No, here's your problem: you didn't "cite info." There was absolutely no information in that entire post. It was baseless opinion, statements that were obviously counter-factual at the time. There was no information, no data, nothing.Quote from Card Slinger J »I'm not defending my position on this when I was being manipulated by the YouTuber whose info I cited.
And here you are doing the same thing. You may have moved on from that person, but you've clearly gone from one anti-science social media person to another, because the statements you are making are still anti-science, still counter-factual, and still devoid of data.
Yes. Vaccines, masking, and social distancing. They work. The data proves it. When they're actually implemented, they work.What matters now is that we have more data on how to get this pandemic under control
There clearly was. Social distancing saved lives.as opposed to 1 1/2 years ago when there was no need to completely paralyze the foundations of our society in the name of safety.
It's not in a state of prolonged gridlock. We closed nonessential businesses because it was a necessary measure to get the virus under control. We did remote distance learning because it was a necessary measure to keep children safe. Both schools and businesses have since reopened.Travel bans I can get behind but the global economy and public education in a state of prolonged gridlock?
Again, how are you still maintaining this stance after 1 1/2 years? We've seen what happens when the virus numbers drop: things reopen. We close them as a matter of public safety. We reopen them when the virus numbers drop below a certain point. The answer is no, we're not in perpetual lockdown, as demonstrated by us not being in lockdown anymore.
What are you talking about? Virtually no one is quitting their job over the vaccine mandates. The number is estimated at 1% of all workers in the US. 1%.How are we supposed to keep up with millions of people quitting their jobs over vaccine / mask mandates?
Who do you think is traumatizing the children more: the people who are adhering to public safety advice to benefit society in the face of a widespread global pandemic, or the people who refuse to listen to science and reason and pursue courses of action that would directly lead to the pandemic continuing and, in turn, causing greater threat and harm to said children?What are we doing to the mental health of our children and their children as they get older? What kind of example are we setting for them?
Because doing a year of remote learning is not going to be anywhere near as debilitating as being immuno-compromised, to say nothing of dying from covid.
Really does feel like you are, dude, especially since those measures that you're railing against saved countless lives, and because you're spreading the very misinformation that no doubt cost many people their lives.No I'm not trying to undermine how many people have died from this virus
Once again, not actually happening, it's close to like 1% if that.especially since most of the healthcare workers and researchers who should be providing as much info about the virus to the public as possible are ALL unemployed either because either they chose not to abide by the government mandates
Which was preventable, and would have been prevented had people distanced, adhered to mask policy, and gotten vaccinated.or that they couldn't keep up with hospitals exceeding their max capacity of COVID-19 patients on a daily basis.
Wait, "thankfully?" Why are you spreading anti-vaccination nonsense like eating fruits and vegetables to combat covid if you're pro-vaccine?Thankfully it's not as bad now that over 70% of all American citizens are fully vaccinated with only 30% that didn't get vaccinated
Second, we are definitely not at 70% vaccination. Where are you getting your data? We're at about 60%. The goal is over 80%. And one of the biggest problems towards getting there has been rampant misinformation about healthcare measures such as the vaccine against Covid. Which you are participating in. If you want more people to get vaccinated, you should aspire to do your part by seeking to listen to the very experts you are deriding and actually propagating things grounded in fact, rather than misinformation.
Ok, Dr. Oz is a media personality, sure. Dr. Fauci, on the other hand, is the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the Chief Medical Advisor to the President. There is absolutely no comparison between the two.What I was referring to in regards to "the experts" are medical professionals within Mainstream Media like Dr. Fauci, Dr. Oz, etc.
And here we are with the conspiracy theories.who are bought and paid for by Big Pharma to keep people in fear and anxiety instead of telling them the truth about how to handle COVID-19 in a way that's kind, compassionate, and caring
Again, specifics. What, SPECIFICALLY, about what Fauci has said do you take objection to?
Is it that he advised people to socially distance, wear masks, and get vaccinated - the measures that have been proven to work to combat covid?
What do you actually have about Fauci that's actually objectionable?
Which is really astounding coming from someone who admits himself he propagated conspiracy theories, and also is STILL DOING SO.What this is teaching us is for us to do our own research instead of relying on those who don't know the answers and are just there to keep the fearmongering
... How, exactly? By making a vaccine to the pandemic? The one you admit is a good thing?going which is exactly what Big Pharma is doing to extract as much money as possible by prolonging the pandemic as long as possible.
Except you're still propagating anti-science nonsense. You've just switched from one source of misinformation to another.I've already said that I was being manipulated by a YouTuber at the time in which I cited the info from not realizing the full context of who the individual was in regards to the bad reputation he had but lesson learned. Nobody is perfect we all make mistakes from time to time even myself. Move on.
Are you agreeing with me that the sources of misinformation are the ones who are really the ones spreading anxiety and fear, or are you agreeing with the post that has been explicitly proven to be nonsense, I'm confused.I guess that's one way to put it bluntly.
I'm sorry to hear that.My friends' husband who recently died from COVID-19
Well, it's not a booster for Omicron. It's a booster. There's still research ongoing as to whether the vaccine/booster are effective against Omicron.was fully vaccinated with the first two doses of Moderna but didn't receive a booster for Omicron,
May I ask you something?however what I think happened was that he had an underlying condition that was triggered from when he got the virus that made it hard for the vaccine to control. Like I said earlier, there's not enough data and research studies on how COVID-19 triggers underlying and pre-existing conditions that manages to take someone's life with the most common case among COVID-19 patients being Myocarditis which is an inflammation of the heart muscle that can also affect your respiratory system.
My friend and her daughter also managed to get COVID-19 while fully vaccinated with the first two doses of Pfizer except the cases were only mild where my friend and her daughter were recently released from quarantine with no signs of being able to infect other people. She told me that she temporarily lost her sense of taste and smell which is a common symptom among COVID-19 patients and thankfully she got her senses back. I have another friend at work whose husband got Myocarditis from getting vaccinated so hopefully he's doing better now. First time I got vaccinated I had muscle aches and body fatigue but that was really it.
What is your actual argument, here, exactly?
Like, I'm genuinely trying to figure this out. What is even your stance at this point?
You accuse doctors and politicians who are advocating things like masks and vaccines as being wrong and bad and fearmongering, which shows you are clearly listening to anti-science, anti-vaccination people on the internet, and yet, you say that vaccines are good and not only do you concede that covid is not a hoax, but you personally know people who have gotten it.
So I don't understand your position at all.
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