Thank you so much for the excellent feedback, Outcry!
Those hate bears you listed are all amazing! I think I may definitely swap in Drannith Magistrate for one of my other hate bears. Any suggestions on which of my current hate bears I could possibly swap out for Drannith or some of the others you have listed? I think I have a good balance of hate bears where I would have to swap our rather than just add in and remove another card. Linvala, Keep of Silence and Aura of Silence seems really good to me. I've seen Linvala on some Karador/Boonweaver lists.
Additionally, I think I will keep Deathrite Shaman in my deck. You're right that he is quite a powerful card. As for fetch lands, I think my mana base is fine for now and quite good based on the budget I have. There's not to many straight "enter tapped" lands in there.
For Shriekmaw, I am indeed only using him for his Evoke cost.
As far as our playstyle, I think we do like to get decently competitive...nothing to crazy. I would only be using these tutors to assemble my combo pieces. Would grabbing a hate bear with a tutor if I start slow be too much? As I stated earlier, our games do tend to last longer but our playgroup does have decks able to win by turn 5 (earlier is very rare). Based on my playtesting, I would say I'm able to assemble my win con by turn 5 (sometimes sooner) a decent-ish amount..lol, Though, often I can have some trouble so there will be hate bears in play, which will extend the game much longer. I think I just need to know how to pilot it, i.e. - when to grab a hate bear (appropriately), etc
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, I usually play Chainer and Mayael when playing w/ the group.
However, some of the Commanders my buddies use are:
Zedruu
Yasova Dragonclaw
Varina Linch Queen
The Mimeoplasm
Xenagos
Jodah, Archmage Eternal
Mayael
I feel like Yasova could be annoying because it steals my creatures. I would say there decks are in the $200-$500 range. Well constructed and can do some work. Though, are games are naturally a bit longer due to all of our cheaper land bases (though my one buddy was able to win turn 5 with Mayael lol..).
I think I just need to understand better when to try to assemble my combo pieces (grab a sac outlet, Academy Rector, bring back boonweaver, etc) or when to go and get a hate bear instead.. which I imagine is when I start very slow. Basically just understanding when to grab what.. so more insight into that would help
Also - Any recommended updates to the list? I'm still not sure about Apprentice Necromancer (in Cobblepots list from 2015), Deathrite Shaman, Nature's Claim. I was thinking of adding back in Mindslicer or something else.
I'm new to the forums but have been "lurking for some time haha. Happy to finally officially join the community. I need some advice on a Karador deck that I'm making as my first EDH deck.
Some background: - I've been playing Magic for a few years casually with my buddies, basically using their decks. I did eventually build a 60 card Modern deck but since then all my friends kind of moved to playing EDH, which is very fun! Recently, I played Chainer and Mayael (my friends decks) and enjoyed them quite a bit. I've been doing a lot of research and decided to construct my first EDH deck with Karador as my commander (I love his card!).
Essentially I started with the Karador reanimator route but eventually canned it for more of the Boonweaver combo route with a strong hate bear suite and tutors. I've been play testing it on Archidekt/Tapped Out, keeping track of my turns and trying to create realistic scenarios. It seems like it's pretty solid but could use some possible changes.
I've been using both the deck lists as kind of "prototypes" and trying to build something similar - though the most updated list is from 2017 - so I could use some suggestions if anything is "outdated" or if there is newer/better option to replace some my current cards. Please bare in mind that I'm not willing to shell out $$$ for the entire land base as I'm only trying to put in about $600 or so currently and we play more casual/somewhat competitive. Most of my buddies I play with I would say have anywhere from $150 - $500 in the decks they are playing, so I also want to make sure my deck isn't too powerful and doesn't simply make it not fun at all for everyone else.
So could you all please provide some feedback and things I could possibly update? I'm aware I have Hulk and Boonweaver both in my deck (I probably only need 1), but sometimes it seems useful in case one ends up in my hand or exiled. Also, please bare in mind I'm still relatively new - but am looking forward to your feedback
Those hate bears you listed are all amazing! I think I may definitely swap in Drannith Magistrate for one of my other hate bears. Any suggestions on which of my current hate bears I could possibly swap out for Drannith or some of the others you have listed? I think I have a good balance of hate bears where I would have to swap our rather than just add in and remove another card. Linvala, Keep of Silence and Aura of Silence seems really good to me. I've seen Linvala on some Karador/Boonweaver lists.
Additionally, I think I will keep Deathrite Shaman in my deck. You're right that he is quite a powerful card. As for fetch lands, I think my mana base is fine for now and quite good based on the budget I have. There's not to many straight "enter tapped" lands in there.
Enlightened Tutor, Academy Rector and Shred Memory are all pretty important staples in my deck. With Enlightened Tutor I usually grab Altar of Dementia, which is my most powerful sac outlet. Academy Rector, when sac'd, let's me quickly bring Pattern of Rebirth into play which usually let's me combo out for the win. Shred Memory was more of a recent addition but I use it for it's Transmute cost which lets me search up important cards like Animate Dead, Dance of Dead, Gaddock Teeg, Saffi Eriksdotter, etc.
For Shriekmaw, I am indeed only using him for his Evoke cost.
As far as our playstyle, I think we do like to get decently competitive...nothing to crazy. I would only be using these tutors to assemble my combo pieces. Would grabbing a hate bear with a tutor if I start slow be too much? As I stated earlier, our games do tend to last longer but our playgroup does have decks able to win by turn 5 (earlier is very rare). Based on my playtesting, I would say I'm able to assemble my win con by turn 5 (sometimes sooner) a decent-ish amount..lol, Though, often I can have some trouble so there will be hate bears in play, which will extend the game much longer. I think I just need to know how to pilot it, i.e. - when to grab a hate bear (appropriately), etc
However, some of the Commanders my buddies use are:
I feel like Yasova could be annoying because it steals my creatures. I would say there decks are in the $200-$500 range. Well constructed and can do some work. Though, are games are naturally a bit longer due to all of our cheaper land bases (though my one buddy was able to win turn 5 with Mayael lol..).
I think I just need to understand better when to try to assemble my combo pieces (grab a sac outlet, Academy Rector, bring back boonweaver, etc) or when to go and get a hate bear instead.. which I imagine is when I start very slow. Basically just understanding when to grab what.. so more insight into that would help
Also - Any recommended updates to the list? I'm still not sure about Apprentice Necromancer (in Cobblepots list from 2015), Deathrite Shaman, Nature's Claim. I was thinking of adding back in Mindslicer or something else.
I'm new to the forums but have been "lurking for some time haha. Happy to finally officially join the community. I need some advice on a Karador deck that I'm making as my first EDH deck.
My decklist: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/karador-boonweaver-hate-bears/
Some background: - I've been playing Magic for a few years casually with my buddies, basically using their decks. I did eventually build a 60 card Modern deck but since then all my friends kind of moved to playing EDH, which is very fun! Recently, I played Chainer and Mayael (my friends decks) and enjoyed them quite a bit. I've been doing a lot of research and decided to construct my first EDH deck with Karador as my commander (I love his card!).
Essentially I started with the Karador reanimator route but eventually canned it for more of the Boonweaver combo route with a strong hate bear suite and tutors. I've been play testing it on Archidekt/Tapped Out, keeping track of my turns and trying to create realistic scenarios. It seems like it's pretty solid but could use some possible changes.
What inspired me to make this deck was actually from a post on here by "Cobblepot" and a Karador + Boonweaver Combo Deck he had constructed. He explains it very in-depth which is awesome, feel free to give his post a read if you want the general understanding of what my Karador deck is trying to do. Here is a link to it: https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/621075-karador-boonweaver-combo
Cobblepot's deck build is from 2015 so I know many things have changed since then so I was able to find a more updated version someone had constructed on here: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/karador-ghost-chief-what-is-dead-may-never-die/
I've been using both the deck lists as kind of "prototypes" and trying to build something similar - though the most updated list is from 2017 - so I could use some suggestions if anything is "outdated" or if there is newer/better option to replace some my current cards. Please bare in mind that I'm not willing to shell out $$$ for the entire land base as I'm only trying to put in about $600 or so currently and we play more casual/somewhat competitive. Most of my buddies I play with I would say have anywhere from $150 - $500 in the decks they are playing, so I also want to make sure my deck isn't too powerful and doesn't simply make it not fun at all for everyone else.
So could you all please provide some feedback and things I could possibly update? I'm aware I have Hulk and Boonweaver both in my deck (I probably only need 1), but sometimes it seems useful in case one ends up in my hand or exiled. Also, please bare in mind I'm still relatively new - but am looking forward to your feedback
Thanks!!