Ter scum Assassin, triggers Scum Hunter, who chooses (but why?) Survivalist Tubba for shot
—in this case, town gravedigger should confirm Ter scum
—my vote would be for font being the hunter in this world
Ter scum BOD works with scum Assassin Tubba to fake assassin and give Tubba extra life so he can later fake survivalist; Town hunter is triggered though and chooses Tubba because Tubba is sketch
—in this case true town survivalists should claim
—in this case, town gravedigger should confirm Ter scum
Ter scum assassin triggers town hunter who chooses survivalist tubba for shot
—tubba could be scum buddy or not, but prob not
—if scum know hunter isn’t scum, the only reason they would intentionally trigger that ability was because they thought they’d get an extra kill out of the deal (both Tubba and Azrael would be the most likely targets)
Ter town assassin spends shot (to try to take out Gravedigger?) unwittingly triggers scum hunter, scum hunter chooses (but why?) tubba for the shot and works with other scum to take out Osi
—why in the world would angel Ter not protect Osi, Osi was the obvious shot
—I mean, in scum font world, she could have known that Ter would be an angel and try to bait Ter to waste her protection on her, but fonts concern about being NKed night 1 never really seemed true
Ter town assassin spends shot and triggers town hunter who chooses tubba
—in this case ter, hunter, and osi are all town (or just ter and osi if osi was hunter), meaning there’s only 1-2 other town left and that would be insane if it tubba was town because that would mean 3-4 town were involved in destructive play in an incredibly unlucky series of unfortunate events
—tubba could be town or not; I would hope he was scum here or else that would just be insane
So, looks like GD was in scum hands and likely the dismissed role. I could see scum font intentionally trying to promote the idea that GD should not reveal until D4 instead of D2 (when apparently LYLO day 2 should be expected with this set up) to hide this. Osi could be town GD but everyone is saying she’s town hunter and at this point I’m more likely to believe that hunter is town and that Osi could have been that
So this is where I claimed that there’s two night kills? Cuz, it kinda looks like I’m trying to figure out what happened last night. I will claim after Umami does.
STOP.
You will claim now. And the only thing you will claim will be:
"I was Angel protected last Night."
or
"I was not Angel protected last Night."
Fair point, even though he's already functionally answered this. I'm happy to claim whenever ftr
I'm obviously not 100% certain or I wouldn't ask GD to claim. I can see a really random scenario where town Ter didn't realize the danger of doing a random assassin shot that launched scum hunter and decided to angel protect someone other than Osi b/c salt, which then knocked out Osi and attempted to knock outTubba. But again, why would Tubba be the target? It's just the most logical answer that Ter is scum in the context of what happneed last night.
...because salt???
The only reason not to protect Osi, the obvious night kill choice, if Terr was an angel is that she was so salty about Osi pushing her that she chose someone else, but again my whole point is that seems strange/unlikely
this is what google says: To Live Your Life Online
....pffttttt
VOTE UMAMI
lol, you're joking right?
Friend, you know what LyLo is.
I honestly didn't know it stood for lynch or lose but new it referenced end of the game. Usually don't think of the end of the game on day 2 when there are only 2 deaths so far
I’m not sure it’s relevant yet. If I claim I open myself up to the scum rolekill and angel can’t save me? Also, it’s not clear in the setup, is there two separate night kills per night? The standard and the role? Or do they need to be combined? Did Azrael surviving the shot proc Hunter and that’s why theres two kills?
So this is where I claimed that there’s two night kills? Cuz, it kinda looks like I’m trying to figure out what happened last night. I will claim after Umami does.
Tubba you said "it's not clear in the setup" I pointed out that it was clear
Yeah, I believed that Azrael was lurker scum, but feeling less like this today. Believed in Osi's Az/Ter team which is part of why I didn't think I was getting momentum and, yeah, if choosing between a scum pair, always believe in lynching someone giving zero info
...yet you were still doing that bait thing?
I didn't believe that before, I believed it during/after based on that there was no momentum
It's super ambiguous in the set-up: "Role Kill: instead of their normal kill, witches may name a player and a role. If that player has this role, they are killed twice. If they are not that role, they will instead survive the kill attempt."
It's...not ambiguous at all? You were talking about the scum being able to do the NK and the Role Kill at once, right?
Sarcasm
Tubba suggested that maybe scum had two night kills which is why he was shot and that it was unclear from the set-up. I was pointing out that it's pretty darn clear
He essentially said, scum killed Osi and then used their special Role Kill on him which is why it failed. I was pointing out that that was not a possibility
It's super ambiguous in the set-up: "Role Kill: instead of their normal kill, witches may name a player and a role. If that player has this role, they are killed twice. If they are not that role, they will instead survive the kill attempt."
It's...not ambiguous at all? You were talking about the scum being able to do the NK and the Role Kill at once, right?
Sarcasm
Tubba suggested that maybe scum had two night kills which is why he was shot and that it was unclear from the set-up. I was pointing out that it's pretty darn clear
Survivalist is like the hardest role to fakeclaim, because you can't get rid of them easily. You have to like guess their role and not have any angels alive to save them. It's a bad play.
So how do you think scum gifted a BOD extra life would claim?
I kind of mapped out the Tubba read in the context of what happened last night already
I'm obviously not 100% certain or I wouldn't ask GD to claim. I can see a really random scenario where town Ter didn't realize the danger of doing a random assassin shot that launched scum hunter and decided to angel protect someone other than Osi b/c salt, which then knocked out Osi and attempted to knock outTubba. But again, why would Tubba be the target? It's just the most logical answer that Ter is scum in the context of what happneed last night. I 100% think you would hammer your partner and make a big production out of it to get future mislynch targets if you were scum
Hummm.
Fair enough, to the first point. I don't get /why/ you think Tubba being shot by hunter!Osie would make him scum, but whatever.
If you're not 100% certain, then why did you vote?
I mean, it's day 2, I'm used to voting and moving my vote around
No, I think the best reason for assassin scum Terr to waste her shot on Azrael is that she wasn't actually the assassing, she was actually the BOD and scum felt forced to paint her as assassin so they could get the extra life when she died and later claim survivalist if they needed to. His hesitation to claim made me worried it's that scenario in which case why isn't town survivalist just claiming
How would they ever fake claim survivalist down the line without being contested by the real survivalist?
role kill survivalist. Terr said she was looking for GD with Azrael, but if she was really scum and scum didn't have survivalist, that's the role they would be hunting for
come on now, you're acting like it's inconceivable that anyone would ever false claim
Ter scum Assassin, triggers Scum Hunter, who chooses (but why?) Survivalist Tubba for shot
—in this case, town gravedigger should confirm Ter scum
—my vote would be for font being the hunter in this world
Ter scum BOD works with scum Assassin Tubba to fake assassin and give Tubba extra life so he can later fake survivalist; Town hunter is triggered though and chooses Tubba because Tubba is sketch
—in this case true town survivalists should claim
—in this case, town gravedigger should confirm Ter scum
Ter scum assassin triggers town hunter who chooses survivalist tubba for shot
—tubba could be scum buddy or not, but prob not
—if scum know hunter isn’t scum, the only reason they would intentionally trigger that ability was because they thought they’d get an extra kill out of the deal (both Tubba and Azrael would be the most likely targets)
Ter town assassin spends shot (to try to take out Gravedigger?) unwittingly triggers scum hunter, scum hunter chooses (but why?) tubba for the shot and works with other scum to take out Osi
—why in the world would angel Ter not protect Osi, Osi was the obvious shot
—I mean, in scum font world, she could have known that Ter would be an angel and try to bait Ter to waste her protection on her, but fonts concern about being NKed night 1 never really seemed true
Ter town assassin spends shot and triggers town hunter who chooses tubba
—in this case ter, hunter, and osi are all town (or just ter and osi if osi was hunter), meaning there’s only 1-2 other town left and that would be insane if it tubba was town because that would mean 3-4 town were involved in destructive play in an incredibly unlucky series of unfortunate events
—tubba could be town or not; I would hope he was scum here or else that would just be insane
So, looks like GD was in scum hands and likely the dismissed role. I could see scum font intentionally trying to promote the idea that GD should not reveal until D4 instead of D2 (when apparently LYLO day 2 should be expected with this set up) to hide this. Osi could be town GD but everyone is saying she’s town hunter and at this point I’m more likely to believe that hunter is town and that Osi could have been that
Fair point, even though he's already functionally answered this. I'm happy to claim whenever ftr
The only reason not to protect Osi, the obvious night kill choice, if Terr was an angel is that she was so salty about Osi pushing her that she chose someone else, but again my whole point is that seems strange/unlikely
I honestly didn't know it stood for lynch or lose but new it referenced end of the game. Usually don't think of the end of the game on day 2 when there are only 2 deaths so far
Tubba you said "it's not clear in the setup" I pointed out that it was clear
I didn't believe that before, I believed it during/after based on that there was no momentum
lol, you're joking right?
He essentially said, scum killed Osi and then used their special Role Kill on him which is why it failed. I was pointing out that that was not a possibility
Sarcasm
Tubba suggested that maybe scum had two night kills which is why he was shot and that it was unclear from the set-up. I was pointing out that it's pretty darn clear
So how do you think scum gifted a BOD extra life would claim?
I like how you're basically saying that Osi had to be hunter when she definitely didn't especially since GD isn't confirming that Terr is scum
come on now, you're acting like it's inconceivable that anyone would ever false claim