Uggh after doing that I dislike Vezok's posts even more. I think the Shadow susp wasn't handled enough by others to be excluded from potential bussing.
I am still screeching. I wish I were dead so I could spam obs with how blown my brain is.
Can you highlight some of vezok's posts that dissatisfy you?
Caveat I guess: #380 is unclear whether or not it would be scum theatre. I'm leaning towards it not now that I look at it again, though.
Vezok's voting Day 1 and Day 2 feels like swinging at windmills a lot, and it's not clear that it's not an act. Something like 1/4 1/3 of Vezok's posts have a vote.
Vezok is generally low energy and waffles a lot.
#605 does not look at all suspicious of Shadow's claim, and the vote of Rhand? Feels like scum FPS, especially if Rhandslot flips scum.
I also didn't like their post toDay, especially after the Last flip. That did not feel like Town reevaluating the game after a surprise.
Here's a semi-PBPA sorting their posts. Most of these votes aren't exactly good ones in context.
Key:
Probably Right : Probably Wrong (Assuming Last/Chris/Cant) | Has Vote : Just Speech
#64 (Shadow) - 1:0|1:0
#74 (Susp Vaimes) - 1:0|1:1
#145 (Unvote) - 2:0|2:1
#189 (KK) - 2:1|3:1
#202 (Defense from Tom) - 2:1|3:2
#271 (Low-content Quote Wall) - 2:1|3:3
#380 (Shadow) - 3:1|4:3
#418 (Readslist, with scummy slots other than Shadow at null) - 3:1|4:4
#440 (KK) - 3:2|5:4
#445 (Susp Shadow and KK) - 3:2|5:5
#605 (Rhand) - 4:2|6:5 Meanwhile, she townreads Last.
#611 (Reminding KK of votal) - 4:2|6:6
#666 (Defending Last's claim) - 4:2|6:7
#698 (Tom) - 4:3|7:7
#746 (Susp KK) - 4:3|7:8
#755 (KK) - 4:4|8:8
#762 (Pushing KK) - 4:4|8:9
#861 (Teambuilding KK+Megs w/ KCC+Rhand as town) - 4:4|8:10
#933 (Pushing KK, waffling on Tom/Silver/Megs) - 4:4|8:11
#1011 (Doubling down KK + Maybe Megs) - 4:4|8:12
#1094 (Meg/Cantrip 1 Scum, waffle on Emiko) - 4:4|8:13
#1095 (Cantrip) - 5:4|9:13
#1112 (Emiko's Town) - 5:4|9:14
#1117 (Analysis of Vaimes replacement consideration) - 5:4|9:15
#1163 (Cantrip+KCC and Cantrip+Rhand not Scum, KJ & KCC scum, Meg/Cantrip 1 Scum, Cantrip scum) - 5:4|9:16
#1217 (Megs) - 5:5|10:16
#1259 (Defending Last while dumping on him) - 5:5|10:17
#1261 (Doubting KCC claim) - 5:5|10:18
#1270 (Doubting KCC claim) - 5:5|10:19
#1273 (Doubting KCC claim) - 5:5|10:20
#1281 (Doubting KCC claim) - 5:5|10:20
#1285 (Doubting KCC claim) - 5:5|10:20
#1330 (V/LA) - 000000
#1417 (KCC) - 5:6|10:21
#1431 (Unvote) - 6:6|11:21
#1487 (KCC) - 6:7|12:21
#1534 (LW-scum means same as all day, LW-town means KCC-scum, reread KJ+me) - 6:7|12:22
#1535 (LW is Town) - 6:7|12:23
#1572 (Sir Chris) - 7:7|13:23
Yeah, after rereading Vezok, in particular recent posts, and knowing that their earlier posts were independently scummy, Vezok probably has to get lynched before Cantrip, probably. We have the mislynch space though, so we can go one way or the other.
Vezok was independently scummy early game, and I'm not totally convinced that she's gotten much better throughout the game... I'mma go ISO there, but I think this game is just in cleanup mode now.
EBWODP: significantly.
But with Vezok as scum in place of Cantrip, those number don't change.
Assuming the scumteam is Last + Sir Chris + Cantripmancer, then the numbers are:
#1330 (V/LA) - 000000
#1417 (KCC) - 5:6|11:21
#1431 (Unvote) - 6:6|12:21
#1487 (KCC) - 6:7|13:21
#1534 (LW-scum means same as all day, LW-town means KCC-scum, reread KJ+me) - 6:7|13:22
#1535 (LW is Town) - 6:7|13:23
#1572 (Sir Chris) - 7:7|14:23
instead.
Hammering some time in the next 24 hours, I think.
Caveat I guess: #380 is unclear whether or not it would be scum theatre. I'm leaning towards it not now that I look at it again, though.
Vezok's voting Day 1 and Day 2 feels like swinging at windmills a lot, and it's not clear that it's not an act. Something like
1/41/3 of Vezok's posts have a vote.Vezok is generally low energy and waffles a lot.
#605 does not look at all suspicious of Shadow's claim, and the vote of Rhand? Feels like scum FPS, especially if Rhandslot flips scum.
I also didn't like their post toDay, especially after the Last flip. That did not feel like Town reevaluating the game after a surprise.
Here's a semi-PBPA sorting their posts. Most of these votes aren't exactly good ones in context.
Key:
#64 (Shadow) - 1:0|1:0
#74 (Susp Vaimes) - 1:0|1:1
#145 (Unvote) - 2:0|2:1
#189 (KK) - 2:1|3:1
#202 (Defense from Tom) - 2:1|3:2
#271 (Low-content Quote Wall) - 2:1|3:3
#380 (Shadow) - 3:1|4:3
#418 (Readslist, with scummy slots other than Shadow at null) - 3:1|4:4
#440 (KK) - 3:2|5:4
#445 (Susp Shadow and KK) - 3:2|5:5
#605 (Rhand) - 4:2|6:5 Meanwhile, she townreads Last.
#611 (Reminding KK of votal) - 4:2|6:6
#666 (Defending Last's claim) - 4:2|6:7
#698 (Tom) - 4:3|7:7
#746 (Susp KK) - 4:3|7:8
#755 (KK) - 4:4|8:8
#762 (Pushing KK) - 4:4|8:9
#861 (Teambuilding KK+Megs w/ KCC+Rhand as town) - 4:4|8:10
#933 (Pushing KK, waffling on Tom/Silver/Megs) - 4:4|8:11
#1011 (Doubling down KK + Maybe Megs) - 4:4|8:12
#1094 (Meg/Cantrip 1 Scum, waffle on Emiko) - 4:4|8:13
#1095 (Cantrip) - 5:4|9:13
#1112 (Emiko's Town) - 5:4|9:14
#1117 (Analysis of Vaimes replacement consideration) - 5:4|9:15
#1163 (Cantrip+KCC and Cantrip+Rhand not Scum, KJ & KCC scum, Meg/Cantrip 1 Scum, Cantrip scum) - 5:4|9:16
#1217 (Megs) - 5:5|10:16
#1259 (Defending Last while dumping on him) - 5:5|10:17
#1261 (Doubting KCC claim) - 5:5|10:18
#1270 (Doubting KCC claim) - 5:5|10:19
#1273 (Doubting KCC claim) - 5:5|10:20
#1281 (Doubting KCC claim) - 5:5|10:20
#1285 (Doubting KCC claim) - 5:5|10:20
#1330 (V/LA) - 000000
#1417 (KCC) - 5:6|10:21
#1431 (Unvote) - 6:6|11:21
#1487 (KCC) - 6:7|12:21
#1534 (LW-scum means same as all day, LW-town means KCC-scum, reread KJ+me) - 6:7|12:22
#1535 (LW is Town) - 6:7|12:23
#1572 (Sir Chris) - 7:7|13:23
I figured it would make the game more enjoyable, which it did.
I suppose that game was more memorable for me than for anyone else being my first game on the site.
Sir Chris lynch into one of Vezok/Cantrip, then the other.