I'm being tunnel visioned. If/when you re-read or pbpa or whatever on me, I ask that you keep this in mind.
Not really, no.
In Duel Monsters Mafia I made a few posts before I had to replace out. Cantripmancer replaced me.
I replaced in for Basic 12 for all of 22 hours before the game ended, and I was scum that game. I was scum in basic 14.
I don't exactly know what to say. Most of what's been said about me is "Udnam sure is scummy" without pointing to anything specific. I can sit here and say "I'm town" but there doesn't seem a lot of point in doing that.
I don't think we should lynch ED. That is my position.
If it was, it wasn't really listened to.
I can sympathize with the position he was in. I've been there.
A good portion of ED's recent posts are him interacting with AE.
Way to put words in my mouth. Yeah, anyone might be scum. lrd might be scum. MandersHex might be scum. I can't know for sure at the moment, but I don't think they are, and I don't think Eric Draven is either.
I think AE and Zebi are the remaining scum. I'm getting a fairly neutral read from ED, and I think the suspicious things he's done can be chalked up to noobiness.
Don't like ED pointing out his own meta as town though, so I'm keeping an eye on him.
I still favor a Zebi lynch today.
I just don't trust scientists. They're always trying to lie to me to keep me down and get me all pissed off and stuff.