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  • posted a message on [IKO] Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths- Ebook and Story
    I too caught the Narset hint. We know she's been there at the very least and may show up.

    Just reading the PW guide and I'm already annoyed by Vivien. Like, does she even eat meat and use animal byproducts? The most obvious reason for monster hunting in my opinion would be for food, animal byproducts and domestication and none of these seem unwarrented in a world where human survival is so grossly threatened. I originally like Vivien when we first saw her blurb but after reading stories associated with the planeswalker, I'm starting to think I'm ot as G as I once thought. I think I might even get the Human-tribal edh deck. I'm a huge human tribal fan and was previously in the midst of building a Samut-led deck with that theme.

    Other Planeswalkers I could imagine being featured on Ikoria if Narset isn't carded is Huatli (Dinosaurs)and of course Kiora.

    I like Luca from what info we have on him. His source of conflict is relatable, he cares about humans and monsters, hell his story even has a romantic subplot.
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  • posted a message on Mark Rosewater's Ikoria Teaser
    Quote from 5colors »
    In his article today Maro goes over the history of humans in magic since humans will have some sort of role on Ikoria;

    From that point on, Human tribal was on the table as something designers could use as they saw fit. There were a few cards here and there, mostly using Human tribal to add a bit of flavor. The next big push of Human tribal came when we returned to the gothic horror plane in Shadows over Innistrad and Eldritch Moon, again, primarily focused in green and white.

    Human's next big appearance mechanically was in Throne of Eldraine, but mostly for the use of "non-Human." We'd tried batching a bunch of creature types to be the faerie folk of the world, but we quickly realized that they were mostly defined by being everything but Humans, so for the first time, we tried a negative tribal theme where you were rewarded for not being something—in this case, Human. Humans have had a lot of support over the years (and even have some powerful tribal decks in larger formats), so we figured it was okay to punish them for a set.

    Which brings us to Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths. I can't go into detail just yet about what role the Humans play in the set, but much like the Innistrad blocks, the source material has a lot of Humans in it. In fact, in just about every monster movie you've ever seen, Humans are there playing a big role. Ikoria will be no different.

    So looks like this is confined that Ikoria is gonna be top-down monster movie flavored set and often humans play the roles of victims, monster makers, scientists and monster hunters.

    The man himself said Ikoria was bottom-up in terms of design but that it would have top-down elements. To be fair I think they've moved away from strictly bottom-up or top-down design in the sense that although the process may start from one of the two directions, more important is the feeling they want players to experience playing and interacting with the game.

    I do think we'll see many of the tropes you refer to though.
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  • posted a message on PSA: Ikoria and Commander 2020 may have their release pushed back even further than May 15th, 2020 due to the Coronavirus virus
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    They'll have to stay closed until June probably, that's more realistic.

    Even June seems far too optimistic. Until we have a vaccine or a comprehensive global testing system in place to detect and quarantine/treat infected people, relaxation of aggressive suppression strategies (like social distancing and closing non-essential services) is asking for additional waves of infection rate spikes. A vaccine is still 12+ months out at best, and despite advances in rapid testing I'm not confident we're returning to any sort of normalcy (as most envision it, at least) in under three months. Honestly, I'm just going to be grateful if we as a globe have this pandemic under any sort of control by the end of the calendar year.

    I really don't want to be right, obviously, but if I am, WotC is going to have to seriously reassess its release strategies for products going forward.

    I agree that we won't be anywhere near life being normal by June, but things don't have to go back to normal entirely for there not to be new releases and products. We can't be at mass peak of pandemic, but things don't have to be perfect. I mean, do you really think Apple isn't going to release any new iPhones or Macbooks over the next 12 months? Somethings might be forced to be fundamentally changed for several months, for example, reopening Disneyland or packed movie theater releases but I think a physical release of a Magic set might be okay months ahead.

    I still think June is probably a little too early, but I could see a late summer physical release for Ikoria and Commander 2020 (Early August perhaps)

    How would people play physical card games?

    In my country, we're being advised to not gather in groups of any size (they've said 5-10 with caution), remain two metres from other people at all times, and that if you don't live with them you don't visit them. A lot of countries are on complete lockdown, with the vast majority of businesses and services closed to limit exposure and big fines for being found subverting the lockdown without reason. Not to mention that coronavirus can remain on cardboard for up to 24 hours. Until something significant changes the scenario, I don't see any of that going away anytime soon.

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    In addition to hoping Wizards would help the LGS through this troubling time, I wonder what would the government do to help keep small stores like LGS alive.

    Depends on your country. Many are offering payroll assistance (anywhere from 75-90% depending on country) to smaller employers to make it easier for them to keep staff employed and paid even if not working. Some are offering one-time grants to small businesses, others have pressured the banks to either defer loan payments over the next few months or outright waive those payments entirely. I've seen some countries (or individual states/provinces/territories within) issue moratoriums on evictions. Honestly, this is going to be hard on small businesses without significant and longterm assistance from government, and given that some countries haven't even formulated a competent response to the likely loss of life, I do not have confidence that small businesses (like LGSs) will receive the robust assistance they'll need to survive either.

    You from Canada too eh?

    I just don't see us having enough information right now to discern how late or early we'll get to play with the set via tabletop. I do believe the original poster is being a little over-the-top though. Many countries right now will experience their peak before June, maybe even before May.

    I could be wrong and there may be extra precautions taken by governments to keep the rate of infection flat that would also keep stores closed but for now I think we need to take a few deep breaths. Admittedly some state-governments are doing a much better job managing a uniform response to the disease than others. Uhh
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  • posted a message on Alleged Ikoria Box Toppers, leaked from a brazilian LGS
    I think they're real Gaping
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  • posted a message on [IKO] Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths- Ebook and Story
    Okay, so we have more details!


    According to Maro, Humans and possibly Human tribal will have some import in/on Ikoria. This new information brings to mind a fact that we already knew, that despite Ikoria's design being mostly bottom-up, some of the set's design will be top-down. I predict, as many already have, that the human-centric elements of Ikoria will represent human civilizations responding to Kaiju monstrosities in a vein, not unlike that of Innistrad; working together to use magic, systems and technology to protect themselves. These elements would fit top-down tropes related to Kaiju movies and related fiction.

    Normally I'm not a big fan of artefacts but I strangely found myself actually enjoying the look of the mechs in Kaledesh. I think it would be appropriate and fine were they to appear in Ikoria so long as the flavour and the art strongly convey that these are artifacts powered by magic and possibly powering magic in return.

    Of the commander decks that I could see being more human-centric, I could see Ruthless Regiment, Arcane Maelstrom, or Timeless wisdom being somewhat human-tribal.

    Ruthless Regiment could be so because it represents Human militia and armies that use centralized social systems to protect the state and society.
    R WB or UBW

    Arcane Maelstrom might not be human-centric, but I could see it being Wizard-tribal; representing Humanity's mastery over magic in order to defend themselves.
    URW I cannot think of another three-colour combo that would better fit this.

    Timeless Wisdom could also be human- or spell-centric if it's UW but if it's GUR as many suspect I could see this not being very human-related at all.

    In the meantime, if anyone familiar with both and the source material has any ideas of what tropes, narratives and monsters we could expect, I'd greatly appreciate hearing it!
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  • posted a message on "Children of the Nameless" Free ebook removed from Mothership
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    Well, he does at least say that he's worked out an agreement with Wizards to have the ebook put back up (no specifics given as to when)... so I guess that's something, at least.

    I really liked Davriel and Children of the Nameless, so I hope that if/when he does come into the main storyline he's handled by a competent writer.

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    I hope they don't lose Sanderson, I know he prolly couldn't work with them how he'd like but it was nice knowing a talent author like him was a fun of the game and lore which is something they really need to consider for picking authors.

    The only positive I hope is Dav might be coming up in a storyline and they are trying to hype him.

    I agree with all these sentiments. Dav is my new favourite black character. He fits the colour well despite not being downright sociopathic. He kills when he determines that such actions are necessary but for the most part, his greatest ambition is to be left to himself, his studies and his hedonistic lifestyle, rather than getting trapped in a cycle of ever-increasing tyranny and ever-escalating threat response.

    Dav is trope savvy and he understands the weaknesses of his own colour (if it were understood as such). Ruthless, power-hungry tyrants can never ever feel truly happy, or ever truly secure. While he probably still struggles with some sense of insecurity (the demons in his employ are most definitely not his friends and he would almost do anything to keep his pursuers at bay) overall Dav seems to have a far better quality of life than most black-aligned characters due to the management of his own expectations.

    Creatures and characters that are colour-aligned often find points of contention or even conflict with others of the same colour and I think for many point-of-view characters in MtG, this is what causes them to be 'heroic' varients of their colour as opposed to neutral or antagonistic examples.

    On Kaladesh, Gideon often felt frustrated towards Chandra due to her impulsivity and inability to objectively see the big picture for the sake of the group or even multiverse, but he also recognized a propensity within himself to be overbearing and controlling and understood, no, accepted, how characters motivated by different values are impacted by these same propensities. Dovin Baan and Nahiri on the other hand, while perhaps well-intentioned, represent characters that are more extreme in regards to the colour-aligned archetypes and ideas they represent.
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  • posted a message on New Ikoria Image with links
    I agree that we won't see Bolas for a long time, but that does not preclude seeing Bolas-related themes like new worlds that were wrecked by him, with his lingering influence a main point of conflict.

    But you are likely correct.

    Still this would be an opportune time for Ramaz to be included in the plot. I mean, he was likely to have been present during WAR and flew the coop either when the Immortal Sun was deactivated the first time or second time after witnessing Bolas's 'death'.

    Vivien could be hunting him down. He is also Temur which would fit the world if indeed it's Wedge-themed.

    Yes. I'm probably grossly mistaken and I probably shouldn't speculate.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on New Ikoria Image with links

    Also that Spikezilla on the unnofficial cover has almost Bolas looking horns but its probably nothing. The Dragon is dealt with and Wizards wouldn't possibly decide to tell another Bolas-related story so soon after his defeat.



    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on "Children of the Nameless" Free ebook removed from Mothership
    Heya, meant to post this for a while now but I've had Account issues.

    Looks like WotC removed the "Children of the Nameless" Free ebook by Brandon Sanderson from Mothership. The now has a message saying it will be available in print soon. Apparently some of the proceeds will go to charity but Sanderson appears to be a little unhappy about it and it might influence his willingness to write similar content for Wizards.

    Here's some links
    Reddit page with Sanderson's comments (Mistborn):
    Wizards main site:
    'news' article
    If you don't know the book here's a good review. I'm a huge fan of Dav after reading it.

    Edit: I tried asking Blake Rasmussen about it yesterday and while he did awknowledge the ask, I guess it's a question for another day.
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  • posted a message on Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths delayed due to the virus
    On a humorous note, I find it kinda fitting that a set that's all about Kaiju-things is visiting the Asia-pacific first.
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  • posted a message on Gavin Verhey's Ikoria Commander Hints
    New image
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  • posted a message on [IKO] Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths- Ebook and Story

    Edit: 5Colours got this.
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  • posted a message on [IKO] Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths- Ebook and Story
    I am OrzhovPlaneswalker returned and reborn! Hear me and tremble!

    Or just head nod. Head nod works too.

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