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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    yeah tom's just v
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Quote from Jackrito »
    I'm going to claim since it is semi important to current events I shot ZDS last night.



    okay. So who the **** killed whisp. Jack town vig vibes indeed, Tom.

    like i said, think it was likely a second scum kill

    i think it's unlikely that the carrows had double odd-night kp, even if the poison is delayed. think odd/even poison cycle is more likely

    scum killing wisp makes sense in the sense that he was starting to be fairly townread by the end of the day and was top poster. his reads were pretty against the grain so... maybe there's something to that? plus the potential double riddle thing

    or hell maybe scum just wanted us to be paranoid knowing that wisp's alignment wouldn't flip

    also to clarify i think this is a second scum kill, yes. fonti is a scumkill in 99.9% of worlds.
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    Quote from TerRaine »
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Quote from Ampharos »
    fonti probably scum kill

    wisp scum vig or 3p imo. kinda wack if there's

    zds town vig?

    fonti being part of an sk duo is. something. dunno if they have a standard nk or not, given the odd-night poison

    mad at myself for not playing the game more saturday night. definitely was gutreading konan town off her emotional responses to pushes on her but didn't have time to defend her before the hammer. annoying.

    this setup is wack



    hey how do you know it’s a duo?????


    The carrows are siblings. They’re a pair.
    yeah, this.
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    also i think it was tom(?) that had a theory that there's a tom riddle on each alignment

    which could point to scum knowing to kill wisp given that, in hindsight, he pretty blatantly claimed riddle in-thread if you knew what to look for

    i do agree that axelrod looks sketchy as **** in light of the new setup info
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Man was I the only one scum reading fulcrum? I couldn’t be.


    Lasts death puzzles me a bit.



    Concidering we only know one other person who’s alignment won’t be revealed, we can assume axlerod was claiming Tom riddle has to survive. Thus being an angel. so we know he is probably on last’s team, and is not town. I think there is a 4th alignment.


    so axle should probably die concidering our win condition.


    but I think last was a town vig kill.





    zds dies. Carrow faction kill???


    As does fulcrum. Probably most likely the mafia kill.


    Those are my thoughts on the night.




    jackrito hardclaimed town vigilante and hardclaimed the ZDS shot
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    i suppose assuming the poison's on wisp requires me to believe that scum have two nks (or that there's another separate sk faction, but like... come on), because otherwise fonti obviously never poisons her partner's kill target or whatever

    i think scum having 2 nks is perfectly plausible so this feels like a fine assumption aorn
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Also I am submitting amy as possible scum.


    Id say you were top town and you didn’t die. Hmmmm
    i'd posit that most people weren't anywhere near as low on fonti as you were. i personally had last night's death prediction at like 60/40 fonti/myself, just because i think she was generally a louder/more confident voice than i was and there wasn't a ton that distinguished us in the actual reads department
    Quote from Slothful »
    Not against a KJ wagon.

    Quote from Rhand »
    I think Fulcrum was the NK and Wisp was killed by the second SK.
    I don’t know why everyone seems to think the second SK has even Night KP when Fulcrum’s target dies delayed.
    I don't understand that statement. How does font's odd-Night poison being delayed mean her partner can't have an even-Night KP?

    Quote from Trisscar »
    Ah crap forgot that one, apologies.
    ...I can see it if someone is from a third party faction, and they for some reason thought ZDS was a maf, or dangerous role that needing offing immediately. Which admittedly does not make much sense here since it was D1 and I personally did not notice a whole lot that would induce that thought from ZDS's play.

    I can also see it if someone aimed a kill and it was redirected. I don't actually know what flavor of redirect and if the killer would be notified.

    I could probably go down a couple rabbit holes and see it being a random shot that no one controlled for whatever reason, a reflect-style function of another role (which is technically a redirect but still an odd one), "Voldemort gets bored/Nagini gets hungry and offs a player a night based on actions taken", some kind of false death mechanic, etc. These are closer to wormholes than rabbit holes though.
    I like the genuine-seeming, free-flowing thought on this and Trisscar's previous post, so I'll like him for now.

    Triss, the redirector/reflector wormhole could potentially be a thing, except that Jack admitted to killing Dork and unless he's lying to us (why?) his target was always intended as Dork. Until we have more solid reason to believe this, I would just put that idea in the backburner.

    Scum is unlikely to hit Dork based on possibility of WE (wrongful execution; trying out a few things to swap for ML), 3P are unlikely unless townsiding or rolehunting (unlikely for the latter, and why not just let him get hung if so?) Which leaves Jack being town!vig or townsided SK as the most likely answer.
    Barring tinfoil, that is.

    Quote from Ampharos »
    i think everyone except rod and tubba has checked in

    which means it's either one of them or it's a dead person (or someone's sandbagging, but hopefully not)

    personally i'm guessing fonti was aiming villagers with it and either it's rod or it was wisp
    Is the bolded a gut feel or do you have actual reason to believe it?

    tbh, I was half-thinking that her target was most likely Dork, for scumreading reasons.
    it's mostly just me thinking that fonti had no real reason to townside with her nk, given that i'm guessing she probably also assumed that she was a likely scum nk target. would say that if you're an sk in that position you want to make sure that at least someone on the village dies

    that said, i think everyone's checked in except tubba? and nobody's claimed poisoned. so it's either tubba, for... some reason, or it's on a dead person (again, my money's on wisp, because i don't think fonti would townside and poison ZDS), or someone's sandbagging their claim, which i would prefer they stop doing if so
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    i think everyone except rod and tubba has checked in

    which means it's either one of them or it's a dead person (or someone's sandbagging, but hopefully not)

    personally i'm guessing fonti was aiming villagers with it and either it's rod or it was wisp
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    actually yeah i definitely know who WMU is

    she gets a pass for like a week at which point i will reexamine the meta read on her

    but i'm fairly confident now that i can get it right
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    mm

    ##Vote: Tubba Fett

    WakeMeUp do i know you on your main? i have a suspicion i know who you are but i'm unsure
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from fulcrum »
    Also, the scumteam is literally just Konan, Tubba, Wakemeup, Sloth and Ter. Amy, Last, Lagoon, tom, kpaca, Terry, Rodemy, Jackrito, Trisscar and Fuwa are all obvious town, mafia is so easy, don't @ me.
    Quote from fulcrum »
    Right, I forgot ZDS.

    The scumteam is lirerally just Konan/Tubba/Wake/Sloth/ZDS.

    Boom, bye scum.
    unnamed players: axel, rhand, kj
    mm rhand had like. just subbed in at that point iirc, though it's odd that trisscar makes the townlist given that

    and i don't think anyone has a confident read on kj

    i feeeeeeeel like fonti would be more likely to townread her partner? unless she could legitimately find 0 justification for doing so. shrug emoji
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    Quote from gooLagoon »
    Quote from kpaca »
    Can someone tell me what KP means?


    Top suspect right now: Ampharos.


    Marinating.
    I'll be honest, she popped into my head specifically as a font buddy. Otherwise, not really?
    fair play. she definitely had me hard pocketed and i feel kinda dumb now that she flipped

    that said, here's a thought: if i were fonti's partner, i would have a vested interest in her not getting nk'd by scum, yeah? and fonti's very very capable of eating the n1, as we've just seen

    so with that in mind, i think it's quite possible we're looking for someone who didn't have fonti as their top villager, or who at least wasn't pushing the idea as hard as i was
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    other iso*

    typing hard
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    So Amy, please answer at the question regarding the differences you found in the MC game and my play here who makes you vote me.

    And i was multitabling in games that now are finished, I can focus here more, post and interact more than once in 12 hours. One od these games was MU team game that Aquilla hosted.

    I woke up, btw. At least for now I am reporting for duty.
    The NKs are little odd for me, Fulcrum i think is mafia target, she was town read by many, but idk what to do with Wisp dying, if mafia he may be the victim of a redirected shot, but i am sure he is villager. Also i guess Tom Riddle-s may have different AIs.
    Iirc Ose said the characters are not connected with AI so who has a bad character is not always scum and who has a good one is not always town.
    It makes sense? I have to read that once more though.

    I wish to read a little in who pushed ZDS. That push was scum orchestrated for sure.
    i didn't save any specific examples but: to put it simply, there was a depth of thought i saw in the Mafia Colosseum game that i had yet to see here. here it felt like you were barely even playing, which i guess... could be true, if you were multitabling

    this post already has me feeling a little better about you, fwiw. this is more in line with what i'd expect to see given the other isp
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  • posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia | Day 2
    Quote from TerRaine »
    Quote from Ampharos »
    i guess an actual important question we can ask today is "who fits as a fonti partner"
    Can we focus to find mafia? Asking for a friend.


    Given the the wording of Fontis flip I would assume the other Carrow can poison on even Nights and their wincon is to kill us all...so a scum by any other name can kill town just as dead.
    +1

    certainly not opposed to a scum lynch but if there's a chance to wipe out the SK faction i'd love to take it, especially given that i'm inclined to agree with axelrod and suspect that the other carrow is an even-night poisoner
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