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  • posted a message on Arena Jumpstart - New Kiora and more blue cards (Eurogamer preview)
    Quote from rowanalpha »
    The reason for this one probably is more subtle than the others: The fight doesn't kill the creature, state based effects kill the creature only after the spell is done resolving. If you wanted this to work in paper, it would have to spell that out in one of several awkward ways instead of the game engine just recognizing it. (Also doesn't say if "wins" includes your creature surviving or not. Is both creatures dying a "draw"?)

    In all likelihood they would just define "wins the fight" in the comp rules and use the "wins" text on a printed card.
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  • posted a message on Arena Jumpstart - New Kiora and more blue cards (Eurogamer preview)
    I wonder, when I absolutely proxy this and pay nothing to WOTC, should we play the +1 ability in my playgroup as "Pay U. Create a 0/4 blue Kraken creature token" or is that too broken?

    Why not just get some Kraken Hatchling cards to have on hand? They're dirt cheap and easy to acquire.
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  • posted a message on Digital only cards revealed
    Quote from rowanalpha »
    Manor Guardian - Tutoring for a specific card without revealing what it is? Sure, nice gimmick, but nothing that wouldn't be doable in tournaments or even kitchen table games (just add a trusted third party for the search, like a judge or the LSG owner, exactly how this was needed with how Sylvan Library was worded). Unstable already proved that is not that big deal to ask to a third player of the game to do certain actions (Kindslaver, Subcontract etc)
    As a judge, this would be a nightmare for tournaments, because you would have to call a judge everytime you used the effect. Random bystander isn't sufficient for tournament play because then the competitors would just argue if they were really unbiased and have to call a judge anyway. The unstable cards are a bad precedent because (a) their effects were all public and (b) its silver-bordered. Additionally, this effect doesn't shuffle which means the player in paper would be able to learn the order of their deck (and cause game delays while trying to remember as much as possible) while in Arena the game just shows you the potential card without you seeing your deck or the order being impacted.

    Casually doable but not in any competitive environment.

    I agree that it would be difficult/impossible in a competitive environment. Even "casually doable" is debatable. Do I take a picture and text it to a friend who isn't there, who also understands enough about Magic that they can verify that a card has a MV of 2, who is also friends with the other person/people playing in the game so they can text the other friend(s) that my card was OK? Then repeat this process for every player? Every turn if the effect happens frequently? Is that friend going to keep texting back all night, even if the game goes late, or tell us to stop bothering them after the 20th text?

    It doesn't take much to go from "doable" to "logistical nightmare".
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  • posted a message on Secret Lair: Dan Frazier is Back: The Allied and Enemy Signets
    Seriously, look at this abomination.
    The card is horrible dark and a crime to ever leave the printer.
    To put this kind of prints in a package and charge money for it, is an insult to the players.

    I cant imagine how they looked at this and thought "oh well thats fine", its a total failure.

    I wonder if this is an issue of local printing quality. I bought both Akroma and Kamahl to lead a commander deck, in etched foil, and they look quite nice. My Akroma is nowhere near that dark.
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  • posted a message on Secret Lair: Dan Frazier is Back: The Allied and Enemy Signets

    Absolutely nobody ever liked them, as they look horrible in paper (extremely dark, instead of bright and shiny like oldschool foils).

    I like them just fine. They don't curl, and many of them look quite nice. The Modern Horizons 2 etched foils turned out better than the Commander Legends etched foils, which shows that they worked on improving them after their first appearance (less darkening).
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  • posted a message on July 2021 Commander Rules Committee Update
    Quote from JuiceBOX »
    Quote from MrMoustacheMM »
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    But these bannings are f***ing out of control.

    No kidding! In the past 5 years they've banned 0-2 cards every year, for a huge total of SEVEN CARDS! That is outrageous! Like, how am I supposed to keep up with this?!


    I mean, you can be cheeky all you want

    And I will be, because you're overreacting. Saying they're "******* out of control" is not even close to accurate. In fact they clearly want to keep bannings to a minimum, and have. 0-2 per year is very reasonable, and every card they've banned has been worth banning.

    The other cards "close to" Hullbreacher don't let you then play all the new cards you just drew on the same turn, and it sounds like people aren't building a lot of Notion Thief-Wheel decks the way they were building Hullbreacher-Wheel decks.
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  • posted a message on July 2021 Commander Rules Committee Update
    Quote from JuiceBOX »
    But these bannings are f***ing out of control.

    No kidding! In the past 5 years they've banned 0-2 cards every year, for a huge total of SEVEN CARDS! That is outrageous! Like, how am I supposed to keep up with this?!
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  • posted a message on [AFR] True Polymorph— TCGPlayer preview
    Collapse your opponent's creature into something infinitely powerless?

    Darksteel Mutation is an enchantment, not an artifact or creature. I guess you could target Darksteel Mutation with Liquimetal Coating to make it an artifact until end of turn, then target your oppenent's equipment and turn it into another Darksteel Mutation.
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  • posted a message on Help with choosing the right MTG product line.
    You might try a box of Jumpstart packs. Each pack contains a group of 20 cards that are intended to work as half a deck. You open two packs each, shuffle them together, and off you go. I believe each pack comes with a list of the cards it contained, so once the games are done, you can split the deck back into its component parts. Put each half-deck into a box together, and any time you want to play, you can each pick two half-decks and play. I believe this gives you 276 possible decks you can create from just one box (and of course a second box increases that number), and thousands of games where you and your opponent never play the same two decks against each other. Even if you just open all 24 packs and choose which ones go together, and keep them together forever, you still have 12 different decks to play.

    This gives you a ton of prebuilt decks that are all mostly balanced against each other (with duel decks you'll find that while the two released together may be optimized to play against each other, playing one from 2012 against one from 2016 may give you an unbalanced game). And if they ever release a Jumpstart 2, presumably you'll be able to expand your half-deck collection to give you even more variety.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Help me Make this BS deck work
    Quote from Araujo »

    This is Turn 5 with another full round of waiting till you can trigger, so it's very unlikely to go through.

    And after that another round of waiting until the ability triggers again so that you can win (you only win when the ability resolves, and by the time you use Vorel and Gilder Bairn that ability has already resolved).

    I built a deck based on getting this to work. The best I found was a combo of Energy Field and Rest in Peace.
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  • posted a message on UB cards from secret lairs will be reprinted in MTG form in “The list” and maybe even certain sets in magic
    Quote from Mystic_X »
    would diamonds (or lion's eye diamonds) have any special meaning or a high value if they were found in abundance all over the place? How many practical purposes (or deck archtypes) do they truly usefully serve?

    Diamonds ARE found in abundance. Their "scarcity" is artificial, created by a monopoly by the DeBeers corporation. They aren't special at all, and are intrinsically pretty much worthless.

    Diamond (usually lab-made) is used as a hardening agent for many types of tools (often drill bits). A drill bit with diamond in it can cut through much harder materials than your standard steel drill bit.

    I know, that's not the point you were making, but if you're going to illustrate a point, use an example that doesn't directly contradict your point.
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  • posted a message on on MTGO........ The errata update we all been waiting for....Phyrexian Creature type update (added text version of cards)
    I know you're definitely still missing my point, which is the story implications of having Phyrexians on Amonkhet,

    Who ever said the creature type errata of one card must have a retro-active retcon of every single past print of that card?

    The rules said that. Every version of a black-bordered card with a specific name is treated as identical to each other version (with the official text coming from Gatherer). You can't have two different versions of a card with the exact same name (again, in black border).
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  • posted a message on Secret Lair: Stranger Things
    Quote from DL_Ojutai »
    Well, sure, but I already don't understand the purpose of set boosters

    They're for people who want less draft chaff and more playable cards, along with a higher chance of getting multiple rares per pack. Basically for people who crack packs just to get cards (as opposed to drafting with them).
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  • posted a message on on MTGO........ The errata update we all been waiting for....Phyrexian Creature type update (added text version of cards)

    Seems you are completely missing my point. the Paladins case is exactly the same as the Sphinx case.
    Are Paladins clearly phyrexian in the first print but not so in another reprint? Yes.
    Is the Sphinx clearly phyrexian in the first print but not so in another reprint? Yes.
    Yet, they received a different treatment.

    Saying that 7th ed. could have a phyrexianized version of the Paladins is mirror climbing, because even if this was true (and I don't believe so), that still doesn't explain why the Sphinx "Blessed from the hands of Jin-Gitaxias" itself, is not a phyrexian at all.

    I know you're definitely still missing my point, which is the story implications of having Phyrexians on Amonkhet, vs a couple of cards from 20 years ago printed in a core set with no real story implications. THAT'S what the difference between them is.
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  • posted a message on on MTGO........ The errata update we all been waiting for....Phyrexian Creature type update (added text version of cards)
    Quote from MrMoustacheMM »
    Gatherer has been updated with the Phyrexian creature type. Notable exception so far is Consecrated Sphinx, which remains just a Sphinx.

    That makes sense. Otherwise, how did the Phyrexians make it to Amonkhet (Invocation)? And would one really want to help small children become the future (Secret Lair)? (I tried to show these as card tags, but couldn't figure out what set names to use.)


    That actually doesn't make sense, because:
    1) secret lair arts are not canon to MTG universe but are only artistic experiments (unless you're telling it's perfectly fine for Tamiyo dressed like a 1930 american detective)

    Fair point. My Amonkhet example still stands though as a good reason not to change it.
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