Eclipse [active/day/one-shot/any season/+100]: Night descends and the Day ends immediately.
That's about 5 times as powerful as a double voting scum, considering it could be used as a swing of two deaths, saving a scum from being lynched and then getting an effectively instant nightkill.
You're the closest to winning the black market pseudo Az points. So why didn't he fire it once he was caught, eh? Eh?
I think that speaks well of you and kpaca, and Brin to a degree. I'd forgotten to factor in WoD's NK when I first evaluated that, but I still think Void keeping it in his pants carries enough weight for y'all not to be ignored.
Well, yeah. After this game I'm going to yell at zindabad no matter what, just for that ability (and for what must be really screwy randomization rules - e.g. if Alpha and Asian could both be scum, the game would have exploded, so there must be some limitations, but he didn't explicate those limitations, which makes all inquisitions into roles a crapshoot because we're forced to game the mod, which is absurd).
The way I see it, the most likely scum team at this point is Wessel and DJ, although their interactions don't support that, which bothers me. I could also see a Wessel/Pale team that have an ability, like a daykill, sandbagged and hope they can turn this gambit into a win tomorrow.
I definitely can't see a Pale/DJ team, since Pale must know he's only gotten by this far without serious examination because there are so many more overtly-scummy people, and he's not going to make it to the final 2 without getting the once-over.
I'm sorry, the what now? Final 2 what, sir.
Bottom line is I think Wessel is the best lynch candidate and won't move my vote to DJ unless someone profers a damn good reason to do him first.
I've provided a damn good reason. But if you think I'm scum pulling a gambit, Xyre, you should factor in that if you don't hit mafia today, I've already won the game, right?
@Pale Mage: It sure was a lucky shot with the roleblock, considering you only have one season in which you can do anything.[/suspicious] :rolleyes
Dude, I only had a pool of five to choose from. Even if I fired blind into that group I probably had a ten percent chance to stop the NK, possibly as high as twenty percent. But I didn't fire randomly, and I picked the right guy.
The Pool (aka folks who shipped IB to his reward yesterday): Xyre, Alpha, Brin, AE, DJC.
I am Hmokaya, the Golden Blooms, Elemental of Flowers.
I win when the scum are destroyed.
My abilities are quite difficult to explain, but I'll do my best to do so. It's too long to explain all the details (if someone wants me to do so, ask), so I'll just explain the effects.
I have one active ability, called 'Nature's Bounty', which is basically a watcher.
- During any uneven (first, third, fifth, etc) spring and autumn, the identity of anyone targeting my target won't be revealed.
- During any uneven summer, the targeter's identity will be revealed.
- During any winter, I can target someone, but my ability won't work.
- During any even (second, fourth, sixth, etc) spring and autumn, the identity of anyone targeting my target will be revealed.
- During any even summer, the identity of anyone targeting my target will be revealed, and my target is protected from the first kill made against him/her.
N1 I targeted vezokpiraka. No-one targeted him that night.
N2 I targeted AlphaInsidious. No-one targeted him that night.
N3 I targeted infectiousbaloth. The ability was delayed, and fizzled because he was lynched D4.
N4 I targeted AlphaInsidious. No-one targeted him that night.
Can you explain the bold?
Why did you choose Vezok Night One? Why IB on Night Three?
While we're on topic, have you listed your other night actions yet this game? I'd like to see who else you've targeted, and when you did.
--->DJ
Asked and answered earlier. You are so not reading the thread at this point.
I see no one has come forward with a concrete alternate explanation for everyone waking up this morning. I'm shocked.
Also, I'm pressed for time. If we're going to do a mass claim, today is the best time to do it if we care about having perfect information for the remainder of the game. Regardless, I'm claiming in full at this time:
I be Radamel, Herald of Frost, Elemental of Cold! (*Theme music*)
I'm an owl. I like to picture myself as the owl from the old Tootsie Pop commercials, but feel free to use your own imagination.
I have two abilities. Both are WINTER and active and night.
Sudden Chill (+3 +5 +7) is the roleblock.
Winter's Might (+0): Freezes the Aeon Clock until the next Night (or until I croak if that happens first), so it can't move forward or backwards. This ability is a one-shot.
Last Night it was Winter, I targeted DJ Caughtscum. Let's lynch him. The end.
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There's some other stuff since I last posted I'll address later, but in the mean time I've got ten (count 'em TEN) black market pseudo-Azrael points (cheap knockoffs) for anyone who can tell me why I said Brinatoo, kpaca, and AlphaInsidious are all probably town. Hint: It ain't behavior (or rather, it's aside from behavior).
It doesn't matter whether Cyan knew the true alignment of Artifice. The issue is one of intent. Cyan didn't care what Artifice's alignment was or whether lynching him would be helpful to the town. The primary motivation towards the lynch was to "punish" Artifice for his behavior. (If I'm wrong, please correct me Cyan.) Obviously others also felt similarly and Cyan influenced still others to agree with him. I am not pursuing those people because they have not stated their intent as Cyan has. They might have just been doing what they thought was best for the town.
No action is automatically against your win condition in a game as complex as mafia. It's when a player knowingly steps outside of the game and makes a judgment call based on factors that do not relate to their team winning that causes the actions to be hurtful to their team.
It would also be a different matter if Cyan were remorseful or intended to play the game in the future. But that is simply not the case. He has continued to openly state that he will act in the interest of his own personal agenda before the best interest of his team or win condition in the future. As long as that behavior persists, Cyan is a danger to the stability of any game he is in.
As for your other comment: I'm not trying to drag Cyan through the mud. He put himself there. I'm trying to get you to open your eyes and notice the mud stains all over him. He is loud and obnoxious at times and brute forces to the point that it's painful to be his ally. All of these things are acceptable behaviors though and I have no qualms against them. (Other than mild annoyance.) It's when he intentionally degrades the game for out of game reasons that he crosses the line and lands in the mud-hole.
Cyan has a history of looking out for not only the game he is playing, but the health of the game. He is correct that it is sometimes appropriate to lynch a guy that might not be scum because his behavior is so egregious or confusing you just need him gone.
Lol, sorry to burst your bubble but you might be the paranoid cop. Because my results are guaranteed sane in my pm.
I have a condition that needs to be met in order for a player's alignment to be revealed to me. I did not target him as this is a random copping passive ability. The day needs to start as "Spring." The day started as spring
Archmage Eternal is town.
To save time, AE. This is the post where Brin claims his ability.
Its simple. If Brinatoo was able to target then Kpaca would have been able to target also. So 1. We can confirm Brinatoo is telling the truth. And 2. Kpaca would have targeted me, confirming I'm town.
I think you need to do some re-reading. Also, shouldn't you know what kpaca could and could not have done? Beyond that, I don't want to get bogged down in the same standoff between you two.
YOU'LL NEVER GET A MAN WITH THAT ATTITUDE YOUNG LADY
Kpaca's suspension is up tomorrow, but I don't see what you're waiting for other than being stubborn. Kpain gave enough information for you to spot any discrepencies.
I don't see what's to be gained by watching you and kpaca go "no you" for several pages again.
He didn't claim my flavor name. I saw the claim just fine, but I wasn't available when someone opened up on him about 'equinox' versus 'solstice'. He was dead before I could respond to that.
If that's your smoking gun, nice job. Pbpa later to prove it.
--->DJ
The smoking gun is the roleblock and no need for an undertaker.
Nice attitude, PM. You went from 0-to-obnoxious in about 3 seconds flat today.
Feel free to report me if you feel I've been out of line. Otherwise, suck it up.
When i'm home later, i'll give you the full timeline pbpa, but i'm telling you - I wasn't around for that convo.
It's your nickel. We've got the time. Unless you live in some parallel dimension where iLord et al. posts don't show up for like twenty four hours after everyone else can read them I don't know what your point could possibly be other than "I didn't read them" when that last post I quoted demonstrates you were reading something.
You're right about the simplest explanation. You rb-ed a townie.
I thought I was scum pulling a gambit?
If you are town (or even if you're scum and didn't prosecute the attempted kill) then that will get sorted fairly quickly.
There's nothing in iLord's early game that convinces me he's worth the lynch here. I see his tone changed a bit later in the game once he came under fire, which is a null tell. I see several people pointing to several different reasons, none of which seem to match up to each other. I see dubius-at-best evidence that does nothing other than paint him combatitive. If that was enough to get a lynch going, Iso and Arti should both be long gone by now.
I'm uncomfortable with his inability to explain what his ability does, but that's about it, and that's not enough to lynch him.
I'm also pretty sure that some of you on this wagon were busy telling me off when I tried to point out the discrepancy in Void's flavor versus his claim when that thing went down. Funny how things change like that...
--->DJ
Here's your post prior to iLord's lynch, DJ. Looks like you saw at least part of his claim. You even commented on flavor discrepancy without connecting it to your own role.
When I said that I 'missed' the iLord flavor discussion, I mean that I literally missed it. He died before I could see or comment. If you look back, as soon as the 'error' eas revealed the next day by Our mod, I immediately posted that I was PM-ing him for some answers around that.
Nice to know you're reading carefully enough to miss iLord's entire claim and the rather large discussion of it, including his flavor. You posted after all of that, by the way. Who's not paying attention again?
You "missed" it when it was relevant. That's the gist, duder. Day late and a dollar short is nothing more than CYA.
If you roleblocked me, you got nothing because I did nothing last night. Did you get any flavor? I have no night abilities. You're either scum, or you're jumping to some serious conclusions here.
I was successful in my roleblock against you. I have no assurances that you attempted to do anything, but I have no breathing impaired this morning, and I do know my 'block will stop an NK. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
Nice gambit... You know damn well I claimed double-voter yesterday. You're clearing a path to Lylo here, plain and simple.
If you actually read my rebuttal, it was a direct explanation of my claim. Which you're asking for again. You're not paying attention, and your tone is manic all of a sudden.
No freaking way. BS gambit is BS. You have no case, and you never did.
--->DJ
Actually, sir, you claimed double voter in Autumn yesterday, which is not a complete claim. The fact is I don't buy for a minute you missed the relevance of iLord's claim compared to your own. Twas a major topic of conversation, and all you came in with before his lynch was a weak vote against it. Hence, I blocked you last night. And lo and behold we have no corpses this morning.
Occam's Razor ftw.
Nice try, though. Sucks to be caught, but you are.
As for clearing a path to LyLo...if I were scum that gambit wouldn't get me very far. You'd by lynched, then I would be in very short order. Assuming any two of kpaca, brinatoo, and Alpha are town (and all three probably are) that would leave my team with no real outs.
Well, I guess brin might not be a factor depending on how far the clock gets moved during Night, but still....risk reward there would just be poor.
You're the closest to winning the black market pseudo Az points. So why didn't he fire it once he was caught, eh? Eh?
I think that speaks well of you and kpaca, and Brin to a degree. I'd forgotten to factor in WoD's NK when I first evaluated that, but I still think Void keeping it in his pants carries enough weight for y'all not to be ignored.
I'm sorry, the what now? Final 2 what, sir.
I've provided a damn good reason. But if you think I'm scum pulling a gambit, Xyre, you should factor in that if you don't hit mafia today, I've already won the game, right?
Anywho, see below. I still want DJC first.
The last person who said he was done responding to me was DRey.
Dude, I only had a pool of five to choose from. Even if I fired blind into that group I probably had a ten percent chance to stop the NK, possibly as high as twenty percent. But I didn't fire randomly, and I picked the right guy.
The Pool (aka folks who shipped IB to his reward yesterday): Xyre, Alpha, Brin, AE, DJC.
Can you explain the bold?
Why did you choose Vezok Night One? Why IB on Night Three?
Asked and answered earlier. You are so not reading the thread at this point.
I see no one has come forward with a concrete alternate explanation for everyone waking up this morning. I'm shocked.
Also, I'm pressed for time. If we're going to do a mass claim, today is the best time to do it if we care about having perfect information for the remainder of the game. Regardless, I'm claiming in full at this time:
I be Radamel, Herald of Frost, Elemental of Cold! (*Theme music*)
I'm an owl. I like to picture myself as the owl from the old Tootsie Pop commercials, but feel free to use your own imagination.
I have two abilities. Both are WINTER and active and night.
Sudden Chill (+3 +5 +7) is the roleblock.
Winter's Might (+0): Freezes the Aeon Clock until the next Night (or until I croak if that happens first), so it can't move forward or backwards. This ability is a one-shot.
Last Night it was Winter, I targeted DJ Caughtscum. Let's lynch him. The end.
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There's some other stuff since I last posted I'll address later, but in the mean time I've got ten (count 'em TEN) black market pseudo-Azrael points (cheap knockoffs) for anyone who can tell me why I said Brinatoo, kpaca, and AlphaInsidious are all probably town. Hint: It ain't behavior (or rather, it's aside from behavior).
Cyan has a history of looking out for not only the game he is playing, but the health of the game. He is correct that it is sometimes appropriate to lynch a guy that might not be scum because his behavior is so egregious or confusing you just need him gone.
Art needed killin'.
To save time, AE. This is the post where Brin claims his ability.
Nope. Winter only.
I think you need to do some re-reading. Also, shouldn't you know what kpaca could and could not have done? Beyond that, I don't want to get bogged down in the same standoff between you two.
Nothing else to say in regards to DJ, you two?
YOU'LL NEVER GET A MAN WITH THAT ATTITUDE YOUNG LADY
Kpaca's suspension is up tomorrow, but I don't see what you're waiting for other than being stubborn. Kpain gave enough information for you to spot any discrepencies.
I don't see what's to be gained by watching you and kpaca go "no you" for several pages again.
Dude, not this again. Either you have information or you don't. kpaca's claim was clear enough, and he's on suspension still (I think).
Put out or walk home!
I do so love admissions of guilt.
I look forward to destroying your PBPA.
The smoking gun is the roleblock and no need for an undertaker.
Feel free to report me if you feel I've been out of line. Otherwise, suck it up.
It's your nickel. We've got the time. Unless you live in some parallel dimension where iLord et al. posts don't show up for like twenty four hours after everyone else can read them I don't know what your point could possibly be other than "I didn't read them" when that last post I quoted demonstrates you were reading something.
I thought I was scum pulling a gambit?
If you are town (or even if you're scum and didn't prosecute the attempted kill) then that will get sorted fairly quickly.
Here's your post prior to iLord's lynch, DJ. Looks like you saw at least part of his claim. You even commented on flavor discrepancy without connecting it to your own role.
Just vote yourself and get it over with.
Oooh...another adjective!
Nice to know you're reading carefully enough to miss iLord's entire claim and the rather large discussion of it, including his flavor. You posted after all of that, by the way. Who's not paying attention again?
You "missed" it when it was relevant. That's the gist, duder. Day late and a dollar short is nothing more than CYA.
I was successful in my roleblock against you. I have no assurances that you attempted to do anything, but I have no breathing impaired this morning, and I do know my 'block will stop an NK. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
Actually, sir, you claimed double voter in Autumn yesterday, which is not a complete claim. The fact is I don't buy for a minute you missed the relevance of iLord's claim compared to your own. Twas a major topic of conversation, and all you came in with before his lynch was a weak vote against it. Hence, I blocked you last night. And lo and behold we have no corpses this morning.
Occam's Razor ftw.
Nice try, though. Sucks to be caught, but you are.
As for clearing a path to LyLo...if I were scum that gambit wouldn't get me very far. You'd by lynched, then I would be in very short order. Assuming any two of kpaca, brinatoo, and Alpha are town (and all three probably are) that would leave my team with no real outs.
Well, I guess brin might not be a factor depending on how far the clock gets moved during Night, but still....risk reward there would just be poor.
I found your reply lacking.
Claim and die, in that order.