Hello, I am looking for some help in optimizing this deck a bit more. I have play tested it a few times and I am worried about ramp and controlling board. The win-con is infect and pump up the creatures to deal damage. I am not sure if this really hits hard or can be easily dealt with. Any help would be appreciated.
Gilded Drake is like $150... Oblivion Stone is certainly interesting, I will add that to the Maybe Board. Capsize might fit in, but a counterspell would fit in just as well.
My playgroup was challenged to make mono colored decks to bring to our future table. Here is a mono blue deck that uses flicker to take advantage of effects and should have plenty of card draw. I like what Thassa, Deep-Dwelling brings to the table and she is pretty easy to get on the board in a hurry.
I am looking for help in improving the flicker effects. There is plenty of card draw, but very few of the card's effects hit other players.
Any advice to improve the deck would be great. Thanks!
Mono Green Thriss, Nantuko Primus Deck that pumps up my infect creatures to sneak through for damage. I am looking to upgrade this deck on the cheaper side if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Updated this deck to now include infect along with board wipes with the goal to keep the board clean, do damage when I can and keep everyone's hands empty as much as possible.
So we’ve been challenged to make mono color decks for our game nights and I’m looking to build a deck that has tons of board wipes and destroy everything options.
I would love a win-con or two, but that is secondary. I would like to keep the board clean as much as possible and just pick people off one by one.
So I finally got to play test this deck. This is what I learned...
1. It ramps hard and fast with Chulane, but there is a lot of aggro when you put down a bunch of creatures, no matter how little they appear.
2. I never had an issue with energy counters. There were plenty and I used Aether Ancient's board wipe a couple of times.
3. It needs maybe one or two more big creatures to pull out for late game and more ways to use the energy counters. My creatures kept getting targeted for their abilities and wiped off the board. The group seemed very unsure about my stack of energy counters and targeted pretty much anything that moved on my board.
4. It is also missing destroy effects. I was able to wipe the board of creatures effectively, but enchantments and artifacts held me back. I need to identify some cards to add those effects.
5. No one liked Chulane on the board. Every other player targeted him the second he hit the board. The card draw is fantastic, but the hate is not.
Still needs tweaking, but overall I am pretty happy with the deck.
Hi All, I am reposting this deck so it is a bit more readable. I dont know how to make the deck list pretty, but at least I split it up into categories for better viewing.
I am hoping to get some feedback on the deck. This is my first Commander deck that I have built from scratch. It depends on building up massive amounts of energy counters to trigger all the extra abilities of the creatures. I plan to flicker creatures on and off the board with Chulane, Teller or Tales and other effects to continue to build the stack of counters. There are a couple of board wipes, my favorite is Aethersquall Ancient and I am hoping this will play will in a group of 4-5.
Any and all feedback would be great! Thanks in advance!
So this is a massive deck, sitting at 72 cards. So it will need to be pared down. I havent tested it out too much, but I feel like I need some more damage to actually kill people.
So I am looking to build a pauper deck around Gray Merchant of Asphodel since it plays so well in Multiplayer.
I obviously want to keep some of the pauper staples in the deck like Crypt Rats, Gangrenous Zombies, and Basilica Screecher, but what other cards can I throw into the deck to make it more multiplayer friendly. By friendly, I mean hurts all opponents equally.
I can always splash another color, but the Cray Merchant really calls for a mono black deck for the most damage.
So I am looking to build a pauper deck around Gray Merchant of Asphodel since it plays so well in Multiplayer.
I obviously want to keep some of the pauper staples in the deck like Crypt Rats, Gangrenous Zombies, and Basilica Screecher, but what other cards can I throw into the deck to make it more multiplayer friendly. By friendly, I mean hurts all opponents equally.
I can always splash another color, but the Cray Merchant really calls for a mono black deck for the most damage.
thanks for the suggestions.
Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks!
1x Akoum Refuge
1x Arcane Lighthouse
1x Bloodfell Caves
1x Canyon Slough
1x Choked Estuary
1x Cinder Barrens
1x Command Tower
1x Creeping Tar Pit
1x Crumbling Necropolis
1x Darkwater Catacombs
1x Dimir Aqueduct
1x Dimir Guildgate
1x Dismal Backwater
1x Fetid Pools
1x Foreboding Ruins
1x Frost Marsh
1x Frostboil Snarl
1x Graven Cairns
1x Hall of Oracles
1x Highland Lake
1x Ice Tunnel
1x Izzet Guildgate
1x Jwar Isle Refuge
1x Karn's Bastion
1x Lavaclaw Reaches
1x Painted Bluffs
1x Prismari Campus
1x Rakdos Carnarium
1x Rakdos Guildgate
1x Salt Marsh
1x Shadowblood Ridge
1x Swiftwater Cliffs
1x Temple of Deceit
1x Temple of Epiphany
1x Temple of Malice
1x Act of Treason
1x Besmirch
1x Catch / Release
1x Claim the Firstborn
1x Goatnap
1x Hijack
1x Kari Zev's Expertise
1x Limits of Solidarity
1x Lose Calm
1x Malevolent Whispers
1x Mark of Mutiny
1x Portent of Betrayal
1x Shackles of Treachery
1x Stealth Mission
1x Traitorous Blood
1x Traitorous Greed
1x Traitorous Instinct
1x Unwilling Recruit
1x Wrangle
Creature (15)
1x Agent of Treachery
1x Beguiler of Wills
1x Captivating Crew
1x Conquering Manticore
1x Dragonlord Silumgar
1x Eldrazi Obligator
1x Enthralling Victor
1x Fain, the Broker
1x Gonti, Lord of Luxury
1x Grim Haruspex
1x Herald of Secret Streams
1x Hooded Assassin
1x Ruthless Knave
1x Skyclave Shadowcat
1x Sower of Temptation
1x Angrath, the Flame-Chained
Instant (15)
1x Arcane Denial
1x Counterspell
1x Countersquall
1x Deprive
1x Essence Capture
1x Essence Flux
1x First Day of Class
1x Intervene
1x Keep Safe
1x Negate
1x Professor's Warning
1x Subtle Strike
1x Tale's End
1x Turn Aside
1x Unexpected Fangs
Artifact (8)
1x Conjurer's Closet
1x Dimir Signet
1x Dragon Blood
1x Hammer of Purphoros
1x Izzet Signet
1x Obelisk of Grixis
1x Rakdos Signet
1x Sol Ring
Enchantment (6)
1x Coastal Piracy
1x Feast on the Fallen
1x Fervor
1x Grave Betrayal
1x Phyrexian Arena
1x Unspeakable Symbol
1x Beast Whisperer
1x Blight Mamba
1x Blightwidow
1x Bloom Hulk
1x Brawn
1x Caustic Caterpillar
1x Caustic Wasps
1x Chameleon Colossus
1x Coiling Woodworm
1x Core Prowler
1x Cystbearer
1x Evolution Sage
1x Giant Adephage
1x Gigantomancer
1x Glistener Elf
1x Hornet Queen
1x Hua Tuo, Honored Physician
1x Karametra's Acolyte
1x Living Hive
1x Moldgraf Monstrosity
1x Nantuko Elder
1x Nantuko Mentor
1x Phantom Nantuko
1x Phyrexian Hydra
1x Phyrexian Swarmlord
1x Plague Myr
1x Plaguemaw Beast
1x Pollenbright Druid
1x Putrefax
1x Rot Wolf
1x Rust Scarab
1x Scute Mob
1x Spinebiter
1x Stag Beetle
1x Tangle Angler
1x Viridian Betrayers
1x Viridian Corrupter
1x Vorapede
1x Yavimaya Elder
1x Cultivate
1x Explosive Vegetation
1x Green Sun's Zenith
1x Harmonize
1x Hunter's Prowess
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Life's Legacy
1x Overwhelming Stampede
1x Praetor's Counsel
1x Rampant Growth
1x Soul's Majesty
Artifact (7)
1x Caged Sun
1x Grafted Exoskeleton
1x Rhonas's Monument
1x Ring of Kalonia
1x Sol Ring
1x Swiftfoot Boots
1x Worn Powerstone
Enchantment (3)
1x Gaea's Touch
1x Lurking Predators
1x Zendikar Resurgent
Commander (1)
1x Thriss, Nantuko Primus
Land (35)
31x Forest
1x Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
1x Rogue's Passage
1x Slippery Karst
1x Tranquil Thicket
Instant (4)
1x Aspect of Hydra
1x Become Immense
1x Carrion Call
1x Hunter's Insight
1x Dragon Throne of Tarkir
1x Saber Ants
1x Symbiotic Wurm
I am looking for help in improving the flicker effects. There is plenty of card draw, but very few of the card's effects hit other players.
Any advice to improve the deck would be great. Thanks!
1x Agent of Treachery
1x Arcanis the Omnipotent
1x Archivist
1x Blighted Agent
1x Broodbirth Viper
1x Chained Throatseeker
1x Chasm Skulker
1x Clone
1x Cloudkin Seer
1x Deadeye Navigator
1x Deep-Sea Kraken
1x Diluvian Primordial
1x Drunau Corpse Trawler
1x Gadwick, the Wizened
1x Gryff Vanguard
1x Ixidron
1x Jeering Homunculus
1x Kami of the Crescent Moon
1x Keeper of Keys
1x Master of Waves
1x Merchant of Secrets
1x Mulldrifter
1x Muse Drake
1x Myr Battlesphere
1x Nezahal, Primal Tide
1x Nimble Innovator
1x Oneirophage
1x Pondering Mage
1x Solemn Simulacrum
1x Sower of Temptation
1x Sphinx of Lost Truths
1x Sphinx of Magosi
1x Tempest Caller
1x Viral Drake
1x Wing Splicer
1x Caged Sun
1x Conjurer's Closet
1x Gauntlet of Power
1x Nevinyrral's Disk
1x Panharmonicon
1x Sapphire Medallion
1x Sol Ring
1x Thought Vessel
1x Venser's Journal
1x Worn Powerstone
Enchantment (3)
1x Archmage Ascension
1x Corrupted Conscience
1x Propaganda
Sorcery (2)
1x Curse of the Swine
1x Voidwalk
Planeswalker (2)
1x Jace, Unraveler of Secrets
1x Mu Yanling
Land (38)
37x Island
1x Reliquary Tower
Commander (1)
1x Thassa, Deep-Dwelling
Instant (9)
1x Displace
1x Essence Flux
1x Evacuation
1x Ghostly Flicker
1x Illusionist's Stratagem
1x Pongify
1x Rapid Hybridization
1x Siren's Ruse
1x Teferi's Time Twist
1 Ant Queen
1 Blight Mamba
1 Blightwidow
1 Brawn
1 Beast Whisperer
1 Caustic Caterpillar
1 Caustic Wasps
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 Coiling Woodworm
1 Cystbearer
1 Deadbridge Goliath
1 Giant Adephage
1 Gigantomancer
1 Glistener Elf
1 Hornet Nest
1 Hornet Queen
1 Hua Tuo, Honored Physician
1 Karametra's Acolyte
1 Living Hive
1 Moldgraf Monstrosity
1 Mul Daya Channelers
1 Nantuko Disciple
1 Nantuko Elder
1 Nantuko Mentor
1 Phantom Nantuko
1 Phyrexian Hydra
1 Phyrexian Swarmlord
1 Putrefax
1 Rot Wolf
1 Rust Scarab
1 Saber Ants
1 Scute Mob
1 Spinebiter
1 Stag Beetle
1 Symbiotic Wurm
1 Tangle Angler
1 Viridian Betrayers
1 Viridian Corrupter
1 Vorapede
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Cultivate
1 Explosive Vegetation
1 Harmonize
1 Hunter's Prowess
1 Kodama's Reach
1 Life's Legacy
1 Overwhelming Stampede
1 Praetor's Counsel
1 Rampant Growth
1 Soul's Majesty
Land
31 Forest
1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
1 Rogue's Passage
1 Slippery Karst
1 Tranquil Thicket
Enchantment
1 Gaea's Touch
1 Primal Rage
1 Zendikar Resurgent
1 Lurking Predators
Commander
1 Thriss, Nantuko Primus
Artifact
1 Dragon Throne of Tarkir
1 Grafted Exoskeleton
1 Rhonas's Monument
1 Ring of Kalonia
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Sol Ring
1 Caged Sun
1 Aspect of Hydra
1 Become Immense
1 Hunter's Insight
Any suggestions?
1x Avatar of Woe
1x Basilica Screecher
1x Burglar Rat
1x Crypt Rats
1x Fell Specter
1x Gonti, Lord of Luxury
1x Gray Merchant of Asphodel
1x Guiltfeeder
1x Heartstabber Mosquito
1x Hypnotic Specter
1x Ichor Rats
1x King's Assassin
1x Kokusho, the Evening Star
1x Liliana's Specter
1x Murderous Rider
1x Nekrataal
1x Plague Stinger
1x Ravenous Chupacabra
1x Royal Assassin
1x Sangromancer
1x Sidisi, Undead Vizier
1x Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
1x Thorn of the Black Rose
1x Torgaar, Famine Incarnate
1x Visara the Dreadful
1x Whispering Specter
1x Ambition's Cost
1x Beseech the Queen
1x Bontu's Last Reckoning
1x Chainer's Edict
1x Damnation
1x Dark Petition
1x Deadly Tempest
1x Death Cloud
1x Diabolic Tutor
1x Exsanguinate
1x Increasing Ambition
1x Mutilate
1x Night's Whisper
1x Pox
1x Read the Bones
1x Sign in Blood
1x Torment of Hailfire
Land (35)
1x Barren Moor
1x Bojuka Bog
1x Cabal Stronghold
1x Crypt of Agadeem
1x Everglades
1x Myriad Landscape
28x Swamp
1x Temple of the False God
1x Liliana Vess
1x Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
Commander (1)
1x Erebos, God of the Dead
Instant (10)
1x Assassin's Blade
1x Culling the Weak
1x Dark Ritual
1x Disembowel
1x Drag to the Underworld
1x Go for the Throat
1x Heartless Act
1x Reckless Spite
1x Tendrils of Corruption
1x Terror
Artifact (5)
1x Geth's Grimoire
1x Nevinyrral's Disk
1x Perilous Vault
1x Sol Ring
1x Thran Dynamo
Enchantment (4)
1x Grave Betrayal
1x Greed
1x Phyrexian Arena
1x Phyrexian Reclamation
I would love a win-con or two, but that is secondary. I would like to keep the board clean as much as possible and just pick people off one by one.
Where should I start?
1. It ramps hard and fast with Chulane, but there is a lot of aggro when you put down a bunch of creatures, no matter how little they appear.
2. I never had an issue with energy counters. There were plenty and I used Aether Ancient's board wipe a couple of times.
3. It needs maybe one or two more big creatures to pull out for late game and more ways to use the energy counters. My creatures kept getting targeted for their abilities and wiped off the board. The group seemed very unsure about my stack of energy counters and targeted pretty much anything that moved on my board.
4. It is also missing destroy effects. I was able to wipe the board of creatures effectively, but enchantments and artifacts held me back. I need to identify some cards to add those effects.
5. No one liked Chulane on the board. Every other player targeted him the second he hit the board. The card draw is fantastic, but the hate is not.
Still needs tweaking, but overall I am pretty happy with the deck.
I am hoping to get some feedback on the deck. This is my first Commander deck that I have built from scratch. It depends on building up massive amounts of energy counters to trigger all the extra abilities of the creatures. I plan to flicker creatures on and off the board with Chulane, Teller or Tales and other effects to continue to build the stack of counters. There are a couple of board wipes, my favorite is Aethersquall Ancient and I am hoping this will play will in a group of 4-5.
Any and all feedback would be great! Thanks in advance!
1x Acidic Slime
1x Aether Herder
1x Aether Inspector
1x Aether Swooper
1x Aether Theorist
1x Aethersquall Ancient
1x Aetherstorm Roc
1x Aethertide Whale
1x Aetherwind Basker
1x Architect of the Untamed
1x Bristling Hydra
1x Consul's Shieldguard
1x Deadeye Navigator
1x Eddytrail Hawk
1x Empyreal Voyager
1x Fierce Empath
1x Greenbelt Rampager
1x Hightide Hermit
1x Janjeet Sentry
1x Minister of Inquiries
1x Multiform Wonder
1x Peema Aether-Seer
1x Riparian Tiger
1x Rogue Refiner
1x Roon of the Hidden Realm
1x Sage of Shaila's Claim
1x Servant of the Conduit
1x Shielded Aether Thief
1x Shipwreck Moray
1x Solemn Simulacrum
1x Soulherder
1x Thassa, Deep-Dwelling
1x Thriving Ibex
1x Thriving Rhino
1x Thriving Turtle
1x Woodland Bellower
1x Adarkar Wastes
1x Aether Hub
1x Bant Panorama
1x Evolving Wilds
1x Flood Plain
8x Forest
1x Grasslands
1x Hallowed Fountain
8x Island
1x Krosan Verge
1x Myriad Landscape
8x Plains
1x Temple Garden
1x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Thawing Glaciers
Sorcery (8)
1x Attune with Aether
1x Confiscation Coup
1x Cultivate
1x Farseek
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Rampant Growth
1x Rite of Replication
1x Supreme Verdict
Enchantment (3)
1x Aura Shards
1x Consulate Surveillance
1x Era of Innovation
1x Chulane, Teller of Tales
Artifact (10)
1x Aethersphere Harvester
1x Aetherworks Marvel
1x Conjurer's Closet
1x Deadlock Trap
1x Decoction Module
1x Fabrication Module
1x Gonti's Aether Heart
1x Panharmonicon
1x Sol Ring
1x Swiftfoot Boots
Instant (6)
1x Eerie Interlude
1x Ghostway
1x Glimmer of Genius
1x Path to Exile
1x Return to Nature
1x Swords to Plowshares
Thanks for your help! Deck cost- $22 perfect!
16 Swamp
4 Basilica Screecher
4 Gray Merchant of Asphodel
4 Crypt Rats
3 Liliana's Specter
3 Phyrexian Rager
3 Burglar Rat
3 Thorn of the Black Rose
4 Undying Evil
4 Unearth
4 Pestilence
4 Sign in Blood
4 Night's Whisper
2 Defile
2 Chainer's Edict
2 Tendrils of Corruption
2 Moan of the Unhallowed
So this is a massive deck, sitting at 72 cards. So it will need to be pared down. I havent tested it out too much, but I feel like I need some more damage to actually kill people.
Any thoughts?
I obviously want to keep some of the pauper staples in the deck like Crypt Rats, Gangrenous Zombies, and Basilica Screecher, but what other cards can I throw into the deck to make it more multiplayer friendly. By friendly, I mean hurts all opponents equally.
I can always splash another color, but the Cray Merchant really calls for a mono black deck for the most damage.
Cards I am considering:
Deathcult Rogue
Fear
Rakdos Shred-Freak
Liliana's Specter
Pestilence
Blind Zealot
Is this a good start or am I way off in my thinking?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I obviously want to keep some of the pauper staples in the deck like Crypt Rats, Gangrenous Zombies, and Basilica Screecher, but what other cards can I throw into the deck to make it more multiplayer friendly. By friendly, I mean hurts all opponents equally.
I can always splash another color, but the Cray Merchant really calls for a mono black deck for the most damage.
Cards I am considering:
Deathcult Rogue
Fear
Rakdos Shred-Freak
Liliana's Specter
Pestilence
Blind Zealot
Is this a good start or am I way off in my thinking?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.